What SHOULD Dems do?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why should I temper what I believe in simply to vote to WIN the race?
Republicans are outright racists. How is this better than pushing for "woke" policies?

Because you are losing elections with your toxic attitudes towards potential political allies.

"Losing elections" as in the one 2024 election because of one elderly unfit person is not a political crisis for the Dems. Let's talk about the GOP dysfunction that caused their incumbent to lose to an unlikable elderly jerk in 2020.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]People that run budget deficits are not your friend. It's like a someone that buys you a car on your credit card. Free money for the bank. Thanks for nothing.
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Whn was the last president to balance the budget?[/quote]

Clinton. A Dem. and he did RIF, but it wasn't this thoughtless/mindless, brutal nonsense. [/quote]

He was also anti-immigration come to think of it, he had a number of things in common with Trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
"Fewer than half of all STEM graduates find careers in their fields. Why should our government discourage employers from hiring our home-grown graduates?"

Rep. Gosar's bill would immediately end the OPT program, and expressly prohibits any future administration from creating a similar program without the consent of Congress.

Kaine does not support
Warner does not support
Connolly does not support

Republicans created the bill but no democrats will join and help US workers

Not all stem graduates are employable

Only 28% of STEM graduates find jobs in STEM

Last June the U.S. Census Bureau reported that " [a]mong the 50 million employed college graduates ages 25 to 64 in 2019, 37% reported a bachelor's degree in science or engineering but only 14% worked in a STEM occupation...This translates into less than a third (28%) of STEM-educated workers actually working in a STEM job."

https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/06/doe...tem-job-after-graduation.html 

But elites like you don’t care about other human beings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why should I temper what I believe in simply to vote to WIN the race?
Republicans are outright racists. How is this better than pushing for "woke" policies?

Because you are losing elections with your toxic attitudes towards potential political allies.

"Losing elections" as in the one 2024 election because of one elderly unfit person is not a political crisis for the Dems. Let's talk about the GOP dysfunction that caused their incumbent to lose to an unlikable elderly jerk in 2020.

Not to mention the special election results in IA, OK, NY, VA, PA and WI, won by Democrats. Even the two ruby-red FL districts saw a big shift towards Democrats. It’s a little premature to start writing the party’s obituary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The disconnect between Democratic Party attitudes and accomplishments has never been bigger. Upper middle class striver Dems are utterly convinced that they are classier, smarter, and more moral than anyone who has ever lived.

Meanwhile, voters defected to Trump and people are moving away from blue cities and states. Dems stand for forcing things on unwilling Americans: illegal immigrant gang members, forced injections, biological males in the girls’ room, tenure for DC bureaucrats, senile Presidents, rigged primaries, endless wars, failing schools, and on and on and on. All these terrible policies would be less off-putting if Democrats weren’t constantly praising themselves for them and calling everyone else stupid.

It’s clear from these attitudes that most upper middle class Dems don’t even realize how unpopular they and their Party are with normal people. They are like Wile E Coyote after walking offf the cliff but before looking down and starting to fall. It’s a long way down. Dems are still years away from even beginning to make the necessary changes to compete.

Maybe if you say the magic incantation “UpperMiddleClassStriverDems” AGAIN (for the 700th time in this thread) a genie will appear and make everything you said true.

That group is the problem. If they stepped aside and let Black Christians run the party for a while, Dems (and the country) would be better off. There were some black Christians posting on here recently, but I think the Upper Middle Class Karens chased them off.

I’m still here. Just observing. There are many of us.
- Black Christian

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:they should do what cory booker did. show they got fight and smarts and stamina.

he inspired me and many others.

I'm still thinking about him today and I feel a bubble in my chest for the first time in awhile... genuine excitement.

Which point of his inspired you?

[Anonymous]

French tax payers paid for this and got it...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TGV

Japanese tax payers paid for this and got it...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinkansen

Norweigans paid for this and got it...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-speed_rail_in_Norway

The Swiss paid for this and got it....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-speed_rail_in_Switzerland



U.S. tax payers paid for thisl and got zippy...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_California_High-Speed_Rail

[Anonymous]

Hey dems, get off your lazy @sses and do something. With the exception of Cory Booker (mad respect for him), I’m seeing and hearing nothing from you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What about Klobuchar carrying a message to the people that there’s room for white folks in. The Dem tent?

