Girl's School and Gender Pronouns

[Anonymous]

Interesting argument since the majority of these children identifying as the opposite sex is based on a feeling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OK, I don't quite belong here since my child is in public but I noticed the subject and decided to respond. My 6th grader came home from school and said that they had a substitute, a nice old lady who came into the classroom and said something along the lines: "Good morning, boys and girls". Woke 6th graders went through the roof since the lady, apparently, was transphobic and hurt the feelings of gender-fluid students.

FWIW, the woke ones are always girls.

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Why not call them students instead of girls. And seriously does your handbook really say “girls”, our handbook always said young ladies.

It’s just weird you are stuck on the word girl.

My point is that the school is for females - young ones - who are generally called girls (or young ladies if you prefer.) The point is not the specific word, the point is that the purpose and identity of the school is to educate young females and that it seems ludicrous to try and erase that identity when it is the very purpose of the school.

I think it's ridiculous to box them in. They are in a school, they are students. Period. That is their purpose there.

Female CEO
Female athlete

It's like and * she is an "athlete" but also female... not she is a CEO, athlete... STUDENT.

No. Parents like me specifically chose this school because it is for girl students. All schools are not for all students. Schools and like Holton and NCS are specifically for girls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting argument since the majority of these children identifying as the opposite sex is based on a feeling.

Of course it is. What more would it be? I'm mad at mom today. That's a feeling. By this evening, I will be happy with mom again. That's how it works.

To call anything related to this entire craze "biology" or "based on science" is the stuff of superstition and anti-science nuts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why not call them students instead of girls. And seriously does your handbook really say “girls”, our handbook always said young ladies.

It’s just weird you are stuck on the word girl.

My point is that the school is for females - young ones - who are generally called girls (or young ladies if you prefer.) The point is not the specific word, the point is that the purpose and identity of the school is to educate young females and that it seems ludicrous to try and erase that identity when it is the very purpose of the school.

I think it's ridiculous to box them in. They are in a school, they are students. Period. That is their purpose there.

Female CEO
Female athlete

It's like and * she is an "athlete" but also female... not she is a CEO, athlete... STUDENT.

No. Parents like me specifically chose this school because it is for girl students. All schools are not for all students. Schools and like Holton and NCS are specifically for girls.

The very small minority is not going to change these single-sex schools. Get over it and go to public school or a coed private school. Not to mention 99% of this is just a fad perpetuated by social media and having an effect on these young girls minds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why not call them students instead of girls. And seriously does your handbook really say “girls”, our handbook always said young ladies.

It’s just weird you are stuck on the word girl.

My point is that the school is for females - young ones - who are generally called girls (or young ladies if you prefer.) The point is not the specific word, the point is that the purpose and identity of the school is to educate young females and that it seems ludicrous to try and erase that identity when it is the very purpose of the school.

I think it's ridiculous to box them in. They are in a school, they are students. Period. That is their purpose there.

Female CEO
Female athlete

It's like and * she is an "athlete" but also female... not she is a CEO, athlete... STUDENT.

No. Parents like me specifically chose this school because it is for girl students. All schools are not for all students. Schools and like Holton and NCS are specifically for girls.

The very small minority is not going to change these single-sex schools. Get over it and go to public school or a coed private school. Not to mention 99% of this is just a fad perpetuated by social media and having an effect on these young girls minds.

You're not following the discussion. OP brought up the point that some of these girls at -- Holton, we presume -- are actively trying to change wording in the school handbook. That is a change that most of us don't want to see. Therefore, this "very small minority" as you refer to it, needs to be shut down.

[Anonymous]

I can tell you right now that this will not fly in any of the all girls schools. I have already spoken to a number of friends with "girls" in public middle school who plan to move them to private all girls to avoid the hysteria. Nobody is going to put up with it. Similar to what happened when Stone Ridge tried to introduce CRT into the curriculum. It got squashed almost immediately by the parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why not call them students instead of girls. And seriously does your handbook really say “girls”, our handbook always said young ladies.

It’s just weird you are stuck on the word girl.

My point is that the school is for females - young ones - who are generally called girls (or young ladies if you prefer.) The point is not the specific word, the point is that the purpose and identity of the school is to educate young females and that it seems ludicrous to try and erase that identity when it is the very purpose of the school.

I think it's ridiculous to box them in. They are in a school, they are students. Period. That is their purpose there.

Female CEO
Female athlete

It's like and * she is an "athlete" but also female... not she is a CEO, athlete... STUDENT.

No. Parents like me specifically chose this school because it is for girl students. All schools are not for all students. Schools and like Holton and NCS are specifically for girls.

The very small minority is not going to change these single-sex schools. Get over it and go to public school or a coed private school. Not to mention 99% of this is just a fad perpetuated by social media and having an effect on these young girls minds.

You're not following the discussion. OP brought up the point that some of these girls at -- Holton, we presume -- are actively trying to change wording in the school handbook. That is a change that most of us don't want to see. Therefore, this "very small minority" as you refer to it, needs to be shut down.

I think you missed the previous poster’s intention. It appears you both agree on the same premise that this small minority should not be allowed to change the verbiage in a handbook or the make up of the student body from all girls to something else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The funniest part about it is all of these girls who think they are railing against the “patriarchy” are trying to join it by identifying his male! They don’t even realize the absurdity of their own statements.

