6th Grade Math Options

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Anonymous wrote:How does 6th grade math placement work? My 4th grader is, for lack of a better way to put it, a total math whiz and bored in his compacted math class. The curriculum site lists Algebra 1 as an "other option" for 6th grade. Is that something a kid could test into, or what?

If you have a 4th grader now, you should advocate for them to do pre-algebra (AIM) next year, which will set them up for Algebra in 6th. Don't wait another year, start now.

Why? The kid has to take math every year so what math classes would they take in grades 7-12 if they did Algebra in 6th grade? That Algebra grade will get factored into HS GPA. Do you really want to put all that pressure on your kid the first year they are in Middle School?

Assuming the child is really good ath math, this would work:

6th - Algebra
7th - Geometry
8th - Algebra II (either at home school or HS)
9th - Pre-Calculus
10th - AP Calculus
11th - AP Statistics or M/V Calculus
12th - Whichever one of the above the child didn't take in 11th

There are even more advanced options, but this is a solid set of classes and not wildly accelerated.

There are MCPS middle schools where only 28% are proficient in english and 10% are proficient in maths. I wonder what courses do they offer in those schools?

Very few MS offer Algebra as an option to 6th graders regardless of their proficiency. I've been told Frost will for nay kid with over 250 on their map. It does result in the 8th grader having to attend HS for an hour each day to take A2.

One of my kids is at TPMS and was scoring in the 280s on their MAP in 5th. They are not allowed to take Algebra in 6th because they didn't take AIM in 5th which wasn't an option at their elementary school. They had completed Algebra through AOPS prior to 6th grade anyway. Math class is a study hall for them.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, the more information the post the more nervous I get about accidentally IDing him, but he has been taking higher level math classes outside of school and doing well, which is both good for him (it's challenging, keeps him humble, and teaches him how to work) and contributing to the boredom problem at school big time. He's slated for Lakelands.

I’m sorry. So you are sending him to an outside math school that exposes him to untaught content and then bragging about a map score that reflects access to advanced/untaught content? And that you say is directly contributing to his boredom in school? It is not a race to skip foundational levels of math at age 9. It’s fine if he enjoys the outside math but I think it’s a stretch to say his map score indicates he’s an extreme outlier especially since he’s being tutored in the content outside of school.

What are you sorry about? No, I'm not bragging about his MAP score, I'm not even sure what it is, I don't even know what that test covers. I provided it to the best of my recollection because a PP specifically asked. I don't care about how he does on a standardized multiple choice math test and I totally agree it's not evidence that he's an extreme outlier. He's not skipping anything foundational, he's just already done everything he's doing now and I think has already done nearly everything he's slated to do in 5th grade compacted, and by the end of this year will probably have already done everything covered in AIM. He enjoys the outside work; I won't stop him from doing it just so he won't be quite as bored in school. It's very obviously good for him, you'll have to take my word for it. But if there's another way to be less bored in school, that would be good because he's getting more and more upset about it.

Kids in Algebra in 6th don't do AIM. However, its school specific on what their criteria is and if they offer it. And, not all schools offer Algebra 2 so your child may be sent to a high school.

I've seen you post a number of times about this same topic and you always assume your child's experience is the same as everyone else's. It's getting annoying because your information is confusing people. I know a child that did do AIM before going to Alg in 6th. Every school does it differently in terms of allowing exceptions or not and in terms of the procedures they use for those exceptions if they allow them.

+1 I've been around MCPS for a while, and have seen several different models in the age range OP is talking about. There are probably even more, because I'm not presumptuous enough to assume I've seen them all.

1) Kid starts 4/5 in 4th and gets moved to 5/6 in 4th grade, then does AIM in 5th at a nearby MS and Algebra in 6th.

2) Kid finishes Math 4/5 and moves directly to AIM in 5th at a nearby MS, then does Algebra in 6th.

3) Kid finishes Math 5/6, never takes AIM, and takes a placement test to get into Algebra in 6th.

4) Finally, there's at least one school in MCPS flat-out teaching AIM to 5th graders inside the ES building. Those kids would also do Algebra in 6th.

