6th Grade Math Options

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It was never common even before the lottery.

None of you actually seem to have a child at TPMS because there are still only a very small number of kids in this situation and they come from all over. I do think there's a child from Frost but most of the rest are not from Ws. Many of the kids who were accelerated when they used the Cogat were not getting offers from TPMS anyway. Once your child goes to Blair it won't matter anyway. The most advanced kids take a special class in 9th/10th and often kids go "backwards" in order to take it. Backwards is really the wrong term but I can't think of a better one but the kids who skipped a year end up in the same class as the ones who did not. You can't predict who does well in that class based on their previous math path either.

Not really. TPMS outright refuses to let anyone take Algebra in 6th unless they took AIM in 5th and the kids that meet that criteria don't come from all over but one or two specific schools that allow this. However, MS's like Frost however allow anyone who scores over 250 on their map-m to take Algebra in 6th at least I've read this here. My children went through TPMS.

It sounds like the advantage to TPMS isn't really a huge advantage for some math kids then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It was never common even before the lottery.

None of you actually seem to have a child at TPMS because there are still only a very small number of kids in this situation and they come from all over. I do think there's a child from Frost but most of the rest are not from Ws. Many of the kids who were accelerated when they used the Cogat were not getting offers from TPMS anyway. Once your child goes to Blair it won't matter anyway. The most advanced kids take a special class in 9th/10th and often kids go "backwards" in order to take it. Backwards is really the wrong term but I can't think of a better one but the kids who skipped a year end up in the same class as the ones who did not. You can't predict who does well in that class based on their previous math path either.

Not really. TPMS outright refuses to let anyone take Algebra in 6th unless they took AIM in 5th and the kids that meet that criteria don't come from all over but one or two specific schools that allow this. However, MS's like Frost however allow anyone who scores over 250 on their map-m to take Algebra in 6th at least I've read this here. My children went through TPMS.

It sounds like the advantage to TPMS isn't really a huge advantage for some math kids then.

Except the TPMS kids get to accelerate through their math classes as they only have math every other day. They are literally getting through the curriculum in 50 percent of the time of the other kids who have math every day. The other 50 percent of the time they are taking Magnet computer science.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It was never common even before the lottery.

None of you actually seem to have a child at TPMS because there are still only a very small number of kids in this situation and they come from all over. I do think there's a child from Frost but most of the rest are not from Ws. Many of the kids who were accelerated when they used the Cogat were not getting offers from TPMS anyway. Once your child goes to Blair it won't matter anyway. The most advanced kids take a special class in 9th/10th and often kids go "backwards" in order to take it. Backwards is really the wrong term but I can't think of a better one but the kids who skipped a year end up in the same class as the ones who did not. You can't predict who does well in that class based on their previous math path either.

Not really. TPMS outright refuses to let anyone take Algebra in 6th unless they took AIM in 5th and the kids that meet that criteria don't come from all over but one or two specific schools that allow this. However, MS's like Frost however allow anyone who scores over 250 on their map-m to take Algebra in 6th at least I've read this here. My children went through TPMS.

It sounds like the advantage to TPMS isn't really a huge advantage for some math kids then.

This depends on how you view these things. TPMS goes much deeper into these subjects and covers topics that the normal curriculum does not at a much faster pace.

Persoanlly, I prefer their approach to building a solid and deep foundation in math before rushing through the basics but to some getting to calculus asap is a goal. I don't really get it myself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It was never common even before the lottery.

None of you actually seem to have a child at TPMS because there are still only a very small number of kids in this situation and they come from all over. I do think there's a child from Frost but most of the rest are not from Ws. Many of the kids who were accelerated when they used the Cogat were not getting offers from TPMS anyway. Once your child goes to Blair it won't matter anyway. The most advanced kids take a special class in 9th/10th and often kids go "backwards" in order to take it. Backwards is really the wrong term but I can't think of a better one but the kids who skipped a year end up in the same class as the ones who did not. You can't predict who does well in that class based on their previous math path either.

Not really. TPMS outright refuses to let anyone take Algebra in 6th unless they took AIM in 5th and the kids that meet that criteria don't come from all over but one or two specific schools that allow this. However, MS's like Frost however allow anyone who scores over 250 on their map-m to take Algebra in 6th at least I've read this here. My children went through TPMS.

