NYC to Give Voting Rights to Noncitizens

[Anonymous]

Click the link and look at the form used by Chevy Chase.

TO REGISTER USING THIS FORM, YOU MUST:
 Be a resident of the Town of Chevy Chase, Maryland;
 Be legally authorized to reside in the United States;
[Etc.]

IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR NON-UNITED STATES CITIZENS:
If you apply for naturalization, you will be asked whether you have ever registered or voted in a federal, state, or local election in the United States. The Town Office can provide a letter explaining that non-U.S. citizens who are residents of the Town of Chevy Chase may register and vote in Town of Chevy Chase municipal elections.
Please be aware that registering to vote or voting in jurisdictions other than the Town of Chevy Chase may result in adverse immigration consequences for a non-U.S. citizen.

Anonymous wrote:TOWN OF CHEVY CHASE, MARYLAND NON-U.S. CITIZEN
RESIDENT VOTER REGISTRATION APPLICATION

https://www.townofchevychase.org/DocumentCenter/View/2876/TOCC-Voter-Registration-Application-final

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All in all, I think it is a very near sighted development which won’t bring many new voters (let alone “millions” like they are hoping) but will cost democrats many votes of citizens.
They should really stop with all the radical virtue signaling stuff if they want to win in 22 and 24.

Radical virtue signaling?
Shouldn't the residents of a community have any say in how it's being governed? They too, pay taxes, contribute and have a stake in the community.

What's more radical here is your apparent racism and xenophobia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All in all, I think it is a very near sighted development which won’t bring many new voters (let alone “millions” like they are hoping) but will cost democrats many votes of citizens.
They should really stop with all the radical virtue signaling stuff if they want to win in 22 and 24.

Radical virtue signaling?
Shouldn't the residents of a community have any say in how it's being governed? They too, pay taxes, contribute and have a stake in the community.

What's more radical here is your apparent racism and xenophobia.

I was an expat for a long time in other countries and never demanded voting rights. After all, why? I wasn't a citizen, even if I paid taxes.

Citizenship isn't a right. It's a privilege. People too easily forget it.

As it is, in the UK non citizens can vote in local council elections, but not national elections for Parliament.

[Anonymous]

Rep. Nicole Malliotakis, R-N.Y., announced on Sunday that she had obtained a copy of a contract between New York City’s Department of Social Services and Homes for the Homeless, a nonprofit that has been contracted to build emergency migrant shelters as the border crisis depletes the city’s resources.

In an appendix of that contract, a copy of which was obtained by Fox News Digital, the city appears to require contractors to provide copies of voter registration forms for migrants at their shelters, Malliotakis said.

The city has denied that it requires migrant shelters to provide voter registration information to illegal immigrants.

A section of the appendix states that contractors who have "regular contact with the public in the daily administration of its business" must "provide and distribute voter registration forms to all persons together with written applications for services, renewal, or recertification for services and change of address relating to such services."

"Such voter registration forms shall be provided to the Contractor by the City. The Contractor should be prepared to provide forms written in Spanish or Chinese, and shall obtain a sufficient supply of such forms from the City," the file stated.

Another section of the same appendix appears to forbid the shelter from inquiring about immigration status unless specifically required.

However, a spokesperson for the NYC Department of Social Services told Fox News Digital that the provision applies to "eligible clients" in shelter housing.

"These allegations are false and baseless. DHS is legally required to include language around voter registration in shelter contracts and this guidance applies only to eligible clients who are citizens, and would clearly not apply to asylum seekers in shelter," the spokesperson said.

The City Council passed a law in 2021 to allow noncitizen residents to vote in local elections, but it was overturned by a New York state judge in July 2022.

[Anonymous]

One has to wonder why Adams is so anxious to allow noncitizens to vote.

The Adams administration is mulling its next steps on noncitizen voting in New York City after a state appeals court on Wednesday ruled that the plan violates the state Constitution.

Paul Wooten, an associate justice of the Appellate Division for the state’s Second Judicial Department, upheld a 2022 decision by a Richmond County Supreme Court judge striking down the law. The appeals court weighed in on the case following an appeal from Mayor Eric Adams’ administration; it’s not clear whether Adams would pursue another appeal.

