If your church's doctrine says homosexuality is a sin, but your DC is gay

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Anonymous wrote:My church teaches that homosexuality is not a sin but homosexual acts are. So I would explain that gently and lovingly to my child. She wants to be a nun so it's not like she'd be giving up anything she's not already planning to give up.

That's pretty crazy. What church teaches that BS?

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Anonymous wrote:My church teaches that homosexuality is not a sin but homosexual acts are. So I would explain that gently and lovingly to my child. She wants to be a nun so it's not like she'd be giving up anything she's not already planning to give up.

That's pretty crazy. What church teaches that BS?

All of them.

That’s what every church that has an issue with homosexuality teaches.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the translation is incorrect. I joined a religion not a cult I don’t have to believe everything they teach.

I have a daughter and I don’t think she should “defer” to men.

I don't think you have really joined the religion if you don't believe the doctrine is true. You just joined a social club.

And what’s wrong with that? That’s what churches are.

That's just part of what churches are. Their main role is to provide the sacraments to the faithful and pass down (and correctly interpret) the faith of the apostles.

It depends on the church. I’m pretty sure that the church mentioned above that takes a vote on what is or isn’t a sin is pretty much a bizarre social club.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the translation is incorrect. I joined a religion not a cult I don’t have to believe everything they teach.

I have a daughter and I don’t think she should “defer” to men.

I don't think you have really joined the religion if you don't believe the doctrine is true. You just joined a social club.

I’m not religious but it seems to me you can be part of a religion and disagree with how current leaders are incorrectly interpreting the religion’s rules in some ways. It’s not like these things are immutable.

Agree. Churches change the "how to live" rules set by the church humans all the time.

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Anonymous wrote:My church teaches that homosexuality is not a sin but homosexual acts are. So I would explain that gently and lovingly to my child. She wants to be a nun so it's not like she'd be giving up anything she's not already planning to give up.

That's pretty crazy. What church teaches that BS?

All of them.

That’s what every church that has an issue with homosexuality teaches.

Which is entirely consistent with various churchs' views of human sexuality -- it is for reproduction only. That, of course, is stupid, so almost no one follows that man-made rule.

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Anonymous wrote:If someone could screenshot or link to where it says in the Bible that 2 people of same gender in love are going to hell I would appreciate it.

Minister here. It doesn’t exist.

I must have a different version of the bible.

eviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13

The Book of Leviticus in the Old Testament has two references condemning homosexuality: "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable" (Leviticus 18:22) and "If a man lies with a man as one lies with woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads" (Leviticus 20:13).

There's more in there.

yes in this part of the Bible they are talking to the Jews, the chosen ones, about how to live their life. Leviticus also says not to eat shrimp and pork but I don’t see anyone up in arms about that. It’s literally the same section of the Bible.

this us correct. No idea why Christian’s bring up Leviticus. It’s for the Jewish.

Yep. Jesus made a point of saying his followers didn’t need to follow all the older rules, mostly they just need to love each other and love God.

Romans 1:26-27
Acts 15:29

Jesus said to love one another, he didn't say only love the opposite sex.

Um, he meant platonically. You cannot be serious.

Sexually, he instructed we should be celibate, but if we cannot, we should "marry."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And other members commit all kinds of other sins.

James 2:10 = If you commit one, you commit them all.

I would add that the prohibition against homosexuality didn't even make it into the 10 Commandments. But lying, swearing, saying untrue things about neighbors, or coveting their stuff is in 10 Commandments. Exodus 20.

Ye without sin cast the first stone. John 8:7.

So, that said, I'd keep going to church.

Where exactly did the prohibition of sex for other than reproduction come from?

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Anonymous wrote:My church teaches that homosexuality is not a sin but homosexual acts are. So I would explain that gently and lovingly to my child. She wants to be a nun so it's not like she'd be giving up anything she's not already planning to give up.

That's pretty crazy. What church teaches that BS?

All of them.

That’s what every church that has an issue with homosexuality teaches.

What? I thought churches taught that you could commit adultery by lusting in your MIND. So just thinking of adultery was a sin.....and thinking about homosexual sex is not a sin? What a bunch of BS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the translation is incorrect. I joined a religion not a cult I don’t have to believe everything they teach.

I have a daughter and I don’t think she should “defer” to men.

I don't think you have really joined the religion if you don't believe the doctrine is true. You just joined a social club.

And what’s wrong with that? That’s what churches are.

That's just part of what churches are. Their main role is to provide the sacraments to the faithful and pass down (and correctly interpret) the faith of the apostles.

That is their goal but due to man being imperfect and their interpretations being imperfect it's inane to listen to every doctrine with infallibility. You can listen to the holy spirit through you soul and that gives you all the answers you need, "church"/"doctrine"/"preaching" is just a fallible social construct to gather and worship together, with imperfect teachings sew into the fabric.

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Anonymous wrote:If someone could screenshot or link to where it says in the Bible that 2 people of same gender in love are going to hell I would appreciate it.

Minister here. It doesn’t exist.

I must have a different version of the bible.

eviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13

The Book of Leviticus in the Old Testament has two references condemning homosexuality: "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable" (Leviticus 18:22) and "If a man lies with a man as one lies with woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads" (Leviticus 20:13).

There's more in there.

yes in this part of the Bible they are talking to the Jews, the chosen ones, about how to live their life. Leviticus also says not to eat shrimp and pork but I don’t see anyone up in arms about that. It’s literally the same section of the Bible.

this us correct. No idea why Christian’s bring up Leviticus. It’s for the Jewish.