It sounds like the advantage to TPMS isn't really a huge advantage for some math kids then.

This depends on how you view these things. TPMS goes much deeper into these subjects and covers topics that the normal curriculum does not at a much faster pace.

Persoanlly, I prefer their approach to building a solid and deep foundation in math before rushing through the basics but to some getting to calculus asap is a goal. I don't really get it myself.

Deeper is subjective because I hear from some families deeper really isn't deeper and you can always supplement outside of school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It was never common even before the lottery.

None of you actually seem to have a child at TPMS because there are still only a very small number of kids in this situation and they come from all over. I do think there's a child from Frost but most of the rest are not from Ws. Many of the kids who were accelerated when they used the Cogat were not getting offers from TPMS anyway. Once your child goes to Blair it won't matter anyway. The most advanced kids take a special class in 9th/10th and often kids go "backwards" in order to take it. Backwards is really the wrong term but I can't think of a better one but the kids who skipped a year end up in the same class as the ones who did not. You can't predict who does well in that class based on their previous math path either.

Not really. TPMS outright refuses to let anyone take Algebra in 6th unless they took AIM in 5th and the kids that meet that criteria don't come from all over but one or two specific schools that allow this. However, MS's like Frost however allow anyone who scores over 250 on their map-m to take Algebra in 6th at least I've read this here. My children went through TPMS.

It sounds like the advantage to TPMS isn't really a huge advantage for some math kids then.

Except the TPMS kids get to accelerate through their math classes as they only have math every other day. They are literally getting through the curriculum in 50 percent of the time of the other kids who have math every day. The other 50 percent of the time they are taking Magnet computer science.

The A/B schedule is pretty common in Middle School. They have longer classes each day so its the same amount of class time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It was never common even before the lottery.

None of you actually seem to have a child at TPMS because there are still only a very small number of kids in this situation and they come from all over. I do think there's a child from Frost but most of the rest are not from Ws. Many of the kids who were accelerated when they used the Cogat were not getting offers from TPMS anyway. Once your child goes to Blair it won't matter anyway. The most advanced kids take a special class in 9th/10th and often kids go "backwards" in order to take it. Backwards is really the wrong term but I can't think of a better one but the kids who skipped a year end up in the same class as the ones who did not. You can't predict who does well in that class based on their previous math path either.

Not really. TPMS outright refuses to let anyone take Algebra in 6th unless they took AIM in 5th and the kids that meet that criteria don't come from all over but one or two specific schools that allow this. However, MS's like Frost however allow anyone who scores over 250 on their map-m to take Algebra in 6th at least I've read this here. My children went through TPMS.

It sounds like the advantage to TPMS isn't really a huge advantage for some math kids then.

Except the TPMS kids get to accelerate through their math classes as they only have math every other day. They are literally getting through the curriculum in 50 percent of the time of the other kids who have math every day. The other 50 percent of the time they are taking Magnet computer science.

The A/B schedule is pretty common in Middle School. They have longer classes each day so its the same amount of class time.

No it’s not. The magnet kids take math every other day. The non magnet kids take it every day - meaning magnet algebra has 50 percent less teaching time than regular non magnet algebra which is every day, despite the odd/even day schedule.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It was never common even before the lottery.

None of you actually seem to have a child at TPMS because there are still only a very small number of kids in this situation and they come from all over. I do think there's a child from Frost but most of the rest are not from Ws. Many of the kids who were accelerated when they used the Cogat were not getting offers from TPMS anyway. Once your child goes to Blair it won't matter anyway. The most advanced kids take a special class in 9th/10th and often kids go "backwards" in order to take it. Backwards is really the wrong term but I can't think of a better one but the kids who skipped a year end up in the same class as the ones who did not. You can't predict who does well in that class based on their previous math path either.

Not really. TPMS outright refuses to let anyone take Algebra in 6th unless they took AIM in 5th and the kids that meet that criteria don't come from all over but one or two specific schools that allow this. However, MS's like Frost however allow anyone who scores over 250 on their map-m to take Algebra in 6th at least I've read this here. My children went through TPMS.

It sounds like the advantage to TPMS isn't really a huge advantage for some math kids then.

