Women who say they aren't voting on the single issue of abortion rights

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I love that the right is saying women need to put with their husbands.... Then what possibly was the point of gaining the right to vote if I have to vote exactly how another human being does. I would be doubling his voting power and having none of my own.
But of course that's what they want women to not have a voice and willingly choose to give it away

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But there’s nuance to the question. Many may not be “single issue” voters on abortion. But they can see the negative effects of abortion bans on the accessibility of women’s healthcare.

But regardless, the abortion bans reek of government interference in personal affairs. Not a winning strategy. Even women who don’t support abortion per se, don’t want the government messing around in their lives.

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Anonymous wrote:I love that the right is saying women need to put with their husbands.... Then what possibly was the point of gaining the right to vote if I have to vote exactly how another human being does. I would be doubling his voting power and having none of my own.
But of course that's what they want women to not have a voice and willingly choose to give it away

You’re confused. It’s the left suggesting in ridiculous online screeds that republican women are too scared to vote against their husbands’ wishes. Faux concern and insulting to other women.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you not have daughters? Sisters? Nieces? What will you say to them when they need a D&C because they had a miscarriage and aren't able to get one and go into septic shock? What happens when their fallopian tube ruptures due to an ectopic pregnancy and they start bleeding internally? Does nobody think about the ramifications of their actions until it affects them individually? Southern states are trying to ban abortions in all instances - rape, incest, health of the mother. Why would you let your daughters, yourself, your nieces, your sisters, go through such pain? HOW IS THIS NOT IMPORTANT TO YOU!?! Why is your money more important than your health?

Abortion debate aside. Are you one of the parents who lets your kid get obese? Are you one of the parents who doesn't promote proper nutrition? Are you one of the parents who doesn't make their kids go outside and exercise? Are you one of the parents who lets their kids go on social media and get depression? Is this really a health care debate? If it is, then I wish every parent cared about these things first before arguing either way about pregnancy issues that occur much less frequently (and some arise because of obesity and mental health).

OP - to answer your question no. My kids are all thin (I am trying to get them to gain weight), eat healthy, are not on social media, have no cell phones, do multiple sports and are good at school. I actively sit with them to do homework every night. We bike and/or walk together after dinner. Between my 3 kids they have sports 10 times a week.

So focus on them and leave the rest of us and our families alone.. my reproductive life is none of your business.

Op - 100% I am not trying to get into your reproductive life at all! Why can’t republicans get out of everyone else’s reproductive life too? Leave it up to the individual and their doctor?

Republicans want democrats to stay out of their medical decisions and let people decide with their doctor whether vaccines are right for them. Democrats believe it’s their right to get in republicans’ medical business because it “might save a life”. Abortions are literally taking a life, by definition. So let’s start there.

And I do support abortion to a point, by the way, just sick of the “republicans are getting in my business and we don’t get in theirs” claims that any serious person can see are lies.

np How can you not see the difference? If you get a contagious disease and pass it on to other people you are potentially killing them. You have the choice to stay at home and not get the vaccine OR get the vaccine and participate in society. Abortions really only affect the person having the abortion.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you not have daughters? Sisters? Nieces? What will you say to them when they need a D&C because they had a miscarriage and aren't able to get one and go into septic shock? What happens when their fallopian tube ruptures due to an ectopic pregnancy and they start bleeding internally? Does nobody think about the ramifications of their actions until it affects them individually? Southern states are trying to ban abortions in all instances - rape, incest, health of the mother. Why would you let your daughters, yourself, your nieces, your sisters, go through such pain? HOW IS THIS NOT IMPORTANT TO YOU!?! Why is your money more important than your health?

Abortion debate aside. Are you one of the parents who lets your kid get obese? Are you one of the parents who doesn't promote proper nutrition? Are you one of the parents who doesn't make their kids go outside and exercise? Are you one of the parents who lets their kids go on social media and get depression? Is this really a health care debate? If it is, then I wish every parent cared about these things first before arguing either way about pregnancy issues that occur much less frequently (and some arise because of obesity and mental health).

OP - to answer your question no. My kids are all thin (I am trying to get them to gain weight), eat healthy, are not on social media, have no cell phones, do multiple sports and are good at school. I actively sit with them to do homework every night. We bike and/or walk together after dinner. Between my 3 kids they have sports 10 times a week.

