Women who say they aren't voting on the single issue of abortion rights

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Pro-choice ballot initiatives have exceeded their polling, meaning yes, there are plenty of women who, when they get in the polling booth, are telling a story that isn’t what they’re saying to their spouses.

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Kamala Harris released an ad targeting conservative women. She is implying that we are being told by men how we should vote. And that the voting booth is the only place in America that we can choose. I find the ad offensive. She is acting as if we want to vote for her, but are being prevented from doing so by men in our lives. This is far from the case; we have made up our minds to vote against her based on her record.

Super Cringe!

I don't get why they always feel the need have actors make men seem super creepy.

Trump manages that all by himself.

So Trump makes all men seem super creepy in commercials?

Not PP but some men are super creepy. Including Trump.

OK and understand, but that was not my question. I made no mention of Trump and he does not appear in the commercial.
So, my original question still stands, why make men always seem creepy in commercials?

I will also agree that SOME men are creepy and not ALL men are creepy. Also, I will say that SOME women are creepy (but not all women). Can you agree to that?
I read online about how Harris is losing the young male vote and how the left cant understand why they would go toward Trump. When all you do is portray someone as creepy or a doofus they don't want to be on your "team". This is why I have serious doubt about a party that I have previously supported.

This is one commercial in which the man is supposed to be creepy. Can you embed some other examples of Kamala Harris commercials in which you feel men are made to look creepy, because I just don’t see it. Go watch a few and then put them on here; should be easy according to you.

Hi, me again. If there’s an epidemic of ads for Kamala Harris in which men look creepy according to you, I’d like to see them and I think you should be able to find them easily. Where are they?

The porn ad men were creepy.

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Anonymous wrote:Pro-choice ballot initiatives have exceeded their polling, meaning yes, there are plenty of women who, when they get in the polling booth, are telling a story that isn’t what they’re saying to their spouses.

Absolutely. When the time comes casting a real vote, that's going to count, the importance of this issue becomes very very clear.

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Anonymous wrote:Abortion numbers have actually increased since Dobbs. Funny how that works!

As a mom of two daughters, reproductive freedom is my top voting issue. Same with my first time presidential election voting daughter. We showed up and voted last week.

Nice to you know you're raising your daughter in fear of false dilemmas without the critical stamina to understand that women are in far worse danger of subjugation under the regime that is allowing men to invade their spaces, their jobs, their sports. You are not being a good role model for your daughter when you teach her that the most important issue for electing a president is how far along in pregnancy a woman can abort her child. Question: has Harris said how she will overturn the Scotus decision?

What a load of bologna. I am definitely raising my daughters and sons to be able to see through that kind of b*******.

Explain to your sons and daughters the critical importance of reproductive rights and explain to them how to fight and vote to get them.

Why do you keep saying reproductive rights when what you mean is abortion? You can turn yourself inside out all you want, you are still advocating for ending the lives of fetuses. These are not 'clumps of cells.' These are fully-formed, human beings, who, after about 12 weeks, have to be pulled apart and killed in utero.

Ok scoldylocks, I wouldn't even have kids to teach if it wasn't for IVF like millions of other moms. And darling, some of the embryos don't make it when you do IVF.

I've got this issue covered with my kids. I don't need any help from the likes of you.

I'm the PP you're responding to, and I also had my children through IVF--actual IVF, not the IUI, as the Walzes did then lied about. In any event, it is a red herring to talk about "reproductive rights" and you know it. You are not voting about IVF, you are voting about abortion and cannot be honest with yourself. I am fully aware of how IVF works by the way. And you know what else, two of my IVF babies were born at 20 weeks. I held them for the 2 hours they lived and breathed outside of my uterus. Kissed them and told them how much I loved them. Are you the kind of person who calls those "clumps of cells?"

Well then from one IVF mom to another.... I don't know why you don't understand this..... but the destruction of Roe threatens IVF as a fertility treatment. If you want to fully protect access to IVF and some other fertility treatments...And yes also abortion, which is the flip side of fertility treatments, Daniel then we then we need to fight to get back the protections of Roe. Voting for Harris it's the beginning of this process.

Actually, as an"IVF mom" (though, I don't know identify myself that way), I am hopeful that the technology is as close as it sounds to not have to produce and discard embryos. I am a massive hypocrite, because the discarding of embryos bothers me. I did not discard any. We had multiple rounds--as I mentioned, two of them were delivered and died at 20 weeks, and the rest were used in multiple attempts. It would pain me to discard of them. Nonetheless, not a single state has taken a step to ban IVF, so again, red herring.

Did you really miss that the Alabama Supreme Court issued a ruling in February declaring that embryos created through in IVF should be considered children?

Do you really not understand that this is not banning IVF?

Do you really not understand that the risk is not an IVF ban? The clinics that halted the procedure made that decision all by themselves to avoid the risks of facing catastrophic liabilities.

What do they procedurally do with all of the unused embryos (which are inherently necessary via this procedure)? You can't discard them. You can't keep them frozen forever. If you transport them across state lines for disposal, would they be charged with mass murder? It's not just legal liability, it's legal jeopardy.

+1. Ivf does not need to be banned in order to have no clinics actually offer the procedure. If you truly decide that an embryo or a fetus is a person then IVF is over.

Overturning roe pollutes a wide ranging array of women's healthcare issues. For example, it doesn't prohibit obstetricians from coming to your state, it just ends up having that effect. The risks of practicing medicine in an abortion ban state make it an undesirable location to practice that specialty.

It is safer to carry pregnancies in pro choice states.

Dobbs didn't outlaw IVF.

