2024 US News rankings

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Anonymous wrote:Twenty pages later, how did I know this thread would still be about UVA!

To be clear, most of the UVA mega threads are started by (the?) UVA basher(s). There is at least one poster on here who is fixated on rankings and putting down UVA. He attended Rice (which he constantly promotes) and was rejected by UVA and thinks that more STEM-focused schools should rank higher. He’s constantly promoting Cornell, MIT, Caltech, Stanford, UC-Berkeley and UM.

Also, some of what appears to be initial UVA support is a straw-man post by the basher so he can claim UVA boosterism and start his put downs. These initial posts likely come from the same poster because the original and bashing posts quickly follow each other. Also, the first post that supports UVA frequently comes early in the thread, which, again, is meant to generate antagonism toward UVA (they’re obnoxious).

Yes, UVA is a great school and elite, but much of the nuttiness generated around it is trolling.

UVA is definitely not elite. Control yourself - don't go overboard.

Says the UVA basher. I know your turns of phrase.

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Anonymous wrote:On the other hand, UVA funnels in dozens of geniuses from TJ every year, and all of those kids are more capable than any kid at Duke.

PP really thinks that TJ is the only school in this country with STEM geniuses, with its whopping one Regeneron finalist in the last three years!

TJ still gets the best talent of any high school and they flock to UVA. If Duke was better why wouldn't more kids from TJ go to Duke?

Your first statement is correct. However, TJ students do not flock to UVA because UVA has a weak STEM programs. In fact, when my kid was applying to colleges from TJ, very few top students would even bother applying to UVA and mostly average and below average kids applied. TJ students would rather attend VT or UMD to major in STEM than attend UVA and try to do CS or Engineering.

TJ kids attending UVA halved in the past 6-7 years and doubled to UMD.

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TJ sent as many students to William & Mary as UMD last year, which isn’t exactly known for STEM, and it also sent twice as many to UVA as Tech. UMD also offers merit aid, which UVA does not.

However, W&M is known for in-state tuitions. In addition, while your average TJ kids are merely embarrassed to attend UVA, they wouldn't be caught dead attending VT.

You are so transparently bitter. There are MANY TJ grads at VT. You seem absolutely clueless.
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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown REQUIRES EVERYONE to submit scores. It also looks at AP exam scores. It requires an interview. The fact that the entire student body is included in the test score average (and not just only a portion of admits with high scores that falsely inflate the average) is very impressive that GU’s are that high.

It is self selecting because kids with bad test scores can’t apply test optional so it weeds out a ton of applicants with inflated GPAs and bad test scores from even applying.

It actually should be ranked much higher because its selectivity is lower than the 11% due to those factors.

They also don't accept the common app, which adds to the self-selecting nature. I agree, it should be higher.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How did UMD do? Did they jump UVA?

Or are they now fighting it out with VA Tech for rankings? Pretty sure VA Tech has a 70% acceptance rate. Way to go Terps!

Hi, troll! VT's acceptance rate is 57%... but you knew that.

So they don’t even qualify as “selective”. Got it.

Wow. Someone doesn’t understand percentages or what “selective” means. I’m so sorry your kid was rejected.
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Anonymous wrote:Twenty pages later, how did I know this thread would still be about UVA!

Yep. A very triggered UVA booster!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Twenty pages later, how did I know this thread would still be about UVA!

To be clear, most of the UVA mega threads are started by (the?) UVA basher(s). There is at least one poster on here who is fixated on rankings and putting down UVA. He attended Rice (which he constantly promotes) and was rejected by UVA and thinks that more STEM-focused schools should rank higher. He’s constantly promoting Cornell, MIT, Caltech, Stanford, UC-Berkeley and UM.

Also, some of what appears to be initial UVA support is a straw-man post by the basher so he can claim UVA boosterism and start his put downs. These initial posts likely come from the same poster because the original and bashing posts quickly follow each other. Also, the first post that supports UVA frequently comes early in the thread, which, again, is meant to generate antagonism toward UVA (they’re obnoxious).