So focus on them and leave the rest of us and our families alone.. my reproductive life is none of your business.

Op - 100% I am not trying to get into your reproductive life at all! Why can’t republicans get out of everyone else’s reproductive life too? Leave it up to the individual and their doctor?

Republicans want democrats to stay out of their medical decisions and let people decide with their doctor whether vaccines are right for them. Democrats believe it’s their right to get in republicans’ medical business because it “might save a life”. Abortions are literally taking a life, by definition. So let’s start there.

And I do support abortion to a point, by the way, just sick of the “republicans are getting in my business and we don’t get in theirs” claims that any serious person can see are lies.

np How can you not see the difference? If you get a contagious disease and pass it on to other people you are potentially killing them. You have the choice to stay at home and not get the vaccine OR get the vaccine and participate in society. Abortions really only affect the person having the abortion.

What patent nonsense. First about the ability of a vaccinated person vs a non for spreading COVID -not to mention our history of individual liberty vs compulsory medical care - and secondly for not recognizing the effect of an abortion on the fetus not just the mother.

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Anonymous wrote:But there’s nuance to the question. Many may not be “single issue” voters on abortion. But they can see the negative effects of abortion bans on the accessibility of women’s healthcare.

But regardless, the abortion bans reek of government interference in personal affairs. Not a winning strategy. Even women who don’t support abortion per se, don’t want the government messing around in their lives.

You got that right. Roe allowed for choice. Do not ever have an abortion if you do not want it. No one should be involved in that private decision that belongs to you unless you seek their input.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you not have daughters? Sisters? Nieces? What will you say to them when they need a D&C because they had a miscarriage and aren't able to get one and go into septic shock? What happens when their fallopian tube ruptures due to an ectopic pregnancy and they start bleeding internally? Does nobody think about the ramifications of their actions until it affects them individually? Southern states are trying to ban abortions in all instances - rape, incest, health of the mother. Why would you let your daughters, yourself, your nieces, your sisters, go through such pain? HOW IS THIS NOT IMPORTANT TO YOU!?! Why is your money more important than your health?

Abortion debate aside. Are you one of the parents who lets your kid get obese? Are you one of the parents who doesn't promote proper nutrition? Are you one of the parents who doesn't make their kids go outside and exercise? Are you one of the parents who lets their kids go on social media and get depression? Is this really a health care debate? If it is, then I wish every parent cared about these things first before arguing either way about pregnancy issues that occur much less frequently (and some arise because of obesity and mental health).

OP - to answer your question no. My kids are all thin (I am trying to get them to gain weight), eat healthy, are not on social media, have no cell phones, do multiple sports and are good at school. I actively sit with them to do homework every night. We bike and/or walk together after dinner. Between my 3 kids they have sports 10 times a week.

So focus on them and leave the rest of us and our families alone.. my reproductive life is none of your business.

Op - 100% I am not trying to get into your reproductive life at all! Why can’t republicans get out of everyone else’s reproductive life too? Leave it up to the individual and their doctor?

Republicans want democrats to stay out of their medical decisions and let people decide with their doctor whether vaccines are right for them. Democrats believe it’s their right to get in republicans’ medical business because it “might save a life”. Abortions are literally taking a life, by definition. So let’s start there.

And I do support abortion to a point, by the way, just sick of the “republicans are getting in my business and we don’t get in theirs” claims that any serious person can see are lies.

np How can you not see the difference? If you get a contagious disease and pass it on to other people you are potentially killing them. You have the choice to stay at home and not get the vaccine OR get the vaccine and participate in society. Abortions really only affect the person having the abortion.

What patent nonsense. First about the ability of a vaccinated person vs a non for spreading COVID -not to mention our history of individual liberty vs compulsory medical care - and secondly for not recognizing the effect of an abortion on the fetus not just the mother.

Can you answer the question of who strapped you down against your will to get a COVID vaccine, or did you ultimately have a choice not to get one even if you faced consequences for not getting one? Because the only mandates I faced were ones that said I couldn't do xyz if I didn't get vaccinated. No one actually threatened to come jab me if I didn't consent. Am really interested in hearing who jabbed you without your consent, removing any kind of choice.