The reason I'm bothering to list all of this out is because the best use of DCUM is to educate one another about what is possible. Princpals will tell you something "cannot be done" but what they actually mean is that "it's complicated and we don't normally do it here."

The more information we have as parents, particualrly those of us at schools where the administration is not necessarily focused on the highest fliers, the better chance we have of giving our kids the same advantages they would get in another part of the county.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, the more information the post the more nervous I get about accidentally IDing him, but he has been taking higher level math classes outside of school and doing well, which is both good for him (it's challenging, keeps him humble, and teaches him how to work) and contributing to the boredom problem at school big time. He's slated for Lakelands.

I’m sorry. So you are sending him to an outside math school that exposes him to untaught content and then bragging about a map score that reflects access to advanced/untaught content? And that you say is directly contributing to his boredom in school? It is not a race to skip foundational levels of math at age 9. It’s fine if he enjoys the outside math but I think it’s a stretch to say his map score indicates he’s an extreme outlier especially since he’s being tutored in the content outside of school.

What are you sorry about? No, I'm not bragging about his MAP score, I'm not even sure what it is, I don't even know what that test covers. I provided it to the best of my recollection because a PP specifically asked. I don't care about how he does on a standardized multiple choice math test and I totally agree it's not evidence that he's an extreme outlier. He's not skipping anything foundational, he's just already done everything he's doing now and I think has already done nearly everything he's slated to do in 5th grade compacted, and by the end of this year will probably have already done everything covered in AIM. He enjoys the outside work; I won't stop him from doing it just so he won't be quite as bored in school. It's very obviously good for him, you'll have to take my word for it. But if there's another way to be less bored in school, that would be good because he's getting more and more upset about it.

Kids in Algebra in 6th don't do AIM. However, its school specific on what their criteria is and if they offer it. And, not all schools offer Algebra 2 so your child may be sent to a high school.

I've seen you post a number of times about this same topic and you always assume your child's experience is the same as everyone else's. It's getting annoying because your information is confusing people. I know a child that did do AIM before going to Alg in 6th. Every school does it differently in terms of allowing exceptions or not and in terms of the procedures they use for those exceptions if they allow them.

+1 I've been around MCPS for a while, and have seen several different models in the age range OP is talking about. There are probably even more, because I'm not presumptuous enough to assume I've seen them all.

1) Kid starts 4/5 in 4th and gets moved to 5/6 in 4th grade, then does AIM in 5th at a nearby MS and Algebra in 6th.

2) Kid finishes Math 4/5 and moves directly to AIM in 5th at a nearby MS, then does Algebra in 6th.

3) Kid finishes Math 5/6, never takes AIM, and takes a placement test to get into Algebra in 6th.

4) Finally, there's at least one school in MCPS flat-out teaching AIM to 5th graders inside the ES building. Those kids would also do Algebra in 6th.

The reason I'm bothering to list all of this out is because the best use of DCUM is to educate one another about what is possible. Princpals will tell you something "cannot be done" but what they actually mean is that "it's complicated and we don't normally do it here."

The more information we have as parents, particualrly those of us at schools where the administration is not necessarily focused on the highest fliers, the better chance we have of giving our kids the same advantages they would get in another part of the county.

Why keep it a secret? Let us know which one so we can reference it for interactions with other schools.

Otherwise, it just sounds like someone drumming up discontent on a rumor. Sheesh!

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The inconsistency across elementary and middle schools is annoying. Luckily it all evens out in HS. Kids that got bussed around to be a year ahead and those advanced students who did not have that opportunity all ended up in the SAME classes.

As other parents of older kids have said, there is no reason kids need to take Algebra in 6th grade. It works out fine to take it in 7th. It’s fine. Relax and think ahead.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, the more information the post the more nervous I get about accidentally IDing him, but he has been taking higher level math classes outside of school and doing well, which is both good for him (it's challenging, keeps him humble, and teaches him how to work) and contributing to the boredom problem at school big time. He's slated for Lakelands.

I’m sorry. So you are sending him to an outside math school that exposes him to untaught content and then bragging about a map score that reflects access to advanced/untaught content? And that you say is directly contributing to his boredom in school? It is not a race to skip foundational levels of math at age 9. It’s fine if he enjoys the outside math but I think it’s a stretch to say his map score indicates he’s an extreme outlier especially since he’s being tutored in the content outside of school.

