Girl's School and Gender Pronouns

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's sad that "girls" is a bad word now but no boys school is doing anything like this.

Boys schools already call them students.

The student must XYZ, it does not say "boy" that is weird and bizarre.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why not call them students instead of girls. And seriously does your handbook really say “girls”, our handbook always said young ladies.

It’s just weird you are stuck on the word girl.

Because it is a GIRL'S SCHOOL and many people chose it for that reason.

Why is this so hard for people like you to understand?

They choose it because it is a school for students.

Correction. It’s a school for female students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's sad that "girls" is a bad word now but no boys school is doing anything like this.

Boys schools already call them students.

The student must XYZ, it does not say "boy" that is weird and bizarre.

Really? Which one?

[Anonymous]

It’s Holton lol…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why not call them students instead of girls. And seriously does your handbook really say “girls”, our handbook always said young ladies.

It’s just weird you are stuck on the word girl.

My point is that the school is for females - young ones - who are generally called girls (or young ladies if you prefer.) The point is not the specific word, the point is that the purpose and identity of the school is to educate young females and that it seems ludicrous to try and erase that identity when it is the very purpose of the school.

I think it's ridiculous to box them in. They are in a school, they are students. Period. That is their purpose there.

Female CEO
Female athlete

It's like and * she is an "athlete" but also female... not she is a CEO, athlete... STUDENT.

You don’t have the support foe these types of changes. We are liberal and don’t support these changes not do any of my liberal parents. Choose your battles and keep focus on big picture.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why not call them students instead of girls. And seriously does your handbook really say “girls”, our handbook always said young ladies.

It’s just weird you are stuck on the word girl.

Because it is a GIRL'S SCHOOL and many people chose it for that reason.

Why is this so hard for people like you to understand?

They choose it because it is a school for students.

Correction. It’s a school for female students.

Gender is fluid. Just stop all labels and identity politics.

[Anonymous]

OK, I don't quite belong here since my child is in public but I noticed the subject and decided to respond. My 6th grader came home from school and said that they had a substitute, a nice old lady who came into the classroom and said something along the lines: "Good morning, boys and girls". Woke 6th graders went through the roof since the lady, apparently, was transphobic and hurt the feelings of gender-fluid students.

FWIW, the woke ones are always girls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone with children younger than 10 has not fully been exposed to this wide ranging trend. It is ripping through our pre-adolescent and adolescent girls at an incredibly high rate. It is now cool to be bisexual, transgender, and queer. Apparently lesbian and gay are out of fashion. I mean, they get to fly a rainbow flag. How cool is that? I asked my “daughter” what flag do I get to fly and she said the straight flag was black and white. That’s what I get?

I figure if she can get someone else to call her by a different name and use different pronouns, that’s on her. We are just ignoring it at home. This is a child with zero gender issues from birth to age 15.

Still, I wonder what will happen in these girls schools. They will not be insulated from it. As I mentioned above, I hope the schools take a hard stand and mostly ignore it. There’s no way I can remember the preferred pronouns in my daughters circle of (girl)friends. Let alone being a teacher with 100+ kids to remember. If you look like a girl, I will use female pronouns. If you look like a boy, I will use male pronouns. And if we decide as a society we want to update our language then that’s going to take a few years. Pronouns are not offensive by their nature.

Really hoping this far dies out before too many years pass

+1

It's exploded as a big trend in 6th and 7th grade at our parochial school this year also. The girls who suddenly came out as gay/bi and/or trans (though they have to keep wearing the assigned uniform) are generally the same ones who were all in on the VSCO thing a few years ago and are into Tik Tok and social media.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why not call them students instead of girls. And seriously does your handbook really say “girls”, our handbook always said young ladies.

It’s just weird you are stuck on the word girl.

Because it is a GIRL'S SCHOOL and many people chose it for that reason.

Why is this so hard for people like you to understand?

They choose it because it is a school for students.

Correction. It’s a school for female students.

Gender is fluid. Just stop all labels and identity politics.

It’s not fluid to most people. Seriously the movement will lose support and I fear it is already losing support because trying to infringe your beliefs on others pisses people off. I am liberal and progressive but I don’t want you putting your views on me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why not call them students instead of girls. And seriously does your handbook really say “girls”, our handbook always said young ladies.

It’s just weird you are stuck on the word girl.

Because it is a GIRL'S SCHOOL and many people chose it for that reason.

Why is this so hard for people like you to understand?

They choose it because it is a school for students.

Correction. It’s a school for female students.

Gender is fluid. Just stop all labels and identity politics.

There is no biological evidence, whatsoever, that human biology is gender fluid. It's what we properly call crackpot "science" aka fiction. We are male or female. A very tiny number of people believe they are the opposite gender of their bodies, but no one is 30% male and 70% female or start out 100% male and grow into 50% female. That is, to put it politely. b*******.

The failure of schools is to actually teach proper science to the kids instead of letting them persist in some fantasy world that is a consequence of adults abandoning their responsibilities to educate and provide structure to kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why not call them students instead of girls. And seriously does your handbook really say “girls”, our handbook always said young ladies.

It’s just weird you are stuck on the word girl.

Because it is a GIRL'S SCHOOL and many people chose it for that reason.