Perfect! Yes, Klobuchar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hey dems, get off your lazy @sses and do something. With the exception of Cory Booker (mad respect for him), I’m seeing and hearing nothing from you.

Then you’re not paying attention.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here it is Dems! The painful truth.

What Democrats should do is apologize.

The voters DO want servant leaders who care more about what THEY want than what WE believe.

The voters do NOT want know-it-alls, snobs, or leaders who resent voters for daring to choose the other party once in a while.

The customer is always right. We can either cling to our belief that WE are always right and the customers are wrong, or we can apologize for our past failures to give the customers what they want, apologize for disrespecting the customers, change our offerings, and try to earn back their business.

If we can’t even apologize, then they know we don’t intend to respect their wishes over our own beliefs going forward either.

Here is just a partial list of what swing voters and flyover state viters want us to apologize for:

1) Covid overreach. I know, I know, we f**king love science and the voters are stupid. It doesn’t matter. The voters reject our belief that we helped against Covid, and they are furious about forced masking of children, school closures, and forced injections on penalty of job loss. They were also very shaken by what they saw as our totalitarian streak. A lot of us were very cruel to neighbors and even family members. I know it will be very difficult psychologically for us to admit any fault here. We were on the right side of this, our intentions were good, etc. But so far basically none of us have said sorry to anyone for any of this. If we want swing voters back, we have to say sorry.

2) Illegal Immigration

3) Using affirmative action to harm white workers

4) LGBTQIA+ education in elementary schools. (I agree, it’s a good thing. It teaches kids tolerance. Rs make too big a deal of it. But remember, they are the customers. If we’re the “force unpopular things down your throat Party,” they won’t vote for us. We went too far (for THEIR liking), and for that, we should apologize

5) Inflation. Yes it was Covid, the Fed, and Trump’s fault too. But our team printed and borrowed and spent too much money.

6) Calling voters stupid racists

Think about it. We win’t like this prescription, but without it we can’t get the votes back

Here’s the thing I don’t understand about accusing dems of covid overreach. It was a global pandemic. The same response was happening all over the world, based on guidance from the too scientists around the world. I don’t know why dems should apologize or take the fall. I’m a teacher, and I am still feeling and seeing the consequences of kids missing so much school. Right now, my students are the “covid kindergarteners” and it is rough. I remember seeing my colleagues trying to teach those babies online and it was a very sad sight. But I remind myself that some of those kids might not be here if we had kept schools open. Or they would have experienced even more trauma by losing friends and relatives to covid.

I don’t think apologizing for these things is the answer. That would seem to imply that we were wrong. But I do think we need to do a MUCH better job of explaining and breaking things down for the voters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The disconnect between Democratic Party attitudes and accomplishments has never been bigger. Upper middle class striver Dems are utterly convinced that they are classier, smarter, and more moral than anyone who has ever lived.

Meanwhile, voters defected to Trump and people are moving away from blue cities and states. Dems stand for forcing things on unwilling Americans: illegal immigrant gang members, forced injections, biological males in the girls’ room, tenure for DC bureaucrats, senile Presidents, rigged primaries, endless wars, failing schools, and on and on and on. All these terrible policies would be less off-putting if Democrats weren’t constantly praising themselves for them and calling everyone else stupid.

It’s clear from these attitudes that most upper middle class Dems don’t even realize how unpopular they and their Party are with normal people. They are like Wile E Coyote after walking offf the cliff but before looking down and starting to fall. It’s a long way down. Dems are still years away from even beginning to make the necessary changes to compete.

Nobody takes you seriously. This is just Trumped up MAGA parroting a senile President who “constantly praises himself.”

I voted for Clinton and Obama, and raised money for them too. And I’m a well-read dcurbanmom. Who lives in DC. And has a masters degree. I can assure you that I don’t get my opinions of Democrats, their policies, their performance, or their personalities from Donald Trump! Or from Fox News. I know you think all non-Kamala voters are stupid racist cult members, but actually, people are souring on today’s Democrats in millions of uniquely personal ways.