What are you sorry about? No, I'm not bragging about his MAP score, I'm not even sure what it is, I don't even know what that test covers. I provided it to the best of my recollection because a PP specifically asked. I don't care about how he does on a standardized multiple choice math test and I totally agree it's not evidence that he's an extreme outlier. He's not skipping anything foundational, he's just already done everything he's doing now and I think has already done nearly everything he's slated to do in 5th grade compacted, and by the end of this year will probably have already done everything covered in AIM. He enjoys the outside work; I won't stop him from doing it just so he won't be quite as bored in school. It's very obviously good for him, you'll have to take my word for it. But if there's another way to be less bored in school, that would be good because he's getting more and more upset about it.

Kids in Algebra in 6th don't do AIM. However, its school specific on what their criteria is and if they offer it. And, not all schools offer Algebra 2 so your child may be sent to a high school.

I've seen you post a number of times about this same topic and you always assume your child's experience is the same as everyone else's. It's getting annoying because your information is confusing people. I know a child that did do AIM before going to Alg in 6th. Every school does it differently in terms of allowing exceptions or not and in terms of the procedures they use for those exceptions if they allow them.

+1 I've been around MCPS for a while, and have seen several different models in the age range OP is talking about. There are probably even more, because I'm not presumptuous enough to assume I've seen them all.

1) Kid starts 4/5 in 4th and gets moved to 5/6 in 4th grade, then does AIM in 5th at a nearby MS and Algebra in 6th.

2) Kid finishes Math 4/5 and moves directly to AIM in 5th at a nearby MS, then does Algebra in 6th.

3) Kid finishes Math 5/6, never takes AIM, and takes a placement test to get into Algebra in 6th.

4) Finally, there's at least one school in MCPS flat-out teaching AIM to 5th graders inside the ES building. Those kids would also do Algebra in 6th.

The reason I'm bothering to list all of this out is because the best use of DCUM is to educate one another about what is possible. Princpals will tell you something "cannot be done" but what they actually mean is that "it's complicated and we don't normally do it here."

The more information we have as parents, particualrly those of us at schools where the administration is not necessarily focused on the highest fliers, the better chance we have of giving our kids the same advantages they would get in another part of the county.

Why keep it a secret? Let us know which one so we can reference it for interactions with other schools.

Otherwise, it just sounds like someone drumming up discontent on a rumor. Sheesh!

First rule of W feeders is you do not talk about W feeders.

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Anonymous wrote:How does 6th grade math placement work? My 4th grader is, for lack of a better way to put it, a total math whiz and bored in his compacted math class. The curriculum site lists Algebra 1 as an "other option" for 6th grade. Is that something a kid could test into, or what?

If you have a 4th grader now, you should advocate for them to do pre-algebra (AIM) next year, which will set them up for Algebra in 6th. Don't wait another year, start now.

Why? The kid has to take math every year so what math classes would they take in grades 7-12 if they did Algebra in 6th grade? That Algebra grade will get factored into HS GPA. Do you really want to put all that pressure on your kid the first year they are in Middle School?

Assuming the child is really good ath math, this would work:

6th - Algebra
7th - Geometry
8th - Algebra II (either at home school or HS)
9th - Pre-Calculus
10th - AP Calculus
11th - AP Statistics or M/V Calculus
12th - Whichever one of the above the child didn't take in 11th

There are even more advanced options, but this is a solid set of classes and not wildly accelerated.

There are MCPS middle schools where only 28% are proficient in english and 10% are proficient in maths. I wonder what courses do they offer in those schools?

Very few MS offer Algebra as an option to 6th graders regardless of their proficiency. I've been told Frost will for nay kid with over 250 on their map. It does result in the 8th grader having to attend HS for an hour each day to take A2.

One of my kids is at TPMS and was scoring in the 280s on their MAP in 5th. They are not allowed to take Algebra in 6th because they didn't take AIM in 5th which wasn't an option at their elementary school. They had completed Algebra through AOPS prior to 6th grade anyway. Math class is a study hall for them.