Yes, UVA is a great school and elite, but much of the nuttiness generated around it is trolling.

Oh, good grief. You have no idea who is posting what. Your last sentence says it all. You have truly had too much of your own kool aid.
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Anonymous wrote:On the other hand, UVA funnels in dozens of geniuses from TJ every year, and all of those kids are more capable than any kid at Duke.

PP really thinks that TJ is the only school in this country with STEM geniuses, with its whopping one Regeneron finalist in the last three years!

TJ still gets the best talent of any high school and they flock to UVA. If Duke was better why wouldn't more kids from TJ go to Duke?

Your first statement is correct. However, TJ students do not flock to UVA because UVA has a weak STEM programs. In fact, when my kid was applying to colleges from TJ, very few top students would even bother applying to UVA and mostly average and below average kids applied. TJ students would rather attend VT or UMD to major in STEM than attend UVA and try to do CS or Engineering.

TJ kids attending UVA halved in the past 6-7 years and doubled to UMD.

+1

TJ sent as many students to William & Mary as UMD last year, which isn’t exactly known for STEM, and it also sent twice as many to UVA as Tech. UMD also offers merit aid, which UVA does not.

However, W&M is known for in-state tuitions. In addition, while your average TJ kids are merely embarrassed to attend UVA, they wouldn't be caught dead attending VT.

You are so transparently bitter. There are MANY TJ grads at VT. You seem absolutely clueless.
DP

There are plenty of TJ bottom dwellers attending VT.

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Anonymous wrote:On the other hand, UVA funnels in dozens of geniuses from TJ every year, and all of those kids are more capable than any kid at Duke.

PP really thinks that TJ is the only school in this country with STEM geniuses, with its whopping one Regeneron finalist in the last three years!

TJ still gets the best talent of any high school and they flock to UVA. If Duke was better why wouldn't more kids from TJ go to Duke?

Your first statement is correct. However, TJ students do not flock to UVA because UVA has a weak STEM programs. In fact, when my kid was applying to colleges from TJ, very few top students would even bother applying to UVA and mostly average and below average kids applied. TJ students would rather attend VT or UMD to major in STEM than attend UVA and try to do CS or Engineering.

TJ kids attending UVA halved in the past 6-7 years and doubled to UMD.

+1

TJ sent as many students to William & Mary as UMD last year, which isn’t exactly known for STEM, and it also sent twice as many to UVA as Tech. UMD also offers merit aid, which UVA does not.

However, W&M is known for in-state tuitions. In addition, while your average TJ kids are merely embarrassed to attend UVA, they wouldn't be caught dead attending VT.

You are so transparently bitter. There are MANY TJ grads at VT. You seem absolutely clueless.
DP

There are plenty of TJ bottom dwellers attending VT.

Um, I’m a TJ parent and can see right through you. Plenty of TJ’s top kids are at VT. Just not yours.

[Anonymous]

So that anti-UVa troll mom who posts the green face emoji thing all over the place is a CoalitionFOURtj agitator. Checks out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So that anti-UVa troll mom who posts the green face emoji thing all over the place is a CoalitionFOURtj agitator. Checks out.

No one has any idea what you’re babbling about. Are you running low on meds?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Twenty pages later, how did I know this thread would still be about UVA!

To be clear, most of the UVA mega threads are started by (the?) UVA basher(s). There is at least one poster on here who is fixated on rankings and putting down UVA. He attended Rice (which he constantly promotes) and was rejected by UVA and thinks that more STEM-focused schools should rank higher. He’s constantly promoting Cornell, MIT, Caltech, Stanford, UC-Berkeley and UM.

Also, some of what appears to be initial UVA support is a straw-man post by the basher so he can claim UVA boosterism and start his put downs. These initial posts likely come from the same poster because the original and bashing posts quickly follow each other. Also, the first post that supports UVA frequently comes early in the thread, which, again, is meant to generate antagonism toward UVA (they’re obnoxious

Yes, UVA is a great school and elite, but much of the nuttiness generated around it is trolling.

UVA is definitely not elite. Control yourself - don't go overboard.