Why is this so hard for people like you to understand?

They choose it because it is a school for students.

Correction. It’s a school for female students.

Gender is fluid. Just stop all labels and identity politics.

There is no biological evidence, whatsoever, that human biology is gender fluid. It's what we properly call crackpot "science" aka fiction. We are male or female. A very tiny number of people believe they are the opposite gender of their bodies, but no one is 30% male and 70% female or start out 100% male and grow into 50% female. That is, to put it politely. b*******.

The failure of schools is to actually teach proper science to the kids instead of letting them persist in some fantasy world that is a consequence of adults abandoning their responsibilities to educate and provide structure to kids.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's sad that "girls" is a bad word now but no boys school is doing anything like this.

Boys schools already call them students.

The student must XYZ, it does not say "boy" that is weird and bizarre.

What? No, they don't. Schools for boys refer to students as "boys" in their handbooks, policies, and spoken communication. They do not call them "students" (except incidentally) and are certainly not having any conversations about erasing the word "boy" from their communication.

This is only happening with the word "girl" and it is driven by misogyny.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter who attends a very strong local private girls school (one that we have been very happy with) reports that girls in her student government, led by the adult Director of Student Life, are having conversations about how using the terms 'girls' when addressing the students there is 'exclusive' and not gender-identity inclusive. There are discussions about changing the handbook to restrict the use of 'girls,' as well as the Director of Student Life actively advocating to the girls actually taking down school-purchased signs on campus the denote that it is a girls school. While I am left-leaning and certainly think that people should be able to choose their own pronouns, this seems over the top. We chose a girls school precisely for it being one. And we have deeply appreciated the strengths that that her girls school education has provided to her. Has anyone else with a daughter in a girl's school heard about this?

We are at NCS and I have not heard of this. My daughter and friends are very accepting of their fellow LGBTQ and non-binary classmates and it makes me proud. I don’t believe anyone at NCS is trying to make this change and even if they are I don’t think it will be successful as the school was founded by a donation to create a girls’ school. It would not get support and trust me they would not get the much needed financial money they need yearly so sometimes money matters and in this case I think across the board on all political spectrums they would not have the support to make such a change.

That being said I think it is healthy to have the conversations and dialogue as to why some may want these changes. I do not agree but I think it makes me a more understanding person and parent to hear their side.

So, you think that every whim, trend and fad that comes along from the 14 - 17 year old set needs to be awarded with the "conversations and dialogue" status?

You’re an ass. I think it’s part of a community if someone has a feeling about something it’s OK to allow them to express those feelings. You don’t have to shut it down because you think it’s outrageous. Why did you choose a school that doesn’t fit your right wing politics and feelings? Surely there are other school that would have suited you better.

How ironic.

I have a "feeling" that people like you who think it is important to glorify every whim that comes from an immature child is lazy parenting from adults who are too cowardly to provide moral guidance to young people in desperate need of it, and yet I am called an "ass." Sorry, but as a part of the community, I am merely expressing that feeling. How dare you shut this down because you think it's outrageous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My daughter who attends a very strong local private girls school (one that we have been very happy with) reports that girls in her student government, led by the adult Director of Student Life, are having conversations about how using the terms 'girls' when addressing the students there is 'exclusive' and not gender-identity inclusive. There are discussions about changing the handbook to restrict the use of 'girls,' as well as the Director of Student Life actively advocating to the girls actually taking down school-purchased signs on campus the denote that it is a girls school. While I am left-leaning and certainly think that people should be able to choose their own pronouns, this seems over the top. We chose a girls school precisely for it being one. And we have deeply appreciated the strengths that that her girls school education has provided to her. Has anyone else with a daughter in a girl's school heard about this?

We are at NCS and I have not heard of this. My daughter and friends are very accepting of their fellow LGBTQ and non-binary classmates and it makes me proud. I don’t believe anyone at NCS is trying to make this change and even if they are I don’t think it will be successful as the school was founded by a donation to create a girls’ school. It would not get support and trust me they would not get the much needed financial money they need yearly so sometimes money matters and in this case I think across the board on all political spectrums they would not have the support to make such a change.

That being said I think it is healthy to have the conversations and dialogue as to why some may want these changes. I do not agree but I think it makes me a more understanding person and parent to hear their side.

So, you think that every whim, trend and fad that comes along from the 14 - 17 year old set needs to be awarded with the "conversations and dialogue" status?

You’re an ass. I think it’s part of a community if someone has a feeling about something it’s OK to allow them to express those feelings. You don’t have to shut it down because you think it’s outrageous. Why did you choose a school that doesn’t fit your right wing politics and feelings? Surely there are other school that would have suited you better.

How ironic.

I have a "feeling" that people like you who think it is important to glorify every whim that comes from an immature child is lazy parenting from adults who are too cowardly to provide moral guidance to young people in desperate need of it, and yet I am called an "ass." Sorry, but as a part of the community, I am merely expressing that feeling. How dare you shut this down because you think it's outrageous.

Indeed.

[Anonymous]

The funniest part about it is all of these girls who think they are railing against the “patriarchy” are trying to join it by identifying his male! They don’t even realize the absurdity of their own statements.