I've heard that from TPMS families which was one reason we weren't interested. I don't know what the criteria is for Algebra in terms of MAP testing. It may be 250 as well, but I never asked. Our school has a huge range of math classes to meet different kids needs.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, the more information the post the more nervous I get about accidentally IDing him, but he has been taking higher level math classes outside of school and doing well, which is both good for him (it's challenging, keeps him humble, and teaches him how to work) and contributing to the boredom problem at school big time. He's slated for Lakelands.

I’m sorry. So you are sending him to an outside math school that exposes him to untaught content and then bragging about a map score that reflects access to advanced/untaught content? And that you say is directly contributing to his boredom in school? It is not a race to skip foundational levels of math at age 9. It’s fine if he enjoys the outside math but I think it’s a stretch to say his map score indicates he’s an extreme outlier especially since he’s being tutored in the content outside of school.

What are you sorry about? No, I'm not bragging about his MAP score, I'm not even sure what it is, I don't even know what that test covers. I provided it to the best of my recollection because a PP specifically asked. I don't care about how he does on a standardized multiple choice math test and I totally agree it's not evidence that he's an extreme outlier. He's not skipping anything foundational, he's just already done everything he's doing now and I think has already done nearly everything he's slated to do in 5th grade compacted, and by the end of this year will probably have already done everything covered in AIM. He enjoys the outside work; I won't stop him from doing it just so he won't be quite as bored in school. It's very obviously good for him, you'll have to take my word for it. But if there's another way to be less bored in school, that would be good because he's getting more and more upset about it.

Kids in Algebra in 6th don't do AIM. However, its school specific on what their criteria is and if they offer it. And, not all schools offer Algebra 2 so your child may be sent to a high school.

I've seen you post a number of times about this same topic and you always assume your child's experience is the same as everyone else's. It's getting annoying because your information is confusing people. I know a child that did do AIM before going to Alg in 6th. Every school does it differently in terms of allowing exceptions or not and in terms of the procedures they use for those exceptions if they allow them.

+1 I've been around MCPS for a while, and have seen several different models in the age range OP is talking about. There are probably even more, because I'm not presumptuous enough to assume I've seen them all.

1) Kid starts 4/5 in 4th and gets moved to 5/6 in 4th grade, then does AIM in 5th at a nearby MS and Algebra in 6th.

2) Kid finishes Math 4/5 and moves directly to AIM in 5th at a nearby MS, then does Algebra in 6th.

3) Kid finishes Math 5/6, never takes AIM, and takes a placement test to get into Algebra in 6th.

4) Finally, there's at least one school in MCPS flat-out teaching AIM to 5th graders inside the ES building. Those kids would also do Algebra in 6th.

The reason I'm bothering to list all of this out is because the best use of DCUM is to educate one another about what is possible. Princpals will tell you something "cannot be done" but what they actually mean is that "it's complicated and we don't normally do it here."

The more information we have as parents, particualrly those of us at schools where the administration is not necessarily focused on the highest fliers, the better chance we have of giving our kids the same advantages they would get in another part of the county.

Why keep it a secret? Let us know which one so we can reference it for interactions with other schools.

Otherwise, it just sounds like someone drumming up discontent on a rumor. Sheesh!

First rule of W feeders is you do not talk about W feeders.

It may not be a W school, but that's great if they teach AIM in 5th. Otherwise kids just skip AIM.

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Anonymous wrote:The inconsistency across elementary and middle schools is annoying. Luckily it all evens out in HS. Kids that got bussed around to be a year ahead and those advanced students who did not have that opportunity all ended up in the SAME classes.

As other parents of older kids have said, there is no reason kids need to take Algebra in 6th grade. It works out fine to take it in 7th. It’s fine. Relax and think ahead.

Some years our school has Algebra 2, other years not. I hope they will do it virtually vs. sending kids to the high school. My child is on this track. I don't see any advantage beyond child wanted to do it to avoid another year of doing the strategies and really boring math. They wanted more concrete math. Taking Algebra in 7th is still really really early compared to privates and other school systems. Often it is not till 8/9th.