And what about your kids' polio, MMR, and other vaccines that are required for many schools and camps -are you furious about those as well?

Thanks for engaging.

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Anonymous wrote:For GEN Z- Women rights are a HUGE ISSUIE

…only in your head.

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Anonymous wrote:For GEN Z- Women rights are a HUGE ISSUIE

…only in your head.

Not in my head. DD just begged me to drive a hundred miles to bring her her absentee ballot that arrived at home after she returned to college after fall break. The college students are determined to vote.

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Anonymous wrote:Abortion numbers have actually increased since Dobbs. Funny how that works!

As a mom of two daughters, reproductive freedom is my top voting issue. Same with my first time presidential election voting daughter. We showed up and voted last week.

Nice to you know you're raising your daughter in fear of false dilemmas without the critical stamina to understand that women are in far worse danger of subjugation under the regime that is allowing men to invade their spaces, their jobs, their sports. You are not being a good role model for your daughter when you teach her that the most important issue for electing a president is how far along in pregnancy a woman can abort her child. Question: has Harris said how she will overturn the Scotus decision?

What a load of bologna. I am definitely raising my daughters and sons to be able to see through that kind of b*******.

Explain to your sons and daughters the critical importance of reproductive rights and explain to them how to fight and vote to get them.

Why do you keep saying reproductive rights when what you mean is abortion? You can turn yourself inside out all you want, you are still advocating for ending the lives of fetuses. These are not 'clumps of cells.' These are fully-formed, human beings, who, after about 12 weeks, have to be pulled apart and killed in utero.

Ok scoldylocks, I wouldn't even have kids to teach if it wasn't for IVF like millions of other moms. And darling, some of the embryos don't make it when you do IVF.

I've got this issue covered with my kids. I don't need any help from the likes of you.

I'm the PP you're responding to, and I also had my children through IVF--actual IVF, not the IUI, as the Walzes did then lied about. In any event, it is a red herring to talk about "reproductive rights" and you know it. You are not voting about IVF, you are voting about abortion and cannot be honest with yourself. I am fully aware of how IVF works by the way. And you know what else, two of my IVF babies were born at 20 weeks. I held them for the 2 hours they lived and breathed outside of my uterus. Kissed them and told them how much I loved them. Are you the kind of person who calls those "clumps of cells?"

Well then from one IVF mom to another.... I don't know why you don't understand this..... but the destruction of Roe threatens IVF as a fertility treatment. If you want to fully protect access to IVF and some other fertility treatments...And yes also abortion, which is the flip side of fertility treatments, Daniel then we then we need to fight to get back the protections of Roe. Voting for Harris it's the beginning of this process.

Actually, as an"IVF mom" (though, I don't know identify myself that way), I am hopeful that the technology is as close as it sounds to not have to produce and discard embryos. I am a massive hypocrite, because the discarding of embryos bothers me. I did not discard any. We had multiple rounds--as I mentioned, two of them were delivered and died at 20 weeks, and the rest were used in multiple attempts. It would pain me to discard of them. Nonetheless, not a single state has taken a step to ban IVF, so again, red herring.

Did you really miss that the Alabama Supreme Court issued a ruling in February declaring that embryos created through in IVF should be considered children?

Do you really not understand that this is not banning IVF?

Do you really not understand that the risk is not an IVF ban? The clinics that halted the procedure made that decision all by themselves to avoid the risks of facing catastrophic liabilities.

What do they procedurally do with all of the unused embryos (which are inherently necessary via this procedure)? You can't discard them. You can't keep them frozen forever. If you transport them across state lines for disposal, would they be charged with mass murder? It's not just legal liability, it's legal jeopardy.

+1. Ivf does not need to be banned in order to have no clinics actually offer the procedure. If you truly decide that an embryo or a fetus is a person then IVF is over.

Overturning roe pollutes a wide ranging array of women's healthcare issues. For example, it doesn't prohibit obstetricians from coming to your state, it just ends up having that effect. The risks of practicing medicine in an abortion ban state make it an undesirable location to practice that specialty.

It is safer to carry pregnancies in pro choice states.

Dobbs didn't outlaw IVF.

The GOP’s attack on women’s health care is a risk to women’s health, including IVF and general ob/gyn care.

Anyone who is being intellectually honest would admit this.