I think there is an element of "if you can't beat them, join them." By middle school, girls are smart enough to see the vast amount of misogyny in the world, and how their male classmates have a better life ahead of them just by virtue of being born with penises. I don't think they are trying to rail against the patriarchy. They are just looking at their options and in many cases being rational.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The funniest part about it is all of these girls who think they are railing against the “patriarchy” are trying to join it by identifying his male! They don’t even realize the absurdity of their own statements.

I think there is an element of "if you can't beat them, join them." By middle school, girls are smart enough to see the vast amount of misogyny in the world, and how their male classmates have a better life ahead of them just by virtue of being born with penises. I don't think they are trying to rail against the patriarchy. They are just looking at their options and in many cases being rational.

This is quite possibly the most bizarre statement I have read on DCUM. If you are a woman, I certainly hope that you don’t tell your own daughters that men (just because they have a penis) are going to have a better life than your daughters. This is outrageous that you would tell your daughters this or even think it yourself.

I am a woman in a mostly male-dominated field. Speaking to my colleagues, I am aware that my salary is on par or higher than the majority of men at my seniority level. I don’t look at myself as a victim. I look at myself as a strong and capable person/woman. I don’t make excuses for myself or see someone else as more valuable or capable because they have a penis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can tell you right now that this will not fly in any of the all girls schools. I have already spoken to a number of friends with "girls" in public middle school who plan to move them to private all girls to avoid the hysteria. Nobody is going to put up with it. Similar to what happened when Stone Ridge tried to introduce CRT into the curriculum. It got squashed almost immediately by the parents.

You'd be very wrong then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The funniest part about it is all of these girls who think they are railing against the “patriarchy” are trying to join it by identifying his male! They don’t even realize the absurdity of their own statements.

I think there is an element of "if you can't beat them, join them." By middle school, girls are smart enough to see the vast amount of misogyny in the world, and how their male classmates have a better life ahead of them just by virtue of being born with penises. I don't think they are trying to rail against the patriarchy. They are just looking at their options and in many cases being rational.

This is quite possibly the most bizarre statement I have read on DCUM. If you are a woman, I certainly hope that you don’t tell your own daughters that men (just because they have a penis) are going to have a better life than your daughters. This is outrageous that you would tell your daughters this or even think it yourself.

I am a woman in a mostly male-dominated field. Speaking to my colleagues, I am aware that my salary is on par or higher than the majority of men at my seniority level. I don’t look at myself as a victim. I look at myself as a strong and capable person/woman. I don’t make excuses for myself or see someone else as more valuable or capable because they have a penis.

You are extremely out of touch with the feelings of middle school girls. Shoot the messenger if you like, but there is a reason why in middle school this is something driven almost entirely by girls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can tell you right now that this will not fly in any of the all girls schools. I have already spoken to a number of friends with "girls" in public middle school who plan to move them to private all girls to avoid the hysteria. Nobody is going to put up with it. Similar to what happened when Stone Ridge tried to introduce CRT into the curriculum. It got squashed almost immediately by the parents.

You'd be very wrong then.

No sweetie, you’re going to be very wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The funniest part about it is all of these girls who think they are railing against the “patriarchy” are trying to join it by identifying his male! They don’t even realize the absurdity of their own statements.

I think there is an element of "if you can't beat them, join them." By middle school, girls are smart enough to see the vast amount of misogyny in the world, and how their male classmates have a better life ahead of them just by virtue of being born with penises. I don't think they are trying to rail against the patriarchy. They are just looking at their options and in many cases being rational.

This is quite possibly the most bizarre statement I have read on DCUM. If you are a woman, I certainly hope that you don’t tell your own daughters that men (just because they have a penis) are going to have a better life than your daughters. This is outrageous that you would tell your daughters this or even think it yourself.

I am a woman in a mostly male-dominated field. Speaking to my colleagues, I am aware that my salary is on par or higher than the majority of men at my seniority level. I don’t look at myself as a victim. I look at myself as a strong and capable person/woman. I don’t make excuses for myself or see someone else as more valuable or capable because they have a penis.

You are extremely out of touch with the feelings of middle school girls. Shoot the messenger if you like, but there is a reason why in middle school this is something driven almost entirely by girls.

Unlike you, I don’t live my life or decisions based on the feelings of 12 - 14 year olds. I base my life and my decisions on facts. Your statement about men having a better life because they have a penis is indeed itself misogynistic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The funniest part about it is all of these girls who think they are railing against the “patriarchy” are trying to join it by identifying his male! They don’t even realize the absurdity of their own statements.

I think there is an element of "if you can't beat them, join them." By middle school, girls are smart enough to see the vast amount of misogyny in the world, and how their male classmates have a better life ahead of them just by virtue of being born with penises. I don't think they are trying to rail against the patriarchy. They are just looking at their options and in many cases being rational.

This is quite possibly the most bizarre statement I have read on DCUM. If you are a woman, I certainly hope that you don’t tell your own daughters that men (just because they have a penis) are going to have a better life than your daughters. This is outrageous that you would tell your daughters this or even think it yourself.

I am a woman in a mostly male-dominated field. Speaking to my colleagues, I am aware that my salary is on par or higher than the majority of men at my seniority level. I don’t look at myself as a victim. I look at myself as a strong and capable person/woman. I don’t make excuses for myself or see someone else as more valuable or capable because they have a penis.

You are extremely out of touch with the feelings of middle school girls. Shoot the messenger if you like, but there is a reason why in middle school this is something driven almost entirely by girls.

Unlike you, I don’t live my life or decisions based on the feelings of 12 - 14 year olds. I base my life and my decisions on facts. Your statement about men having a better life because they have a penis is indeed itself misogynistic.

+1 these people are crazy.