What SHOULD Dems do?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Dems need to, as Ezra Klein put it, face why Trump won.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/democrats-need-to-face-why-trump-won/id1548604447?i=1000699618199

They need to stop their need for political purity and their resulting in-fighting. It's ridiculous to call for Schumer's resignation. It's the same as the GOP calling for judges to be impeached.

They need to refocus their message on the working class. The people barely surviving through a gig economy, with inflation and possibly stagflation coming their way. They need to look at whole systems to understand why there are housing shortages and not primarily focus on helping the most vulnerable. Don't stop helping them, but that can't be your main messaging. Your messaging has to be we are all in this together. Let's create opportunity for all, so that all can thrive.

You have to stop demonizing whole classes of people. Police, white men, Karens. Republicans themselves. It feels good. I get it. I feel it too. But you are alienating half the nation. We talk about being inclusive. Walk the walk. Include those you disagree with. Make genuine room for diversity of perspective too.



Dems need to let folks feel the consequences of this action. America have grown complacent in civic responsibility, entitled, need to constant be vigilant of its checks and balances, which include the American people themselves. Many don’t know how government operates and don’t understand at which level of government they should seek change for things. If this level of chaos and destruction is what Americans want then it will continue. If not, then Americans will do the soul searching needed and take the necessary steps to retain their democracy.

The American experiment is 250 years old. It will either rise this opportunity to change and experience a rebirth or fade into history like many empires before.
Anonymous
When will the Dems find people to play the propaganda game as well as the GOP. We have to embrace the new reality. We have to reach them on their phones and appeal to their emotions.
Anonymous
I honestly don’t think there IS much to do.

Either the courts and/or Congress needs to stop the bleeding

I know Congress won’t, and the courts? We’ll see if there is any way for rulings to actually be enforceable

The 2 official ways to get rid of king Don-old are Impeachment or 25th. The current clowns won’t do it

Sadly, the bleak truth is our only actual way to stop this is war.

I wish there was another way. Truly.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:January 6th is everything to me


I was traumatized by that and can't fathom how the Republicans rationalize it.


The most common class signaling we do is to pretend that we “can’t even fathom” what middle class voters are thinking. HOW can they possibly disagree with us richer, more educated, more moral people on climate, migrants, trans, whatever. If we’ve never even been able to UNDERSTAND, what middle class people even THINK, well, that show that we really are more fancy. They may look like is, but we’re definitely NOT like them! No Trump, no gold buildings, Nd no McDonalds for us!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:When will the Dems find people to play the propaganda game as well as the GOP. We have to embrace the new reality. We have to reach them on their phones and appeal to their emotions.


We need a campaign to normalize migrants and trans folks. Stupid racists fear people who are different. We need to teach them that people are the same
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I honestly don’t think there IS much to do.

Either the courts and/or Congress needs to stop the bleeding

I know Congress won’t, and the courts? We’ll see if there is any way for rulings to actually be enforceable

The 2 official ways to get rid of king Don-old are Impeachment or 25th. The current clowns won’t do it

Sadly, the bleak truth is our only actual way to stop this is war.

I wish there was another way. Truly.


There is one other option besides impeachment or war. Democracy. But to win that game, we’d have to drop our commitments to migrants and trans folks and stop calking the voters stupid. And that, my friends, we just can’t do. The one thing I will never say, no matter what, is that I was wrong about Trump ir that the voters were right to choose him. Hell no.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:January 6th is everything to me


I was traumatized by that and can't fathom how the Republicans rationalize it.


The most common class signaling we do is to pretend that we “can’t even fathom” what middle class voters are thinking. HOW can they possibly disagree with us richer, more educated, more moral people on climate, migrants, trans, whatever. If we’ve never even been able to UNDERSTAND, what middle class people even THINK, well, that show that we really are more fancy. They may look like is, but we’re definitely NOT like them! No Trump, no gold buildings, Nd no McDonalds for us!


That works in reverse too. Where are the MAGAs reaching out to understand what Democrats want?