Except the TPMS kids get to accelerate through their math classes as they only have math every other day. They are literally getting through the curriculum in 50 percent of the time of the other kids who have math every day. The other 50 percent of the time they are taking Magnet computer science.

The A/B schedule is pretty common in Middle School. They have longer classes each day so its the same amount of class time.

No it’s not. The magnet kids take math every other day. The non magnet kids take it every day - meaning magnet algebra has 50 percent less teaching time than regular non magnet algebra which is every day, despite the odd/even day schedule.

Then, TPMS sounds pretty terrible. A/B schedule is common in many middle schools. It may not be in your experience but we are on an A/B schedule.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It was never common even before the lottery.

None of you actually seem to have a child at TPMS because there are still only a very small number of kids in this situation and they come from all over. I do think there's a child from Frost but most of the rest are not from Ws. Many of the kids who were accelerated when they used the Cogat were not getting offers from TPMS anyway. Once your child goes to Blair it won't matter anyway. The most advanced kids take a special class in 9th/10th and often kids go "backwards" in order to take it. Backwards is really the wrong term but I can't think of a better one but the kids who skipped a year end up in the same class as the ones who did not. You can't predict who does well in that class based on their previous math path either.

Not really. TPMS outright refuses to let anyone take Algebra in 6th unless they took AIM in 5th and the kids that meet that criteria don't come from all over but one or two specific schools that allow this. However, MS's like Frost however allow anyone who scores over 250 on their map-m to take Algebra in 6th at least I've read this here. My children went through TPMS.

It sounds like the advantage to TPMS isn't really a huge advantage for some math kids then.

Except the TPMS kids get to accelerate through their math classes as they only have math every other day. They are literally getting through the curriculum in 50 percent of the time of the other kids who have math every day. The other 50 percent of the time they are taking Magnet computer science.

The A/B schedule is pretty common in Middle School. They have longer classes each day so its the same amount of class time.

No it’s not. The magnet kids take math every other day. The non magnet kids take it every day - meaning magnet algebra has 50 percent less teaching time than regular non magnet algebra which is every day, despite the odd/even day schedule.

Then, TPMS sounds pretty terrible. A/B schedule is common in many middle schools. It may not be in your experience but we are on an A/B schedule.

I’m not sure how to make this any clearer. TPMS has an A/B schedule, but non-magnet students have math on both A and B days, which are actually known as odd/even days at TPMS. Magnet students don’t have math every day. On A or odd days (for example) they have magnet math and in B or even days they have magnet computer science. Or Vice versa. I’m not sure why that’s so hard to understand. They have a more in depth math curriculum and half the lesson time as the other students not in the magnet program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It was never common even before the lottery.

None of you actually seem to have a child at TPMS because there are still only a very small number of kids in this situation and they come from all over. I do think there's a child from Frost but most of the rest are not from Ws. Many of the kids who were accelerated when they used the Cogat were not getting offers from TPMS anyway. Once your child goes to Blair it won't matter anyway. The most advanced kids take a special class in 9th/10th and often kids go "backwards" in order to take it. Backwards is really the wrong term but I can't think of a better one but the kids who skipped a year end up in the same class as the ones who did not. You can't predict who does well in that class based on their previous math path either.

Not really. TPMS outright refuses to let anyone take Algebra in 6th unless they took AIM in 5th and the kids that meet that criteria don't come from all over but one or two specific schools that allow this. However, MS's like Frost however allow anyone who scores over 250 on their map-m to take Algebra in 6th at least I've read this here. My children went through TPMS.

It sounds like the advantage to TPMS isn't really a huge advantage for some math kids then.

Except the TPMS kids get to accelerate through their math classes as they only have math every other day. They are literally getting through the curriculum in 50 percent of the time of the other kids who have math every day. The other 50 percent of the time they are taking Magnet computer science.

The A/B schedule is pretty common in Middle School. They have longer classes each day so its the same amount of class time.

No it’s not. The magnet kids take math every other day. The non magnet kids take it every day - meaning magnet algebra has 50 percent less teaching time than regular non magnet algebra which is every day, despite the odd/even day schedule.

Then, TPMS sounds pretty terrible. A/B schedule is common in many middle schools. It may not be in your experience but we are on an A/B schedule.