Says the UVA basher. I know your turns of phrase.

UVA was elite when it was a top 3 public university. Those days are gone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:On the other hand, UVA funnels in dozens of geniuses from TJ every year, and all of those kids are more capable than any kid at Duke.

PP really thinks that TJ is the only school in this country with STEM geniuses, with its whopping one Regeneron finalist in the last three years!

TJ still gets the best talent of any high school and they flock to UVA. If Duke was better why wouldn't more kids from TJ go to Duke?

Your first statement is correct. However, TJ students do not flock to UVA because UVA has a weak STEM programs. In fact, when my kid was applying to colleges from TJ, very few top students would even bother applying to UVA and mostly average and below average kids applied. TJ students would rather attend VT or UMD to major in STEM than attend UVA and try to do CS or Engineering.

TJ kids attending UVA halved in the past 6-7 years and doubled to UMD.

+1

TJ sent as many students to William & Mary as UMD last year, which isn’t exactly known for STEM, and it also sent twice as many to UVA as Tech. UMD also offers merit aid, which UVA does not.

However, W&M is known for in-state tuitions. In addition, while your average TJ kids are merely embarrassed to attend UVA, they wouldn't be caught dead attending VT.

You are so transparently bitter. There are MANY TJ grads at VT. You seem absolutely clueless.
DP

There are plenty of TJ bottom dwellers attending VT.

Um, I’m a TJ parent and can see right through you. Plenty of TJ’s top kids are at VT. Just not yours.

No, mine is at top 15 so no need to apply to VT or UVA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Twenty pages later, how did I know this thread would still be about UVA!

To be clear, most of the UVA mega threads are started by (the?) UVA basher(s). There is at least one poster on here who is fixated on rankings and putting down UVA. He attended Rice (which he constantly promotes) and was rejected by UVA and thinks that more STEM-focused schools should rank higher. He’s constantly promoting Cornell, MIT, Caltech, Stanford, UC-Berkeley and UM.

Also, some of what appears to be initial UVA support is a straw-man post by the basher so he can claim UVA boosterism and start his put downs. These initial posts likely come from the same poster because the original and bashing posts quickly follow each other. Also, the first post that supports UVA frequently comes early in the thread, which, again, is meant to generate antagonism toward UVA (they’re obnoxious

Yes, UVA is a great school and elite, but much of the nuttiness generated around it is trolling.

UVA is definitely not elite. Control yourself - don't go overboard.

Says the UVA basher. I know your turns of phrase.

UVA was elite when it was a top 3 public university. Those days are gone.

I think Texas, Florida, Illinois or UCSD/UCD/UCI will surpass UVA in few years. Their DEI scores are great and gettng better.

[Anonymous]

It's funny that you guys think the USN rankings were EVER strictly academic.

It's funny that you think academics can be measured across disciplines at schools of varying sizes, missions and budgets with different cohorts each year.

It's funny you think academics are qualitatively quantifiable in any way, especially in a way that says "Duke is 5 better than Columbia!"

Rankings are, and always have been, BS. Just ignore them. All of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yep. Reality for many UMC-MC families in the DMV. Over $150-175 HHI (which is pretty normal here), you will get ZERO aid. If you made less, you could go to Princeton or Hopkins or one of the many 'need blind" schools absolutely free. Otherwise, you can expect to pay ~$730,000 to put 2 kids through a private like Duke or an Ivy or BC or Georgetown, etc. And lest we forget that price is for today. It will be even higher in 5-10 years. A year of tuition will be crossing $100k in the near future.

Stop lying.
https://paw.princeton.edu/article/princeton-will-be-free-families-earning-under-100000

"The expanded financial aid program will also add support for families making more than $100,000 per year, and in particular, families earning $150,000 or less and those with multiple children in college. The average contribution of a Class of 2026 family making between $140,000 and $160,000 is currently $23,675; under the revised methodology, families with an income of $150,000 would pay $12,500 next fall. Even families making $300,000 annually would see a decrease in expected contributions — from $65,500 this year to $50,000 next year."