Roger Stone's Time in the Barrel

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Anonymous wrote:What is the potential sentence?

45 years.

And right now, they are asking the judge to detain Roger Stone rather than remain free until his sentencing on February 6th. He'll be Epstein'd.

Trump says he does not know the guy...

You're joking, right? Trump hasn't actually said that?

He said that about Sondland, who had his personal cell phone number and was calling him in the middle of the night. And revised his testimony. Speaking of lying to Congress.

He also said it about Lev and Igor - I can't remember which one of them flipped? But I think he's got some good stuff to say about detailed conversations with Trump.

Lev is the one who flipped.

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Funny how that worked out.

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^ oh snap!

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And now that sick old sack of bones is headed for prison.

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A reminder

https://www.justsecurity.org/62174/pardon-furthers-conspiracy-limits-pardon-power/

Not only are presidential pardons unable to protect against state criminal charges and federal civil suits, but they also cannot protect against federal criminal liability if they are in furtherance of a conspiracy to obstruct justice. Not welcome news for those desperately seeks to avoid accountability for their actions.

Trump associates who have shunned or are considering shunning plea deals in the hopes of securing a presidential pardon would do well to consider a twist on an old maxim: it’s not the crime, it’s the cover-up that continues that crime.

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Is he actually going to serve any time?

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Anonymous wrote:A reminder

https://www.justsecurity.org/62174/pardon-furthers-conspiracy-limits-pardon-power/

Not only are presidential pardons unable to protect against state criminal charges and federal civil suits, but they also cannot protect against federal criminal liability if they are in furtherance of a conspiracy to obstruct justice. Not welcome news for those desperately seeks to avoid accountability for their actions.

Trump associates who have shunned or are considering shunning plea deals in the hopes of securing a presidential pardon would do well to consider a twist on an old maxim: it’s not the crime, it’s the cover-up that continues that crime.

sounds here, though, like Trump was allowed to pardon Arpaio for future crimes?

Note, however, that in his pardon of Joe Arpaio for criminal contempt stemming from his violation of people’s constitutional rights, Trump included ambiguous language that could be read as an illegal attempt to pardon future conduct. Trump pardoned Arpaio for his criminal contempt charge and “for any other offenses…that might arise, or be charged, in connection with Melendres v. Arpaio.” (Emphasis added).

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That did not age well.

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Anonymous wrote:Is he actually going to serve any time?

One hopes.

But that many charges? You’ve got to think he’ll serve a chunk.

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In the Post article:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/roger-stone-jury-weighs-evidence-and-a-defense-move-to-make-case-about-mueller/2019/11/15/554fff5a-06ff-11ea-8292-c46ee8cb3dce_story.html

Michael Caputo, a Stone friend, was kicked out of the courtroom for refusing to stand for the jury after the verdict and — when ordered to do so — turning his back to the panel.

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Anonymous wrote:Is he actually going to serve any time?

One hopes.

But that many charges? You’ve got to think he’ll serve a chunk.

Sentencing in February and he’s free until then. I assume the gag order continues?

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Roger Stone deserves 7 to 9 years prison for lying to Congress in Russia probe, U.S. says in sentencing recommendation for Trump confidant
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/trump-confidant-roger-stone-deserves-7-to-9-years-in-prison-for-lying-to-congress-prosecutors-say-in-new-filing/2020/02/10/90bc6e9a-4906-11ea-9164-d3154ad8a5cd_story.html#click=https://t.co/WMFnO6vBXi

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The guidelines confirm that Erik Prince lied to congress about the Seychelles meetings with Putin ally Dmitriev, the August 2016 meeting with Nader, Trump Jr, Zamel and, WikiLeaks.

How is he not in jail?

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Anonymous wrote:The guidelines confirm that Erik Prince lied to congress about the Seychelles meetings with Putin ally Dmitriev, the August 2016 meeting with Nader, Trump Jr, Zamel and, WikiLeaks.

How is he not in jail?

Perhaps that was one of the Mueller investigations that was spun off, and then presumably squelched by Barr.