“We determine that this local law was enacted in violation of the New York State Constitution and Municipal Home Rule Law, and thus, must be declared null and void,” Wooten wrote, in the ruling.

Specifically, Wooten led a three-to-one ruling siding with the lower court in determining that when the state Constitution says “every citizen shall be entitled to vote at every election for all officers elected by the people,” it is only referring to US citizens and does not include non-citizens. Furthermore, they found the City Council’s passage of non-citizen voting violated the Home Rule Law, because it stipulates that local elections can only be changed through ballot referendums.

City Law Department spokesperson Nicholas Paolucci, in a statement, said the city is “reviewing the court’s decision and evaluating next steps.”

[Anonymous]

NYC deserves all of the stupidity it is about to get.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NYC deserves all of the stupidity it is about to get.

+1
It is beyond bizarre that Adams is still pushing this nonsense - especially after NYC has been inundated with illegal immigrants. What is he thinking? And what are the voters thinking?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From the article:

It would also cover “Dreamers" like Eva Santos, 32, who was brought to the U.S. by her parents at age 11 as an unauthorized immigrant, but wasn't able to vote like her friends or go to college when she turned 18.

“It was really hard for me to see how my other friends were able to make decisions for their future, and I couldn’t,” said Santos, now a community organizer.

More than a dozen communities across the United States currently allow noncitizens to vote, including 11 towns in Maryland and two in Vermont.

Will we be seeing more of this in the DMV? Sounds like it’s mostly just for local elections anyway.

https://news.yahoo.com/york-city-poised-voting-rights-061311911.html

Good. More votes for Dems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NYC deserves all of the stupidity it is about to get.

+1
It is beyond bizarre that Adams is still pushing this nonsense - especially after NYC has been inundated with illegal immigrants. What is he thinking? And what are the voters thinking?

+2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NYC deserves all of the stupidity it is about to get.

+1
It is beyond bizarre that Adams is still pushing this nonsense - especially after NYC has been inundated with illegal immigrants. What is he thinking? And what are the voters thinking?

As the poster after you said...... More votes for Dems. That is what he is thinking.

[Anonymous]

I’m quite liberal and am 💯 against giving non-citizens voting rights, anywhere. It basically dilutes the need to ever provide a pathway to citizenship. What a waste of energy on NYC Dems when they could be working to flip the US House and get real legislation. So F-ing shortsighted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All in all, I think it is a very near sighted development which won’t bring many new voters (let alone “millions” like they are hoping) but will cost democrats many votes of citizens.
They should really stop with all the radical virtue signaling stuff if they want to win in 22 and 24.

Radical virtue signaling?
Shouldn't the residents of a community have any say in how it's being governed? They too, pay taxes, contribute and have a stake in the community.

What's more radical here is your apparent racism and xenophobia.

Illegals are not residents. They are awaiting court cases to be deported if they show up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So what are the requirements then? Residency? Or can each candidate bus in a boat load of supporter to get elected?

The same as for citizens. You have to prove that you live there. The only difference is citizenship. Why would you think otherwise? Noncitizen residents work, pay taxes and have to deal with every kind of public policy, programs, schools, law enforcement, etc.

Try not to be quite so stupid. Non citizens by and large do not pay taxes yet benefit from the programs that taxes fund like education, law enforcement, etc. Now go back to gnawing on your government cheese, dummy.

DP here. Sounds like you’re the dummy. Non-citizens absolutely do pay taxes. My family immigrated here legally and had to pay taxes for decades before becoming US citizens.

My grandmother moved here from another country and got free medical care and money from the government for decades. I can own that this happens. You should try.

I confirm this. Many elderly people move here via family reunification and get free medical care, food stamps, and subsidized housing. Esp in CA and NY.

But then they are by definition joining a family that does pay taxes.

Not the same as paying into SS your whole life and then collecting from it.

I live in the suburbs and there seems to be a growing population of older Chinese immigrants nearby, as I’ve noticed hanging out near public housing and food distribution lines. Has it always been this way or is this an uptick? They don’t seem to have families taking care of them.

[Anonymous]

NYC has many foreign property owners who likely want a say in the local government’s making laws that affect them.

[Anonymous]

It's not just for local elections though as state and federal elections often happen at the same time - such as for presidential elections.

So how will that work - just ask the non-citizen voter to use the honor system and only vote for the local issues/candidates?