Kevin Costner divorce

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe all these people saying 1.6M is good money for 20 years of work for a middle aged woman who has no pension, no 401k, and gave up her career. I think fair would be 5-10M. I agree with PP that prenups should have force but I think in the family law context the judges can look to whether the terms are unconscionable in context. If I were KC’s lawyer, I’d advise settling it out in the 5-10 range. It’s possible they’ve tried that and she’s holding out for more.

She didn’t give up a career though. She never had one.

Her career was raising their kids and other family needs while he was gone for months.

Oh please, don’t be disingenuous! We are not talking about a run of the mill SAHP who stays at home and gives up their career because

a) it makes financial sense because of childcare costs;

b) parents decided at least one of them should stay home to provide care for their children in lieu of (extended) family, hired help, etc;

c) parents decided at least one of them should be home for their kids because the other parent couldn’t be as present.

I can understand b and c in their case, but that doesn’t change the HARD fact that this couple STILL had a ton of hired help, despite the fact that one parent was home 100% of the time. “They” (she) had personal assistant, nanny, maid, chef, and a chauffeur too (I bet).

Besides being emotionally and physically available, NOTHING else correlates to the typical SAHP experience: no cleaning, laundry, cooking, driving kids to and from while juggling multiple schedules and activities, no grocery shopping, errands to run. You know… stuff regular people do.

And having all this help is ok - I don’t see anything wrong with it if you have the means. I mean, what can be better than being able to enjoy time with your children without having to do the grind work? Anyone (or almost) who can afford would want that!

But once that 13y old began K, there was no reason for the mom to not work if that was her desire/goal… her kids were in school at least 6 hours per day and she had the luxury of a professional support system to deal with the other 2 or 3 hours of a typical work day (remember: nanny, personal assistant, chef, maid).

Or even work part time and start establishing a name for herself.

Who cares if they had tons of hired help? They could afford it. He was gone for months at a time. And, they had plenty of money so there was no need for her to work. So, she goes and works for $100K a year. You really think that's going to impact their lifestyle in any way?

Your value is for women to work regardless of the situation. That was not theirs nor their agreement when they got married and have kids.

I have teens and SAH. It's far more work with teens given they have 1-2 activities every day after school, some at 3:30 and then they are the every few week ortho appointments, etc. Its great if you have a flexible job but when I worked I didn't nor does my spouse. And, what I'd earn would cover a driver/nanny.

You can’t have it both ways. Either she was a SAHM sacrificing her life to do all for her kids. Or she was a SAHM with full household of staff to do everything for her/the kids. Btw her divorce filing outlines the needs that she has for staff to continue to care for her kids - including a scheduler. Because she is so busy doing…what?

Someone still had to handle all that. He wasn't around much between work and his affairs. Either way, regardless she raised those kids and managed everything. Their agreement was that she's stay home. He has plenty of money so what he offered for a house and other things was absurd especially when child support will stop.

Their agreement was also that she would have 1.6 mil upon divorce. So, she is getting what she agreed. No one force her to agree to this or to marry him in the first place.

Let’s not forget that she has tried to open a business twice (bankrolled by him ) and failed both times….

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe all these people saying 1.6M is good money for 20 years of work for a middle aged woman who has no pension, no 401k, and gave up her career. I think fair would be 5-10M. I agree with PP that prenups should have force but I think in the family law context the judges can look to whether the terms are unconscionable in context. If I were KC’s lawyer, I’d advise settling it out in the 5-10 range. It’s possible they’ve tried that and she’s holding out for more.

lol, what career? Did she even finish college or is she a state school flunky? She had all the time in the world while the "help" raised the kids and kept the mansions in order. She should have gotten a few degrees in the last 20 years, to set her up for a career.

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She wants the plastic surgery because she wants to bag a bachelor billionaire like Sanchez and Bezos.

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She should’ve kept her mouth shut and stayed married

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe all these people saying 1.6M is good money for 20 years of work for a middle aged woman who has no pension, no 401k, and gave up her career. I think fair would be 5-10M. I agree with PP that prenups should have force but I think in the family law context the judges can look to whether the terms are unconscionable in context. If I were KC’s lawyer, I’d advise settling it out in the 5-10 range. It’s possible they’ve tried that and she’s holding out for more.

lol, what career? Did she even finish college or is she a state school flunky? She had all the time in the world while the "help" raised the kids and kept the mansions in order. She should have gotten a few degrees in the last 20 years, to set her up for a career.

Shocking but even some powerful Washingtonians marry girls with only a high school/prep school diploma.