It’s safer to carry pregnancies in pro choice states.

It’s safer to be a woman in pro choice states.

If you were a terminated female fetus, you weren’t safe at all, were you?

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Anonymous wrote:For GEN Z- Women rights are a HUGE ISSUIE

…only in your head.

Not in my head. DD just begged me to drive a hundred miles to bring her her absentee ballot that arrived at home after she returned to college after fall break. The college students are determined to vote.

Determined to vote and determined to vote for Harris.

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Anonymous wrote:I love that the right is saying women need to put with their husbands.... Then what possibly was the point of gaining the right to vote if I have to vote exactly how another human being does. I would be doubling his voting power and having none of my own.
But of course that's what they want women to not have a voice and willingly choose to give it away

You’re confused. It’s the left suggesting in ridiculous online screeds that republican women are too scared to vote against their husbands’ wishes. Faux concern and insulting to other women.

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Married for 36 years and every election voted differently than my republican DH. That ad is insulting to both women and men.

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Anonymous wrote:Abortion numbers have actually increased since Dobbs. Funny how that works!

As a mom of two daughters, reproductive freedom is my top voting issue. Same with my first time presidential election voting daughter. We showed up and voted last week.

Nice to you know you're raising your daughter in fear of false dilemmas without the critical stamina to understand that women are in far worse danger of subjugation under the regime that is allowing men to invade their spaces, their jobs, their sports. You are not being a good role model for your daughter when you teach her that the most important issue for electing a president is how far along in pregnancy a woman can abort her child. Question: has Harris said how she will overturn the Scotus decision?

What a load of bologna. I am definitely raising my daughters and sons to be able to see through that kind of b*******.

Explain to your sons and daughters the critical importance of reproductive rights and explain to them how to fight and vote to get them.

Why do you keep saying reproductive rights when what you mean is abortion? You can turn yourself inside out all you want, you are still advocating for ending the lives of fetuses. These are not 'clumps of cells.' These are fully-formed, human beings, who, after about 12 weeks, have to be pulled apart and killed in utero.

Ok scoldylocks, I wouldn't even have kids to teach if it wasn't for IVF like millions of other moms. And darling, some of the embryos don't make it when you do IVF.

I've got this issue covered with my kids. I don't need any help from the likes of you.

I'm the PP you're responding to, and I also had my children through IVF--actual IVF, not the IUI, as the Walzes did then lied about. In any event, it is a red herring to talk about "reproductive rights" and you know it. You are not voting about IVF, you are voting about abortion and cannot be honest with yourself. I am fully aware of how IVF works by the way. And you know what else, two of my IVF babies were born at 20 weeks. I held them for the 2 hours they lived and breathed outside of my uterus. Kissed them and told them how much I loved them. Are you the kind of person who calls those "clumps of cells?"

Well then from one IVF mom to another.... I don't know why you don't understand this..... but the destruction of Roe threatens IVF as a fertility treatment. If you want to fully protect access to IVF and some other fertility treatments...And yes also abortion, which is the flip side of fertility treatments, Daniel then we then we need to fight to get back the protections of Roe. Voting for Harris it's the beginning of this process.

Actually, as an"IVF mom" (though, I don't know identify myself that way), I am hopeful that the technology is as close as it sounds to not have to produce and discard embryos. I am a massive hypocrite, because the discarding of embryos bothers me. I did not discard any. We had multiple rounds--as I mentioned, two of them were delivered and died at 20 weeks, and the rest were used in multiple attempts. It would pain me to discard of them. Nonetheless, not a single state has taken a step to ban IVF, so again, red herring.

Did you really miss that the Alabama Supreme Court issued a ruling in February declaring that embryos created through in IVF should be considered children?

Do you really not understand that this is not banning IVF?

Do you really not understand that the risk is not an IVF ban? The clinics that halted the procedure made that decision all by themselves to avoid the risks of facing catastrophic liabilities.

What do they procedurally do with all of the unused embryos (which are inherently necessary via this procedure)? You can't discard them. You can't keep them frozen forever. If you transport them across state lines for disposal, would they be charged with mass murder? It's not just legal liability, it's legal jeopardy.

+1. Ivf does not need to be banned in order to have no clinics actually offer the procedure. If you truly decide that an embryo or a fetus is a person then IVF is over.