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Anonymous wrote:The google doc was guidance that applied to last year's decision making for the current school year. This year, there should be different guidance for 2022-23 placement since there have been fewer gaps and there has been more time to plan reintegration of skipped curriculum from 2020-21 (including Spring 2020) into later years' classes. I still expect there to be some differences from the way things were decided pre-pandemic, but it should be closer to normal.

Should[i] being the operative word. I think the powers that be in central are trying to slow down the math pathway, not support acceleration and enrichment. The attempt to use pandemic as an excuse to slow everyone down got strongly opposed by parents last year, who heard about it via teacher leaks not direct communication from Central, so it became "a thing," which caused Central to backtrack a bit last Spring. ES parents with a math kid should assume that they will have to keep pushing for appropriate math.

+1. They are creating barrier after barrier to slow down the math pathways without data to justify the changes. They are using the pandemic as an excuse. I suspect it will help close the achievement gap if high flyers have their wings clipped.

Our school doesn't heavily advertise it and only a handful of kids do it, maybe a dozen at most. Its not in the course guidebook. It was offered on the registration form. Anyone who wanted it could request it.

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Anonymous wrote:How does 6th grade math placement work? My 4th grader is, for lack of a better way to put it, a total math whiz and bored in his compacted math class. The curriculum site lists Algebra 1 as an "other option" for 6th grade. Is that something a kid could test into, or what?

If you have a 4th grader now, you should advocate for them to do pre-algebra (AIM) next year, which will set them up for Algebra in 6th. Don't wait another year, start now.

Why? The kid has to take math every year so what math classes would they take in grades 7-12 if they did Algebra in 6th grade? That Algebra grade will get factored into HS GPA. Do you really want to put all that pressure on your kid the first year they are in Middle School?

Assuming the child is really good ath math, this would work:

6th - Algebra
7th - Geometry
8th - Algebra II (either at home school or HS)
9th - Pre-Calculus
10th - AP Calculus
11th - AP Statistics or M/V Calculus
12th - Whichever one of the above the child didn't take in 11th

There are even more advanced options, but this is a solid set of classes and not wildly accelerated.

There are MCPS middle schools where only 28% are proficient in english and 10% are proficient in maths. I wonder what courses do they offer in those schools?

I dont' know what our % are, but they we are one of those schools you are referring to and yes, they are offering it.

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Anonymous wrote:How does 6th grade math placement work? My 4th grader is, for lack of a better way to put it, a total math whiz and bored in his compacted math class. The curriculum site lists Algebra 1 as an "other option" for 6th grade. Is that something a kid could test into, or what?

If you have a 4th grader now, you should advocate for them to do pre-algebra (AIM) next year, which will set them up for Algebra in 6th. Don't wait another year, start now.

Why? The kid has to take math every year so what math classes would they take in grades 7-12 if they did Algebra in 6th grade? That Algebra grade will get factored into HS GPA. Do you really want to put all that pressure on your kid the first year they are in Middle School?

Assuming the child is really good ath math, this would work:

6th - Algebra
7th - Geometry
8th - Algebra II (either at home school or HS)
9th - Pre-Calculus
10th - AP Calculus
11th - AP Statistics or M/V Calculus
12th - Whichever one of the above the child didn't take in 11th

There are even more advanced options, but this is a solid set of classes and not wildly accelerated.

There are MCPS middle schools where only 28% are proficient in english and 10% are proficient in maths. I wonder what courses do they offer in those schools?

Very few MS offer Algebra as an option to 6th graders regardless of their proficiency. I've been told Frost will for nay kid with over 250 on their map. It does result in the 8th grader having to attend HS for an hour each day to take A2.

One of my kids is at TPMS and was scoring in the 280s on their MAP in 5th. They are not allowed to take Algebra in 6th because they didn't take AIM in 5th which wasn't an option at their elementary school. They had completed Algebra through AOPS prior to 6th grade anyway. Math class is a study hall for them.

I've heard that from TPMS families which was one reason we weren't interested. I don't know what the criteria is for Algebra in terms of MAP testing. It may be 250 as well, but I never asked. Our school has a huge range of math classes to meet different kids needs.

Not most school flat out don't offer it at all regardless of map scores. Only a few of the wealthy schools do it to appease high-maintenance parents.

