NYC to Give Voting Rights to Noncitizens

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Anonymous wrote:Only the US is stupid enough to do this crap.


Actually Scotland and Wales do this too


Two world powers, eh?


Which country would you see doing it and think, "hey, if they do it, maybe we should"? I'm guessing none.


None. I think voting is a privilege that should be reserved for citizens. I’m not sure when that became a controversial idea.


Ok, but it's not just the US that is "stupid enough to do this crap". Own your opinions.


DP

I think the point is that most countries require you to be a citizen if you want to vote in elections.

What is the policy exactly in Scotland and Wales? How many undocumented immigrants live in those two countries? Can they vote in any election?

The article says that 1 in 9 residents of NYC are non-citizens. That is quite a large number.


And here I thought conservatives valued self reliance and hard work. LOL. Look it up yourself.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Only the US is stupid enough to do this crap.


Actually Scotland and Wales do this too


Two world powers, eh?


Which country would you see doing it and think, "hey, if they do it, maybe we should"? I'm guessing none.


None. I think voting is a privilege that should be reserved for citizens. I’m not sure when that became a controversial idea.


Ok, but it's not just the US that is "stupid enough to do this crap". Own your opinions.


DP

I think the point is that most countries require you to be a citizen if you want to vote in elections.

What is the policy exactly in Scotland and Wales? How many undocumented immigrants live in those two countries? Can they vote in any election?

The article says that 1 in 9 residents of NYC are non-citizens. That is quite a large number.


And here I thought conservatives valued self reliance and hard work. LOL. Look it up yourself.


Now THAT is a much more sociable (and less angry/crazy) reply.
Anonymous
Can children and non residents vote too?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Can children and non residents vote too?


Wouldn’t you need to be 18 to vote?
Anonymous
Then they deserve what they will soon get.
Anonymous
So what are the requirements then? Residency? Or can each candidate bus in a boat load of supporter to get elected?
Anonymous
No, this is not a good idea.

These types of ideas are part of what is driving all of the wedges in this country. This is going to become a huge talking point on Fox and it will be used to whip up their viewers. Doesn't matter it's only in New York City, this will now become a hot button issue.

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Anonymous wrote:No, this is not a good idea.

These types of ideas are part of what is driving all of the wedges in this country. This is going to become a huge talking point on Fox and it will be used to whip up their viewers. Doesn't matter it's only in New York City, this will now become a hot button issue.



The article mentions that it’s not just NYC. This has been something that voters are pushing for in progressive, liberal areas.

I don’t watch Fox, but NYC and California are Democrat strongholds and this is clearly something that Democrat voters support.
Anonymous
This is a bad idea and as a Democrat I think it cheapens the often hard fought path to citizenship for many immigrants who work hard to gain that right through citizenship. Man, my party is pretty bad with strategy. This is going to backfire big time. One more talking point for Cheeto in the next primary.
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*general not primary
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So what are the requirements then? Residency? Or can each candidate bus in a boat load of supporter to get elected?


The same as for citizens. You have to prove that you live there. The only difference is citizenship. Why would you think otherwise? Noncitizen residents work, pay taxes and have to deal with every kind of public policy, programs, schools, law enforcement, etc.
Anonymous
Chevy Chase allows noncitizen residents to vote. It seems okay for them.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Can children and non residents vote too?


Wouldn’t you need to be 18 to vote?


That could change too.
Maybe they’ll let people purchase additional votes.
Absolutely nothing is off the table.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:So what are the requirements then? Residency? Or can each candidate bus in a boat load of supporter to get elected?


The same as for citizens. You have to prove that you live there. The only difference is citizenship. Why would you think otherwise? Noncitizen residents work, pay taxes and have to deal with every kind of public policy, programs, schools, law enforcement, etc.


Try not to be quite so stupid. Non citizens by and large do not pay taxes yet benefit from the programs that taxes fund like education, law enforcement, etc. Now go back to gnawing on your government cheese, dummy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:From the article:

It would also cover “Dreamers" like Eva Santos, 32, who was brought to the U.S. by her parents at age 11 as an unauthorized immigrant, but wasn't able to vote like her friends or go to college when she turned 18.

“It was really hard for me to see how my other friends were able to make decisions for their future, and I couldn’t,” said Santos, now a community organizer.

More than a dozen communities across the United States currently allow noncitizens to vote, including 11 towns in Maryland and two in Vermont.

Will we be seeing more of this in the DMV? Sounds like it’s mostly just for local elections anyway.

https://news.yahoo.com/york-city-poised-voting-rights-061311911.html


The legislation https://legistar.council.nyc.gov/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=4313327&GUID=DF600BDA-B675-41D8-A8BD-282C38DC4C62&Options=ID%7cText%7c&Search=1867

1507 ee "7. The following spaces to be filled in by the applicant:

(a). Space to indicate whether the applicant is a lawful permanent resident or is authorized to work in the United states and the statement “If you checked “no” in response to this question, do not complete this form.”

30 days with an address in NYC and authorized to work in the USA? UN is in NYC. I guess they all will now get to vote in the municpal elections of a major US City. Too funny and the real objection came from a politician cncened about the dilution of the AA, long term multi-genational, US citizens.
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