What SHOULD Dems do?

[Anonymous]

No on e-verify. We cannot dehumanize migrants in an immoral attempt to curry favor with redneck voters. What we need is a to citizenship for those already here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No on e-verify. We cannot dehumanize migrants in an immoral attempt to curry favor with redneck voters. What we need is a to citizenship for those already here.

Even if dems lose all the hispanic vote?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are so many of us in this thread so mad about having to acknowledge errors or apologize to voters? We’re not trying to win a slap fight against Republicans to determine what’s fair. We’re trying to win back power by winning back voters.

When Trump voters acknowledge they fell for propaganda and lies, I’ll consider what Dems did wrong. Until then, I’ll actively working to save democracy. You know what brings clarity? Action, not thinking.

Social Security is a ponzi scheme. Does that count?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are so many of us in this thread so mad about having to acknowledge errors or apologize to voters? We’re not trying to win a slap fight against Republicans to determine what’s fair. We’re trying to win back power by winning back voters.

When Trump voters acknowledge they fell for propaganda and lies, I’ll consider what Dems did wrong. Until then, I’ll actively working to save democracy. You know what brings clarity? Action, not thinking.

Social Security is a ponzi scheme. Does that count?

Nope, you’re a full-on MAGA mouth breather.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What actions do you have in mind?

The action I’m proposing is getting is giving the voters what they want, both now in government and in a new policy platform for the campaign trail. My proposed action is, try to win elections.

What are your proposed actions?

Do you know anything about American resistance history or are you just imaginative? I’m writing GOP reps, protesting, boycotting, donating to the media and civil rights groups, boosting Dem content on sm, leaning in to my local community, gathering informational resources, and on.

[Anonymous]

*unimaginative, obvs. ^^

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No on e-verify. We cannot dehumanize migrants in an immoral attempt to curry favor with redneck voters. What we need is a to citizenship for those already here.

Even if dems lose all the hispanic vote?

Yes. First of all, we won’t lose all the hispanic vote, second, we’ll lose most of religious hispanic vote over time anyway for reasons unrelated to the border, third, migrants and their kids become voters eventually, fourth, migrants aren’t just hispanic.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What actions do you have in mind?

The action I’m proposing is getting is giving the voters what they want, both now in government and in a new policy platform for the campaign trail. My proposed action is, try to win elections.

What are your proposed actions?
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Do you know anything about American resistance history or are you just imaginative? I’m writing GOP reps, protesting, boycotting, donating to the media and civil rights groups, boosting Dem content on sm, leaning in to my local community, gathering informational resources, and on. [/quote]

It seems backward looking and counter-productive. The last decade of “resistance history” against Trump has helped to put us in a very deep hole. Does “resisting” deportations and bureaucrat layoffs endear us to the voters? We need ti win the long-term future more than we need to slightly slow down the party in power in tje short-term by “standing with” migrants, bureaucrats., and trans folks. So far it feels like we’re falling into Republican traps, just like we’ve been doing fir a decade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No on e-verify. We cannot dehumanize migrants in an immoral attempt to curry favor with redneck voters. What we need is a to citizenship for those already here.

Why do you consider Americans more human than citizens of other countries?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What actions do you have in mind?

The action I’m proposing is getting is giving the voters what they want, both now in government and in a new policy platform for the campaign trail. My proposed action is, try to win elections.

What are your proposed actions?

How do you propose getting through to voters in rural areas whose only news outlet is AM talk radio, and they’ve been told for thirty years that Democrats are devil worshippers?

How do you propose getting through to college kids who listen exclusively to Andrew Tate and Joe Rogan?

How do you propose getting through to a voter who doesn’t watch TV or listen to news or follow politics at all, but they think Trump is funny and tells it like it is?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I honestly don’t think there IS much to do.

Either the courts and/or Congress needs to stop the bleeding

I know Congress won’t, and the courts? We’ll see if there is any way for rulings to actually be enforceable

The 2 official ways to get rid of king Don-old are Impeachment or 25th. The current clowns won’t do it

Sadly, the bleak truth is our only actual way to stop this is war.

I wish there was another way. Truly.

If Democrats were willing to offer voters the policies they want, they could win the old fashioned way—voting. But what Dems aim to do is not what the voters want. Which leaves Democrats with only one option: war.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What actions do you have in mind?

The action I’m proposing is getting is giving the voters what they want, both now in government and in a new policy platform for the campaign trail. My proposed action is, try to win elections.

What are your proposed actions?

How do you propose getting through to voters in rural areas whose only news outlet is AM talk radio, and they’ve been told for thirty years that Democrats are devil worshippers?

How do you propose getting through to college kids who listen exclusively to Andrew Tate and Joe Rogan?

How do you propose getting through to a voter who doesn’t watch TV or listen to news or follow politics at all, but they think Trump is funny and tells it like it is?

Rural voters know exactly what the New York Times perspective is. It’s ubiquitous. It is we who live in a media bubble, by choice. Most of us avoid conservative media like the plague as a matter of purity principle.

Rural voters (and swing voters of all kinds) have a good understanding of what our party offers. They just don’t want it.

So we can either change, in hopes of winning more votes (and elections), or we can stay pure with our unpopular policies and remain the minority party.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are so many of us in this thread so mad about having to acknowledge errors or apologize to voters? We’re not trying to win a slap fight against Republicans to determine what’s fair. We’re trying to win back power by winning back voters.

Apologies won't work and they won't help. The GOP has done far worse over many decades and they NEVER apologize. Not hurting them. Why should we give them ammo they will twist and use to plunge their knife of lies deeper and deeper.

No weakness. We need strong leaders right now to be out there, meeting with voters and focusing on (1) the GOP's incompetence and overreach and (2) the work Dems will do for voters. No flowery language or rhetoric. No lecturing. Simple slogans that appeal to people on basic issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No on e-verify. We cannot dehumanize migrants in an immoral attempt to curry favor with redneck voters. What we need is a to citizenship for those already here.

you will never win another election.

[Anonymous]

But what work will we do for voters? They seem not to have enjoyed our recent work. And according to the most thorough polling and analytics done by Democrats, voters trust Republicans more than Democrats on all the issues voters consider most important. What are the policies we propose to sell using simple slogans?