The GOP’s attack on women’s health care is a risk to women’s health, including IVF and general ob/gyn care.

Anyone who is being intellectually honest would admit this.

It’s safer to carry pregnancies in pro choice states.

It’s safer to be a woman in pro choice states.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't speak for women because I am a man. However my guess is that some women who are not primarily driven by the abortion issue know that should their daughter be in a situation where she would need an abortion even if they live in a state with the most restrictive abortion laws they will find a WAY to get an abortion for their daughter should she desire one.

We Americans are individualists. We are conditioned to think about ourselves our family first and foremost. And with access to financial resources in this country anything is possible. This is an ultra capitalist free market country and the most restrictive laws are not going to stop people of means. There is a way. Money talks. These women (and their husbands) DGAF about others. Sadly that's how many of us think in this country. And to his credit Mr Trump knows this. He knows that Americans are inherently individualist and you can sell 300 million different messages to 300 millions people and they will pick and choose what benefits them. If what benefits them hurts others oh well too bad blame Lady Luck.

Yes, please do not ever speak for women. We have enough men pretending to be us as it is. I am not driven by the abortion issue, but I am certain that should my daughter be silly enough to get pregnant, that she would carry the baby to term. She is an adult, with choices, and for now her choice is to not get pregnant (okay, start with rape argument, when there are almost zero abortions done as a result of rape).

Only silly women find themselves with unwanted or nonviable pregnancies. Gotcha.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't speak for women because I am a man. However my guess is that some women who are not primarily driven by the abortion issue know that should their daughter be in a situation where she would need an abortion even if they live in a state with the most restrictive abortion laws they will find a WAY to get an abortion for their daughter should she desire one.

We Americans are individualists. We are conditioned to think about ourselves our family first and foremost. And with access to financial resources in this country anything is possible. This is an ultra capitalist free market country and the most restrictive laws are not going to stop people of means. There is a way. Money talks. These women (and their husbands) DGAF about others. Sadly that's how many of us think in this country. And to his credit Mr Trump knows this. He knows that Americans are inherently individualist and you can sell 300 million different messages to 300 millions people and they will pick and choose what benefits them. If what benefits them hurts others oh well too bad blame Lady Luck.

Yes, please do not ever speak for women. We have enough men pretending to be us as it is. I am not driven by the abortion issue, but I am certain that should my daughter be silly enough to get pregnant, that she would carry the baby to term. She is an adult, with choices, and for now her choice is to not get pregnant (okay, start with rape argument, when there are almost zero abortions done as a result of rape).

Only silly women find themselves with unwanted or nonviable pregnancies. Gotcha.

So it is a woman's fault to have an ectopic pregnancy or to need a D&C?

really?

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What does Vance mean by "going to far????"

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For GEN Z- Women rights are a HUGE ISSUIE

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This is not even just about abortion, as many here know.
For those who just have no clue: Planned Parenthood is a place to get testing, ask questions, and get services--sometimes the only /only affordable place to go--that have nothing to do with abortion.

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Anonymous wrote:This is not even just about abortion, as many here know.
For those who just have no clue: Planned Parenthood is a place to get testing, ask questions, and get services--sometimes the only /only affordable place to go--that have nothing to do with abortion.

As far as I can tell, forced birthers don’t think women should be able to access health care at any point. They want to cancel Obamacare, they hate Planned Parenthood despite it being the most accessible and affordable point of access for medical care, they think women should just go ahead and die for need of an abortion, the fact that women’s bodies are relatively unstudied and that our medical issues are still not taken seriously at all doesn’t seem to bother them.

I think forced birthers think women should just go ahead and be miserable and die young, as they think God intended.

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Anonymous wrote:This is not even just about abortion, as many here know.
For those who just have no clue: Planned Parenthood is a place to get testing, ask questions, and get services--sometimes the only /only affordable place to go--that have nothing to do with abortion.

planned parenthood helped me through my first pregnancy. I chose to have the baby, was single (now married to the father for 37 years) and there was no judgment whatsoever. I continued to use the same dr, and their services, throughout my subsequent pregnancies.
Why don't ppl get this?

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Anonymous wrote:This is not even just about abortion, as many here know.
For those who just have no clue: Planned Parenthood is a place to get testing, ask questions, and get services--sometimes the only /only affordable place to go--that have nothing to do with abortion.

planned parenthood helped me through my first pregnancy. I chose to have the baby, was single (now married to the father for 37 years) and there was no judgment whatsoever. I continued to use the same dr, and their services, throughout my subsequent pregnancies.
Why don't ppl get this?

People get this millions of people get this. The forced birthers hold a minority view. It is a minority position and it has been losing in recent elections.

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Anonymous wrote:This is not even just about abortion, as many here know.
For those who just have no clue: Planned Parenthood is a place to get testing, ask questions, and get services--sometimes the only /only affordable place to go--that have nothing to do with abortion.

planned parenthood helped me through my first pregnancy. I chose to have the baby, was single (now married to the father for 37 years) and there was no judgment whatsoever. I continued to use the same dr, and their services, throughout my subsequent pregnancies.
Why don't ppl get this?

People get this millions of people get this. The forced birthers hold a minority view. It is a minority position and it has been losing in recent elections.

But you have to get out there and make your voice heard and encourage all the other people who hold this view to make their voice heard. The majority have to vote so that the country is governed by majority views.

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Because people who are statistically more likely to exist in more poverty are aware of the stakes. People who have been dehumanized regularly understand what it means to lose bodily autonomy. Kind of like how a town with a remembered history of tsunamis understands what it means while a town without that same history doesn’t understand.

Which is probably why older women are also voting based on Dobbs. They remember.