If your church's doctrine says homosexuality is a sin, but your DC is gay

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Anonymous wrote:As someone with a gay son, I find the "church's" teachings to be horrific, inhumane, and valueless. I put "church" in quotes because it really depends on what religious teachings you follow. Your mileage may vary. Some churches are wonderful. Many are terrible. I would simply avoid the terrible.

Yes, I look for churches to validate my desire for multiple wives. That's why I became Muslim and I've not been happier. it is so important to be validated. the purposes of religion is not to teach it is to validate my own cravings.

If that's intended to be an analogy, I don't think you know what an analogy is.

I'm hoping - and assuming - that it's meant as satire.

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Anonymous wrote:Your son must live a chaste life; this is a burden but his suffering is a special offering.

This is exactly what I’m talking about. Unfortunately, Leviticus 18:22 is alive and well and, unfortunately, many Christians want to close their eyes to this sad fact.

You don't even need to go to Levitical law to justify this. God's law is self evident at creation when he made Adam and Eve.

A lot of people who have acquired disordered passions have to (or should, rather) deny themselves. It's not some horrific suffering unique to homosexuality, sorry folks. Love your kid, but you have to be on God's side.

Yuck. You are an awful person.

Life is short. Love is love.

See this is the difference between you and Christians. We believe that life is eternal and that while short, mortality is a time of faith and testing, not a time to "make hay while the sun shines." We are asked to use our time on earth to become more like Jesus Christ every day. That means loving people who break God's commandments, while still expecting ourselves and others to keep them. We also believe that God gave us commandments to maximize our happiness on an eternal horizon.

This is what I don’t understand. You say our time on Earth is short. But it goes well beyond “short.” The afterlife is eternal. Let’s say we live 80 years. What percentage of eternity is 80 years? It’s not short, it’s undefined. It doesn’t exist. If the afterlife is eternal and we spent 80 years on Earth, in fact we spent no time on Earth.

I just said that, basically.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your son must live a chaste life; this is a burden but his suffering is a special offering.

This is exactly what I’m talking about. Unfortunately, Leviticus 18:22 is alive and well and, unfortunately, many Christians want to close their eyes to this sad fact.

You don't even need to go to Levitical law to justify this. God's law is self evident at creation when he made Adam and Eve.

A lot of people who have acquired disordered passions have to (or should, rather) deny themselves. It's not some horrific suffering unique to homosexuality, sorry folks. Love your kid, but you have to be on God's side.

Yuck. You are an awful person.

Life is short. Love is love.

See this is the difference between you and Christians. We believe that life is eternal and that while short, mortality is a time of faith and testing, not a time to "make hay while the sun shines." We are asked to use our time on earth to become more like Jesus Christ every day. That means loving people who break God's commandments, while still expecting ourselves and others to keep them. We also believe that God gave us commandments to maximize our happiness on an eternal horizon.

This is what I don’t understand. You say our time on Earth is short. But it goes well beyond “short.” The afterlife is eternal. Let’s say we live 80 years. What percentage of eternity is 80 years? It’s not short, it’s undefined. It doesn’t exist. If the afterlife is eternal and we spent 80 years on Earth, in fact we spent no time on Earth.

I just said that, basically.

Uh, yeah, BASICALLY.

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Anonymous wrote:If someone could screenshot or link to where it says in the Bible that 2 people of same gender in love are going to hell I would appreciate it.

Minister here. It doesn’t exist.

I must have a different version of the bible.

eviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13

The Book of Leviticus in the Old Testament has two references condemning homosexuality: "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable" (Leviticus 18:22) and "If a man lies with a man as one lies with woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads" (Leviticus 20:13).

There's more in there.

LOL. It’s the stuff you are leaving out that’s the issue. Divorce is condemned far more than homosexuality. So is eating pork, mixing meat and milk, working on the sabbath and shatnez - mixing wool and linen in a garment. You’re also silent on the things that are condoned - incest( Genesis 20:12), slavery, genocide, and killing your children when they are disobedient (Deuteronomy 21:18-21).

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Anonymous wrote:If someone could screenshot or link to where it says in the Bible that 2 people of same gender in love are going to hell I would appreciate it.

Minister here. It doesn’t exist.

I must have a different version of the bible.

eviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13

The Book of Leviticus in the Old Testament has two references condemning homosexuality: "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable" (Leviticus 18:22) and "If a man lies with a man as one lies with woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads" (Leviticus 20:13).

There's more in there.

LOL. It’s the stuff you are leaving out that’s the issue. Divorce is condemned far more than homosexuality. So is eating pork, mixing meat and milk, working on the sabbath and shatnez - mixing wool and linen in a garment. You’re also silent on the things that are condoned - incest( Genesis 20:12), slavery, genocide, and killing your children when they are disobedient (Deuteronomy 21:18-21).

Sounds like you are confusing laws about diet with the constant theme about sexual immorality
Slavery is slowed in the bible, as it is in the quaran

Those were not issues of the day. Slavery has not been done away with

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Anonymous wrote:We are not our kids. We can love them and still have our own beliefs. We can honor what they do good in the world and caution against other activities but once they are adults they are responsible for their own choices and saving their own soul.

My thoughts exactly. I would love my child anyway and would not treat them any different.