…Oh, that’s right. They don’t care. Because, according to your calculus, simply being in power is proof that you are correct and morally superior.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Jon Stewart is ridiculing Dem leadership.
People want to dump Schumer for caving.
What would be an attack plan that makes sense?
I almost wish we had a parliamentary system right now, a dozen parties and coalitions forming and reforming.


Attack plan? That's your first problem.
Anonymous
Looks like it’s impeachment or war! We don’t even have a candidate, except for big ol JB Pritzker and lil sweet Mayor Pete. I honestly like our war chances better than our election chances at this point.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I honestly don’t think there IS much to do.

Either the courts and/or Congress needs to stop the bleeding

I know Congress won’t, and the courts? We’ll see if there is any way for rulings to actually be enforceable

The 2 official ways to get rid of king Don-old are Impeachment or 25th. The current clowns won’t do it

Sadly, the bleak truth is our only actual way to stop this is war.

I wish there was another way. Truly.


There is one other option besides impeachment or war. Democracy. But to win that game, we’d have to drop our commitments to migrants and trans folks and stop calking the voters stupid. And that, my friends, we just can’t do. The one thing I will never say, no matter what, is that I was wrong about Trump ir that the voters were right to choose him. Hell no.


Whatever. The structures of this country are not in the peoples’ favor. No amount of “democracy” will help.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:January 6th is everything to me


I was traumatized by that and can't fathom how the Republicans rationalize it.


The most common class signaling we do is to pretend that we “can’t even fathom” what middle class voters are thinking. HOW can they possibly disagree with us richer, more educated, more moral people on climate, migrants, trans, whatever. If we’ve never even been able to UNDERSTAND, what middle class people even THINK, well, that show that we really are more fancy. They may look like is, but we’re definitely NOT like them! No Trump, no gold buildings, Nd no McDonalds for us!


That works in reverse too. Where are the MAGAs reaching out to understand what Democrats want?

…Oh, that’s right. They don’t care. Because, according to your calculus, simply being in power is proof that you are correct and morally superior.


+1

I seem to remember being told “F your feelings”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Jon Stewart is ridiculing Dem leadership.
People want to dump Schumer for caving.
What would be an attack plan that makes sense?
I almost wish we had a parliamentary system right now, a dozen parties and coalitions forming and reforming.


We need to start making more noise than trump. Kick him out of first place news. Keep it non violent and lawful. Booing is fine. Put the thumb screws to both Republican and democrat members of Congress. Do not accept congressional pablum from GOP House and Senate members.

Anonymous
When Elon is buying elections and tinkering with voting software, the Dems have no chance of retaking any power. Nor will any sane Republicans.

Basically, we are screwed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:January 6th is everything to me


I was traumatized by that and can't fathom how the Republicans rationalize it.


The most common class signaling we do is to pretend that we “can’t even fathom” what middle class voters are thinking. HOW can they possibly disagree with us richer, more educated, more moral people on climate, migrants, trans, whatever. If we’ve never even been able to UNDERSTAND, what middle class people even THINK, well, that show that we really are more fancy. They may look like is, but we’re definitely NOT like them! No Trump, no gold buildings, Nd no McDonalds for us!


That works in reverse too. Where are the MAGAs reaching out to understand what Democrats want?

…Oh, that’s right. They don’t care. Because, according to your calculus, simply being in power is proof that you are correct and morally superior.


You’re confused. Republicans know what hardcore Dems want. We broadcast it all over the media. And middle class voters din’t have status anxiety the way we do. They already know we’re more affluent. But we want to prove to each other, to our upper middle class peers, that we are NOTHNG like the mere middle class.

It’s just signaling. We know the middle class doesn’t care about climate like we do, doesn’t care about trans like we (say we) do, etc. We just play dumb sometimes among each other as a way to strike a pose.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jon Stewart is ridiculing Dem leadership.
People want to dump Schumer for caving.
What would be an attack plan that makes sense?
I almost wish we had a parliamentary system right now, a dozen parties and coalitions forming and reforming.


We need to start making more noise than trump. Kick him out of first place news. Keep it non violent and lawful. Booing is fine. Put the thumb screws to both Republican and democrat members of Congress. Do not accept congressional pablum from GOP House and Senate members.



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