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Anonymous wrote:How does 6th grade math placement work? My 4th grader is, for lack of a better way to put it, a total math whiz and bored in his compacted math class. The curriculum site lists Algebra 1 as an "other option" for 6th grade. Is that something a kid could test into, or what?

If you have a 4th grader now, you should advocate for them to do pre-algebra (AIM) next year, which will set them up for Algebra in 6th. Don't wait another year, start now.

Why? The kid has to take math every year so what math classes would they take in grades 7-12 if they did Algebra in 6th grade? That Algebra grade will get factored into HS GPA. Do you really want to put all that pressure on your kid the first year they are in Middle School?

Assuming the child is really good ath math, this would work:

6th - Algebra
7th - Geometry
8th - Algebra II (either at home school or HS)
9th - Pre-Calculus
10th - AP Calculus
11th - AP Statistics or M/V Calculus
12th - Whichever one of the above the child didn't take in 11th

There are even more advanced options, but this is a solid set of classes and not wildly accelerated.

There are MCPS middle schools where only 28% are proficient in english and 10% are proficient in maths. I wonder what courses do they offer in those schools?

Very few MS offer Algebra as an option to 6th graders regardless of their proficiency. I've been told Frost will for nay kid with over 250 on their map. It does result in the 8th grader having to attend HS for an hour each day to take A2.

One of my kids is at TPMS and was scoring in the 280s on their MAP in 5th. They are not allowed to take Algebra in 6th because they didn't take AIM in 5th which wasn't an option at their elementary school. They had completed Algebra through AOPS prior to 6th grade anyway. Math class is a study hall for them.

I've heard that from TPMS families which was one reason we weren't interested. I don't know what the criteria is for Algebra in terms of MAP testing. It may be 250 as well, but I never asked. Our school has a huge range of math classes to meet different kids needs.

Not most school flat out don't offer it at all regardless of map scores. Only a few of the wealthy schools do it to appease high-maintenance parents.

We are not at a wealthy school.

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Anonymous wrote:How does 6th grade math placement work? My 4th grader is, for lack of a better way to put it, a total math whiz and bored in his compacted math class. The curriculum site lists Algebra 1 as an "other option" for 6th grade. Is that something a kid could test into, or what?

If you have a 4th grader now, you should advocate for them to do pre-algebra (AIM) next year, which will set them up for Algebra in 6th. Don't wait another year, start now.

Why? The kid has to take math every year so what math classes would they take in grades 7-12 if they did Algebra in 6th grade? That Algebra grade will get factored into HS GPA. Do you really want to put all that pressure on your kid the first year they are in Middle School?

Assuming the child is really good ath math, this would work:

6th - Algebra
7th - Geometry
8th - Algebra II (either at home school or HS)
9th - Pre-Calculus
10th - AP Calculus
11th - AP Statistics or M/V Calculus
12th - Whichever one of the above the child didn't take in 11th

There are even more advanced options, but this is a solid set of classes and not wildly accelerated.

There are MCPS middle schools where only 28% are proficient in english and 10% are proficient in maths. I wonder what courses do they offer in those schools?

Very few MS offer Algebra as an option to 6th graders regardless of their proficiency. I've been told Frost will for nay kid with over 250 on their map. It does result in the 8th grader having to attend HS for an hour each day to take A2.

One of my kids is at TPMS and was scoring in the 280s on their MAP in 5th. They are not allowed to take Algebra in 6th because they didn't take AIM in 5th which wasn't an option at their elementary school. They had completed Algebra through AOPS prior to 6th grade anyway. Math class is a study hall for them.

I've heard that from TPMS families which was one reason we weren't interested. I don't know what the criteria is for Algebra in terms of MAP testing. It may be 250 as well, but I never asked. Our school has a huge range of math classes to meet different kids needs.

Not most school flat out don't offer it at all regardless of map scores. Only a few of the wealthy schools do it to appease high-maintenance parents.

Name the schools or this is just BS/just trying to create a societal wedge with innuendo.