I’m not sure how to make this any clearer. TPMS has an A/B schedule, but non-magnet students have math on both A and B days, which are actually known as odd/even days at TPMS. Magnet students don’t have math every day. On A or odd days (for example) they have magnet math and in B or even days they have magnet computer science. Or Vice versa. I’m not sure why that’s so hard to understand. They have a more in depth math curriculum and half the lesson time as the other students not in the magnet program.

Ok, what do you want? This makes little sense but ok. You cannot have a more in depth math curriculum with half the lesson time. That sounds pretty terrible.

[Anonymous]

Takoma Park looks like they are on an A/B schedule with 8 classes. So, saying they get 9 classes makes no sense?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Takoma Park looks like they are on an A/B schedule with 8 classes. So, saying they get 9 classes makes no sense?

https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/schools/takomaparkms/administration/bellschedules/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It was never common even before the lottery.

None of you actually seem to have a child at TPMS because there are still only a very small number of kids in this situation and they come from all over. I do think there's a child from Frost but most of the rest are not from Ws. Many of the kids who were accelerated when they used the Cogat were not getting offers from TPMS anyway. Once your child goes to Blair it won't matter anyway. The most advanced kids take a special class in 9th/10th and often kids go "backwards" in order to take it. Backwards is really the wrong term but I can't think of a better one but the kids who skipped a year end up in the same class as the ones who did not. You can't predict who does well in that class based on their previous math path either.

Not really. TPMS outright refuses to let anyone take Algebra in 6th unless they took AIM in 5th and the kids that meet that criteria don't come from all over but one or two specific schools that allow this. However, MS's like Frost however allow anyone who scores over 250 on their map-m to take Algebra in 6th at least I've read this here. My children went through TPMS.

It sounds like the advantage to TPMS isn't really a huge advantage for some math kids then.

Except the TPMS kids get to accelerate through their math classes as they only have math every other day. They are literally getting through the curriculum in 50 percent of the time of the other kids who have math every day. The other 50 percent of the time they are taking Magnet computer science.

The A/B schedule is pretty common in Middle School. They have longer classes each day so its the same amount of class time.

No it’s not. The magnet kids take math every other day. The non magnet kids take it every day - meaning magnet algebra has 50 percent less teaching time than regular non magnet algebra which is every day, despite the odd/even day schedule.

Then, TPMS sounds pretty terrible. A/B schedule is common in many middle schools. It may not be in your experience but we are on an A/B schedule.

I’m not sure how to make this any clearer. TPMS has an A/B schedule, but non-magnet students have math on both A and B days, which are actually known as odd/even days at TPMS. Magnet students don’t have math every day. On A or odd days (for example) they have magnet math and in B or even days they have magnet computer science. Or Vice versa. I’m not sure why that’s so hard to understand. They have a more in depth math curriculum and half the lesson time as the other students not in the magnet program.

Ok, what do you want? This makes little sense but ok. You cannot have a more in depth math curriculum with half the lesson time. That sounds pretty terrible.

What do I want? I was just trying to help you understand simple English. Not sure why you were not smart enough to understand the first time, or why you think it makes no sense that 50 percent of the time devoted to math for non magnet kids goes to magnet computer science for magnet kids, but I certainly don’t need to explain it again! My own kid is breezing through magnet algebra and loves magnet computer science so it’s working great for us and it’s the only way they could add computer science to the curriculum which is well worth it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Takoma Park looks like they are on an A/B schedule with 8 classes. So, saying they get 9 classes makes no sense?

They don’t. Magnet kids get 8. Non magnet kids have math for two of those 8 periods so only 7 classes. Both have two electives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Takoma Park looks like they are on an A/B schedule with 8 classes. So, saying they get 9 classes makes no sense?

They don’t. Magnet kids get 8. Non magnet kids have math for two of those 8 periods so only 7 classes. Both have two electives.

Unless you include TAP?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Takoma Park looks like they are on an A/B schedule with 8 classes. So, saying they get 9 classes makes no sense?

They don’t. Magnet kids get 8. Non magnet kids have math for two of those 8 periods so only 7 classes. Both have two electives.

That is no different from other schools that offer 8 classes. Only TMPS is offering more math to regular students to help them. Thats a good thing. Magnet kids get the same as most other schools.