Overturning roe pollutes a wide ranging array of women's healthcare issues. For example, it doesn't prohibit obstetricians from coming to your state, it just ends up having that effect. The risks of practicing medicine in an abortion ban state make it an undesirable location to practice that specialty.

It is safer to carry pregnancies in pro choice states.

Dobbs didn't outlaw IVF.

The GOP’s attack on women’s health care is a risk to women’s health, including IVF and general ob/gyn care.

Anyone who is being intellectually honest would admit this.

It’s safer to carry pregnancies in pro choice states.

It’s safer to be a woman in pro choice states.

How is it safer to be a woman when Democrats want erasure of the term women?

Why do Democrats support transgender operations on male prisoners but not government funded/subsidized IVF?

Republicans are pro family and not all demonize IVF. Many Republican women use IVF to have families of their own. It’s actually more likely Republicans will come up with ways to be more pro women and pro family like supporting subsidized IVF and childcare something Donald Trump was a first to support for all federal workers (maternity and paternity leave and childcare)

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Anonymous wrote:Do you not have daughters? Sisters? Nieces? What will you say to them when they need a D&C because they had a miscarriage and aren't able to get one and go into septic shock? What happens when their fallopian tube ruptures due to an ectopic pregnancy and they start bleeding internally? Does nobody think about the ramifications of their actions until it affects them individually? Southern states are trying to ban abortions in all instances - rape, incest, health of the mother. Why would you let your daughters, yourself, your nieces, your sisters, go through such pain? HOW IS THIS NOT IMPORTANT TO YOU!?! Why is your money more important than your health?

Abortion debate aside. Are you one of the parents who lets your kid get obese? Are you one of the parents who doesn't promote proper nutrition? Are you one of the parents who doesn't make their kids go outside and exercise? Are you one of the parents who lets their kids go on social media and get depression? Is this really a health care debate? If it is, then I wish every parent cared about these things first before arguing either way about pregnancy issues that occur much less frequently (and some arise because of obesity and mental health).

OP - to answer your question no. My kids are all thin (I am trying to get them to gain weight), eat healthy, are not on social media, have no cell phones, do multiple sports and are good at school. I actively sit with them to do homework every night. We bike and/or walk together after dinner. Between my 3 kids they have sports 10 times a week.

So focus on them and leave the rest of us and our families alone.. my reproductive life is none of your business.

Op - 100% I am not trying to get into your reproductive life at all! Why can’t republicans get out of everyone else’s reproductive life too? Leave it up to the individual and their doctor?

Republicans want democrats to stay out of their medical decisions and let people decide with their doctor whether vaccines are right for them. Democrats believe it’s their right to get in republicans’ medical business because it “might save a life”. Abortions are literally taking a life, by definition. So let’s start there.

And I do support abortion to a point, by the way, just sick of the “republicans are getting in my business and we don’t get in theirs” claims that any serious person can see are lies.

np How can you not see the difference? If you get a contagious disease and pass it on to other people you are potentially killing them. You have the choice to stay at home and not get the vaccine OR get the vaccine and participate in society. Abortions really only affect the person having the abortion.

And the baby they are killing

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats want to expand abortion to all trimesters. They are liars. Abortions used to be emergency medicine not an elective procedure and Republicans want to go back to that.

They believe in killing a 28 week old baby with a heartbeat. That’s infanticide. The fetal tissue from late term abortions was being sold on the black market according to Sarah Merritt, a whistleblower in California who Kamala Harris prosecuted

2015 Merritt, along with David Daleiden, released videos exposing Planned Parenthood’s alleged involvement in the illegal trade of aborted baby body parts. The undercover work spanned nearly three years and exposed an underground market wherein Planned Parenthood supplied baby body parts to others for profit.

In response to that undercover journalistic work, Merritt has faced civil and criminal charges

Democrats support Roe.

Sometimes, even during Roe, a medical abortion was necessary in the 3rd term because the fetus was no longer viable or the health of the mother was at risk. If either of these conditions occurred currently in states with restrictive rules, the pregnant woman would be SOL, right? Is that what you support?

Also, how many "vanity" abortions do you think took place in the third trimester in the US? How many doctors do you think are even willing to conduct such a procedure? (hint: none)