Democrats who did not vote for Harris are largely to blame for our current situation. Full stop. With democracy and our rights on the line, it was not the time to make a point. Literally any democrat (or republican, for that matter) would have been far better than Trump. Withholding your vote was a vote for Trump and it was the wrong move. As long as Rs have zero standards for their candidates while Ds nit-pick and expect perfection, we will lose. To be clear, I wish both parties would strive for candidates who are the gold standard, but Rs do not seem remotely interested.

[Anonymous]

Here’s the thing I don’t understand about accusing dems of covid overreach. It was a global pandemic. The same response was happening all over the world, based on guidance from the too scientists around the world. I don’t know why dems should apologize or take the fall. I’m a teacher, and I am still feeling and seeing the consequences of kids missing so much school. Right now, my students are the “covid kindergarteners” and it is rough. I remember seeing my colleagues trying to teach those babies online and it was a very sad sight. But I remind myself that some of those kids might not be here if we had kept schools open. Or they would have experienced even more trauma by losing friends and relatives to covid.

I don’t think apologizing for these things is the answer. That would seem to imply that we were wrong. But I do think we need to do a MUCH better job of explaining and breaking things down for the voters.


it isn't true about Covid- kids were not being forced to mask and schools were open all over europe. especially after the vaccine was developed and napped was forced or fired. people got the vaccine b/c they didn't want to get sick. American people are ,morons- we have to be with the way that our government taxes us 4% less money for absolutely NOTHING in return compared to every other free, developed nation anywhere and we still keep voting for these people. wehavent had a competent president since Obama's first term. I don't refer him accomplishing/congress doing anything his 2nd term.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The disconnect between Democratic Party attitudes and accomplishments has never been bigger. Upper middle class striver Dems are utterly convinced that they are classier, smarter, and more moral than anyone who has ever lived.

Meanwhile, voters defected to Trump and people are moving away from blue cities and states. Dems stand for forcing things on unwilling Americans: illegal immigrant gang members, forced injections, biological males in the girls’ room, tenure for DC bureaucrats, senile Presidents, rigged primaries, endless wars, failing schools, and on and on and on. All these terrible policies would be less off-putting if Democrats weren’t constantly praising themselves for them and calling everyone else stupid.

It’s clear from these attitudes that most upper middle class Dems don’t even realize how unpopular they and their Party are with normal people. They are like Wile E Coyote after walking offf the cliff but before looking down and starting to fall. It’s a long way down. Dems are still years away from even beginning to make the necessary changes to compete.

Nobody takes you seriously. This is just Trumped up MAGA parroting a senile President who “constantly praises himself.”

I voted for Clinton and Obama, and raised money for them too. And I’m a well-read dcurbanmom. Who lives in DC. And has a masters degree. I can assure you that I don’t get my opinions of Democrats, their policies, their performance, or their personalities from Donald Trump! Or from Fox News. I know you think all non-Kamala voters are stupid racist cult members, but actually, people are souring on today’s Democrats in millions of uniquely personal ways.

Democrats who did not vote for Harris are largely to blame for our current situation. Full stop. With democracy and our rights on the line, it was not the time to make a point. Literally any democrat (or republican, for that matter) would have been far better than Trump. Withholding your vote was a vote for Trump and it was the wrong move. As long as Rs have zero standards for their candidates while Ds nit-pick and expect perfection, we will lose. To be clear, I wish both parties would strive for candidates who are the gold standard, but Rs do not seem remotely interested.

Apparently, voters don't agree with you. Adjust your sight picture and windage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Democrats are the party of:

Disrupt
Destroy
Litigate
Repeat

Have you looked in the mirror? Last time I checked, under Dems, employment increases, GDP increases, we are the envy of the world in growth. Let's talk about today, a bill that increases the deficit by $4T, tax cuts for people making over $1M and tax increases for those making under $200k. Kicking 17M people off of Medicaid, most of whom are working. College grads can't get jobs, growth is slowing, prices have increased because of stupid tariffs, Rs are literally dragging people off the street if they are brown (and legal) and Dems are the party of destruction?

Oh, and if we suck so bad, why do Rs have to literally cheat (TX) to win?

And another thing, Rs are racist.