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Anonymous wrote:How does 6th grade math placement work? My 4th grader is, for lack of a better way to put it, a total math whiz and bored in his compacted math class. The curriculum site lists Algebra 1 as an "other option" for 6th grade. Is that something a kid could test into, or what?

If you have a 4th grader now, you should advocate for them to do pre-algebra (AIM) next year, which will set them up for Algebra in 6th. Don't wait another year, start now.

Why? The kid has to take math every year so what math classes would they take in grades 7-12 if they did Algebra in 6th grade? That Algebra grade will get factored into HS GPA. Do you really want to put all that pressure on your kid the first year they are in Middle School?

Assuming the child is really good ath math, this would work:

6th - Algebra
7th - Geometry
8th - Algebra II (either at home school or HS)
9th - Pre-Calculus
10th - AP Calculus
11th - AP Statistics or M/V Calculus
12th - Whichever one of the above the child didn't take in 11th

There are even more advanced options, but this is a solid set of classes and not wildly accelerated.

There are MCPS middle schools where only 28% are proficient in english and 10% are proficient in maths. I wonder what courses do they offer in those schools?

Very few MS offer Algebra as an option to 6th graders regardless of their proficiency. I've been told Frost will for nay kid with over 250 on their map. It does result in the 8th grader having to attend HS for an hour each day to take A2.

One of my kids is at TPMS and was scoring in the 280s on their MAP in 5th. They are not allowed to take Algebra in 6th because they didn't take AIM in 5th which wasn't an option at their elementary school. They had completed Algebra through AOPS prior to 6th grade anyway. Math class is a study hall for them.

I've heard that from TPMS families which was one reason we weren't interested. I don't know what the criteria is for Algebra in terms of MAP testing. It may be 250 as well, but I never asked. Our school has a huge range of math classes to meet different kids needs.

Not most school flat out don't offer it at all regardless of map scores. Only a few of the wealthy schools do it to appease high-maintenance parents.

Name the schools or this is just BS/just trying to create a societal wedge with innuendo.

DP but Frost is one of them.

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Anonymous wrote:How does 6th grade math placement work? My 4th grader is, for lack of a better way to put it, a total math whiz and bored in his compacted math class. The curriculum site lists Algebra 1 as an "other option" for 6th grade. Is that something a kid could test into, or what?

If you have a 4th grader now, you should advocate for them to do pre-algebra (AIM) next year, which will set them up for Algebra in 6th. Don't wait another year, start now.

Why? The kid has to take math every year so what math classes would they take in grades 7-12 if they did Algebra in 6th grade? That Algebra grade will get factored into HS GPA. Do you really want to put all that pressure on your kid the first year they are in Middle School?

Assuming the child is really good ath math, this would work:

6th - Algebra
7th - Geometry
8th - Algebra II (either at home school or HS)
9th - Pre-Calculus
10th - AP Calculus
11th - AP Statistics or M/V Calculus
12th - Whichever one of the above the child didn't take in 11th

There are even more advanced options, but this is a solid set of classes and not wildly accelerated.

There are MCPS middle schools where only 28% are proficient in english and 10% are proficient in maths. I wonder what courses do they offer in those schools?

Very few MS offer Algebra as an option to 6th graders regardless of their proficiency. I've been told Frost will for nay kid with over 250 on their map. It does result in the 8th grader having to attend HS for an hour each day to take A2.

One of my kids is at TPMS and was scoring in the 280s on their MAP in 5th. They are not allowed to take Algebra in 6th because they didn't take AIM in 5th which wasn't an option at their elementary school. They had completed Algebra through AOPS prior to 6th grade anyway. Math class is a study hall for them.

I've heard that from TPMS families which was one reason we weren't interested. I don't know what the criteria is for Algebra in terms of MAP testing. It may be 250 as well, but I never asked. Our school has a huge range of math classes to meet different kids needs.

Not most school flat out don't offer it at all regardless of map scores. Only a few of the wealthy schools do it to appease high-maintenance parents.

Name the schools or this is just BS/just trying to create a societal wedge with innuendo.

There are several schools do Algebra in 6, not just rich schools. I don’t know any schools that teach aim but no reason not to if enough kids need it. They just put the. 6th graders with the 7th graders. It’s no big deal. I have not heard of a test.