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https://pagesix.com/2023/08/11/kevin-costners-estranged-wife-admits-she-may-not-have-understood-the-prenup-she-signed/

Kevin Costner’s estranged wife, Christine Baumgartner, is arguing that she may not have understood their prenuptial agreement when he signed it in 2004.

“Christine asserts she cannot admit or deny that she understood the Premarital Agreement because she (and apparently all of her attorneys) do not understand the word ‘understand,'” the court docs read, per the outlet.

Costner’s lawyer, Laura Wasser, wrote in the filing, “Christine’s counsel asked for a definition of ‘understood’ and Kevin’s counsel provided the dictionary meaning of the word ‘understood,’ to wit, ‘comprehended or perceive the intended meaning of words.'”

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Sounds like she had gold digging dummy girlfriends in her ear convincing her she could easily crack the prenup or pressure the famous guy to give her a lump sum to go away. She is not a serious person.

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Anonymous wrote:https://pagesix.com/2023/08/11/kevin-costners-estranged-wife-admits-she-may-not-have-understood-the-prenup-she-signed/

Kevin Costner’s estranged wife, Christine Baumgartner, is arguing that she may not have understood their prenuptial agreement when he signed it in 2004.

“Christine asserts she cannot admit or deny that she understood the Premarital Agreement because she (and apparently all of her attorneys) do not understand the word ‘understand,'” the court docs read, per the outlet.

Costner’s lawyer, Laura Wasser, wrote in the filing, “Christine’s counsel asked for a definition of ‘understood’ and Kevin’s counsel provided the dictionary meaning of the word ‘understood,’ to wit, ‘comprehended or perceive the intended meaning of words.'”

Didn’t she have her own lawyer review the prenup before signing? I hope she has a good attorney now. Laura Wasser is one of the best.

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Anonymous wrote:https://pagesix.com/2023/08/11/kevin-costners-estranged-wife-admits-she-may-not-have-understood-the-prenup-she-signed/

Kevin Costner’s estranged wife, Christine Baumgartner, is arguing that she may not have understood their prenuptial agreement when he signed it in 2004.

“Christine asserts she cannot admit or deny that she understood the Premarital Agreement because she (and apparently all of her attorneys) do not understand the word ‘understand,'” the court docs read, per the outlet.

Costner’s lawyer, Laura Wasser, wrote in the filing, “Christine’s counsel asked for a definition of ‘understood’ and Kevin’s counsel provided the dictionary meaning of the word ‘understood,’ to wit, ‘comprehended or perceive the intended meaning of words.'”

She just flushed another 100k down the tubes. Who is her legal counsel that is advising her?!

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Christine trying everything to delay this divorce that she filed for. When she met with her attorney to discuss filing they didn’t go over the prenup in detail? She waits until after she filed to say she don’t understand the prenup? She’s a dumb.

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She only has a high school education. Three syllable words are difficult for her to "understand." She's not unlike girl school (high school) grads in the DC area who get married instead of going to college.

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Who’s paying her lawyer fees?

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Anonymous wrote: He claims she spent over $2 million on plastic surgery last year. He rips her for making public that he broke the news about their divorce to their kids on a 10-minute video call, saying that is "most upsetting to me" in this process.

but mostly, he does not want his child support payments to cover his soon-to-be ex-wife's cosmetic surgery procedures.

How does one possibly spend $2 million on plastic surgery?

See the Heather Dubrow thread on how she has so much money. Beverly Hills plastic surgeons cost $$$$.

Even with the top of the top $$$ surgeons there and in NYC, one of the most pricey procedures would be a facelift at around 100k. So I'm also wondering how you could hit 2 million or how your body could even support that in the span of a year.

I think lots of things fall under the “plastic surgery” umbrella that aren’t technically surgery- laser facials, microdermabrasion, cellulite treatment, fat freezing, micro needling, CO2 therapy, vitamin infusions, fat transfer, stem cell transfers- the list is endless. All said, even if she spent $10k per week, that would only be $500k a year. My guess is she was treating girlfriends /mom/sister as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Who’s paying her lawyer fees?

Right now Kevin is. If the judge upholds the prenup, she has to return the amount given to her in the prenup + pay his legal fees.

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He will not recover for this in the media. Most people feel that if you are married almost 20 years that you are a partner and partners should not be treated like some kind help. I agree she was clueless what she signed. A gold digger would not be married almost 20 years and a gold digger could continue
with the marriage because he is not there. Some of the facts are so bizarre. There was no house bought together in 29 years!! No car owned until she must have put her foot down to actually own something. He just comes across as old and cheap and mean. Yuck!! Good for her to have the courage to walk out. I hope she finds someone who will love her and not treat her like she should be happy to get a meal. Sad for their kids.