Yep. Jesus made a point of saying his followers didn’t need to follow all the older rules, mostly they just need to love each other and love God.

Romans 1:26-27
Acts 15:29

Jesus said to love one another, he didn't say only love the opposite sex.

Um, he meant platonically. You cannot be serious.

Sexually, he instructed we should be celibate, but if we cannot, we should "marry."

So as long as gay couples marry, they shouldn't be going against church doctrine. Got it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If someone could screenshot or link to where it says in the Bible that 2 people of same gender in love are going to hell I would appreciate it.

Minister here. It doesn’t exist.

I must have a different version of the bible.

eviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13

The Book of Leviticus in the Old Testament has two references condemning homosexuality: "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable" (Leviticus 18:22) and "If a man lies with a man as one lies with woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads" (Leviticus 20:13).

There's more in there.

yes in this part of the Bible they are talking to the Jews, the chosen ones, about how to live their life. Leviticus also says not to eat shrimp and pork but I don’t see anyone up in arms about that. It’s literally the same section of the Bible.

this us correct. No idea why Christian’s bring up Leviticus. It’s for the Jewish.

Yep. Jesus made a point of saying his followers didn’t need to follow all the older rules, mostly they just need to love each other and love God.

Romans 1:26-27
Acts 15:29

Jesus said to love one another, he didn't say only love the opposite sex.

Um, he meant platonically. You cannot be serious.

Sexually, he instructed we should be celibate, but if we cannot, we should "marry."

Did He though? Actually, wasn't it Paul who wrote that in a letter, saying also that it wasn't a command, but his recommendation, and that really he thought everyone should be single and celibate like him, but he also conceded that wasn't likely?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If someone could screenshot or link to where it says in the Bible that 2 people of same gender in love are going to hell I would appreciate it.

Minister here. It doesn’t exist.

I must have a different version of the bible.

eviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13

The Book of Leviticus in the Old Testament has two references condemning homosexuality: "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable" (Leviticus 18:22) and "If a man lies with a man as one lies with woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads" (Leviticus 20:13).

There's more in there.

yes in this part of the Bible they are talking to the Jews, the chosen ones, about how to live their life. Leviticus also says not to eat shrimp and pork but I don’t see anyone up in arms about that. It’s literally the same section of the Bible.

this us correct. No idea why Christian’s bring up Leviticus. It’s for the Jewish.

Yep. Jesus made a point of saying his followers didn’t need to follow all the older rules, mostly they just need to love each other and love God.

Romans 1:26-27
Acts 15:29

Jesus said to love one another, he didn't say only love the opposite sex.

Um, he meant platonically. You cannot be serious.

Sexually, he instructed we should be celibate, but if we cannot, we should "marry."

So as long as gay couples marry, they shouldn't be going against church doctrine. Got it.

I kind of agree with you here. Homosexuality now isn’t exactly what it was in Ancient Rome.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My church teaches that homosexuality is not a sin but homosexual acts are. So I would explain that gently and lovingly to my child. She wants to be a nun so it's not like she'd be giving up anything she's not already planning to give up.

That's pretty crazy. What church teaches that BS?

All of them.

That’s what every church that has an issue with homosexuality teaches.

What? I thought churches taught that you could commit adultery by lusting in your MIND. So just thinking of adultery was a sin.....and thinking about homosexual sex is not a sin? What a bunch of BS.

How does this make no sense to you? Wanting to do something and actually doing it are not the same thing.

a). Not lusting after your neighbor’s wife and not committing adultery are two separate commandments. They aren’t the same thing.

b) I don’t think we are talking about married people here.
It’s not a sin to want to be with someone when you are both single.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My church teaches that homosexuality is not a sin but homosexual acts are. So I would explain that gently and lovingly to my child. She wants to be a nun so it's not like she'd be giving up anything she's not already planning to give up.

That's pretty crazy. What church teaches that BS?

All of them.

That’s what every church that has an issue with homosexuality teaches.

What? I thought churches taught that you could commit adultery by lusting in your MIND. So just thinking of adultery was a sin.....and thinking about homosexual sex is not a sin? What a bunch of BS.

How does this make no sense to you? Wanting to do something and actually doing it are not the same thing.

a). Not lusting after your neighbor’s wife and not committing adultery are two separate commandments. They aren’t the same thing.

b) I don’t think we are talking about married people here.
It’s not a sin to want to be with someone when you are both single.

In b) lust is lust. You should think about someone because you love them not because you lust them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My church teaches that homosexuality is not a sin but homosexual acts are. So I would explain that gently and lovingly to my child. She wants to be a nun so it's not like she'd be giving up anything she's not already planning to give up.

That's pretty crazy. What church teaches that BS?

All of them.

That’s what every church that has an issue with homosexuality teaches.

What? I thought churches taught that you could commit adultery by lusting in your MIND. So just thinking of adultery was a sin.....and thinking about homosexual sex is not a sin? What a bunch of BS.

How does this make no sense to you? Wanting to do something and actually doing it are not the same thing.

a). Not lusting after your neighbor’s wife and not committing adultery are two separate commandments. They aren’t the same thing.

b) I don’t think we are talking about married people here.
It’s not a sin to want to be with someone when you are both single.

In b) lust is lust. You should think about someone because you love them not because you lust them.

I’m guessing that you haven’t been married long.