Internalized misogyny

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think of things like:

-women who says they are guys girls, or that the prefer being friends with guys, or that they prefer having male bosses
- women who in the office turn their attention to any man in the room over other women
- women who see women as competition

Only the third example has even a whiff of internalized mysogyny. The fact that you think that women who are friends with men is the problem means that you do probably have internalized mysogyny yourself. You hate women and clearly compete with them.

Work in your reading comprehension. I didn’t say women who are friends with men, I say women who say they prefer being friends with men, who describe themselves as guys girls.

I think everyone works in their reading comprehension

I don’t really understand this concept either except that it is another way girls/women can pick at each other online.

I have a hard time with the never can be friends with someone of the opposite sex, but I have learned to operate within the confines of American standards of men and women can’t be friends. I do miss some of my guy friends. I really, really didn’t want them to pick me as their girlfriends tho!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m the poster that mentioned it. So, I’m assuming you want examples of where women have internalized misogynistic ideas. Examples would be:

Jumping in at work to make the coffee, plan the parties, take the meeting notes.
Writing all the thank you notes after the wedding
Jumping in to manage the relationship with their in laws
Feeling bad when you make more money than your husband
Judging women for how they dress
When you hear about a sexual assault, immediately wondering why the woman was there and if she was drunk

I could go on and on.

I don't necessarily agree the few examples are misongyny but outdated gender roles

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m the poster that mentioned it. So, I’m assuming you want examples of where women have internalized misogynistic ideas. Examples would be:

Jumping in at work to make the coffee, plan the parties, take the meeting notes.
Writing all the thank you notes after the wedding
Jumping in to manage the relationship with their in laws
Feeling bad when you make more money than your husband
Judging women for how they dress
When you hear about a sexual assault, immediately wondering why the woman was there and if she was drunk

I could go on and on.

I don't necessarily agree the few examples are misongyny but outdated gender roles

Social justice scholarship is like running an ad campaign. Give a scary new name to something old and sell the cure. Like bad breath becoming "halitosis!"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Women, you’re not victims of anything. Life will be so much easier if you stop acting like everyone is against you and you’re a victim.

That is a ridiculous assertion. There are victims in the world. Male and Female. Doesn't mean people are born that way, but it does happen in the world. Have you read a newspaper about Putin and Ukraine? Example of a man going totally overboard with control. It happens are micro levels too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m the poster that mentioned it. So, I’m assuming you want examples of where women have internalized misogynistic ideas. Examples would be:

Jumping in at work to make the coffee, plan the parties, take the meeting notes.
Writing all the thank you notes after the wedding
Jumping in to manage the relationship with their in laws
Feeling bad when you make more money than your husband
Judging women for how they dress
When you hear about a sexual assault, immediately wondering why the woman was there and if she was drunk

I could go on and on.

I don't necessarily agree the few examples are misongyny but outdated gender roles

This one is an example of internalized misogyny. The others are gender roles or competition to keep women's standards high. But the one below is specifically looking for blame in the female rather than the male.
When you hear about a sexual assault, immediately wondering why the woman was there and if she was drunk

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think of things like:

-women who says they are guys girls, or that the prefer being friends with guys, or that they prefer having male bosses
- women who in the office turn their attention to any man in the room over other women
- women who see women as competition

This absolutely. Women who say they don’t like hanging with other women because “women are all drama,” or “women are just crazy.” They are such “pick me” women and it’s sad.

Also, women who expect other women to deal with sexist BS because “that’s what I dealt with.” I think this can be common in-law relationships.

This is internalized misogyny. Yes.

[Anonymous]

Internalized misogyny is basically competition among women for men by putting other women down. I don't think having standards and putting women down for not meeting them is the same thing as actively trying to elevate a male instead of a female in some sort of competition of women for the man to pick them. For instance if you put other women down for not dressing well you are basically saying that women should have higher standards for themselves. It is related to men in that the dress is to impress men but it's not putting a man above a women. With the abuse where you automatically blame the woman when it was really the man's bad deed you are excusing the man's behavior and putting down the woman for something that wasn't her fault. The opposite would be if a man excused some woman's manipulative behavior as a way of getting back and a man and one upping themselves. Perhaps excusing lavish spending or something like this that the women should have had better control of.

[Anonymous]

The spoiled daughter who doesn’t treat her boyfriends well would be an example of internalized misandry from a man.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
My hottake from the Depp/Heard situation, which I haven’t followed closely, is that they’re both profoundly damaged people, one of whom had more resources than the other.

THIS, EXACTLY!!

+1

https://www.vox.com/culture/23043519/johnny-depp-amber-heard-defamation-trial-fairfax-county-domestic-abuse-violence-me-too

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think of things like:

-women who says they are guys girls, or that the prefer being friends with guys, or that they prefer having male bosses
- women who in the office turn their attention to any man in the room over other women
- women who see women as competition

Female here. I 💯 prefer having a male bosses. Ridiculous to suggest that makes me a misogynist.

Np but it kind of does? Sorry to be the bearer of bad news

DP here. My experience has shown that male bosses treated me with more respect than female bosses did. That's just my lived experience. I don't know why that is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Women, you’re not victims of anything. Life will be so much easier if you stop acting like everyone is against you and you’re a victim.

The US supreme court is about to rule that we have no personal rights.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m the poster that mentioned it. So, I’m assuming you want examples of where women have internalized misogynistic ideas. Examples would be:

Jumping in at work to make the coffee, plan the parties, take the meeting notes.
Writing all the thank you notes after the wedding
Jumping in to manage the relationship with their in laws
Feeling bad when you make more money than your husband
Judging women for how they dress
When you hear about a sexual assault, immediately wondering why the woman was there and if she was drunk

I could go on and on.

I don't necessarily agree the few examples are misongyny but outdated gender roles

This one is an example of internalized misogyny. The others are gender roles or competition to keep women's standards high. But the one below is specifically looking for blame in the female rather than the male.
When you hear about a sexual assault, immediately wondering why the woman was there and if she was drunk

Yes. I had a typo. I meant the first few were. Agree about the assault and clothing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Women, you’re not victims of anything. Life will be so much easier if you stop acting like everyone is against you and you’re a victim.

The US supreme court is about to rule that we have no personal rights.

Not true. You have the right to remain silent when the State tries to jail you for controlling your own reproduction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Women, you’re not victims of anything. Life will be so much easier if you stop acting like everyone is against you and you’re a victim.

The US supreme court is about to rule that we have no personal rights.

Only if you’re poor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Women, you’re not victims of anything. Life will be so much easier if you stop acting like everyone is against you and you’re a victim.

The US supreme court is about to rule that we have no personal rights.

Not true. You have the right to remain silent when the State tries to jail you for controlling your own reproduction.

If you are and adult who practices safe sex or remind abstinent until you’re able take care of a baby that resulted from you having sex, then you shouldn’t need to worry. I’m tired of people who know the consequences of having sex can result in a baby, bug never take proper precautions, and think it’s okay to get rid of a baby that’s inconvenient because they were too irresponsible to prevent the pregnancy. It’s not hard to prevent pregnancy. Stop making excuses because you’re too immature to handle the consequences of having sex. If you can’t handle those consequences, keep your legs closed.