Wuhan virus (coronavirus) arrives in the USA

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Anonymous wrote:Italy exports cases to two more countries--Portugal and Andorra, both with their first cases. This brings export countries to about 33.

Moscow also reporting its first case--Russia has not reported any new cases beyond their original 2 weeks ago. No details, but could also be related to Italy.


India also was stuck at three cases from a while ago. It now has two cases, one imported from Italy and another from the UAE. Spread to India could be a big deal considering all the back office it supplies for companies everywhere.


Moscow case also a traveler from Italy.

Jordan and Senegal also report their first cases, both Italy related.

This should make around 37 countries where the virus has been exported from Italy.


Do we know why Italy was hit so hard? Or maybe it was one guy at a popular restaurant and he gave it to all the international tourists?
Neighbors took a week vacation to the usual tourist spots two weeks ago. Guess we'll see what happens.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Italy exports cases to two more countries--Portugal and Andorra, both with their first cases. This brings export countries to about 33.

Moscow also reporting its first case--Russia has not reported any new cases beyond their original 2 weeks ago. No details, but could also be related to Italy.


India also was stuck at three cases from a while ago. It now has two cases, one imported from Italy and another from the UAE. Spread to India could be a big deal considering all the back office it supplies for companies everywhere.


Moscow case also a traveler from Italy.

Jordan and Senegal also report their first cases, both Italy related.

This should make around 37 countries where the virus has been exported from Italy.


Morocco now added to the list for 38
Anonymous
According to the CDC: Most people who fall ill recover within two weeks. People with more severe cases generally recover in three to six weeks.

Based on data from roughly 17,000 reports, about 82 percent of the cases of novel coronavirus are considered mild, 15 percent are severe, 3 percent are critical, and less than 2 percent are fatal, according to Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, an epidemiologist who shared those numbers at a WHO press briefing on Feb. 7.

Seriously, people need to calm the F down.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:According to the CDC: Most people who fall ill recover within two weeks. People with more severe cases generally recover in three to six weeks.

Based on data from roughly 17,000 reports, about 82 percent of the cases of novel coronavirus are considered mild, 15 percent are severe, 3 percent are critical, and less than 2 percent are fatal, according to Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, an epidemiologist who shared those numbers at a WHO press briefing on Feb. 7.

Seriously, people need to calm the F down.


But 2% of a lot = a lot
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Anonymous wrote:For those keeping track, here is the breakdown of US cases:

Arizona – 1
California – 18
Florida — 2
Illinois — 4
Massachusetts —1
New York — 1
Oregon — 3
Rhode Island — 2
Washington state — 18 (includes 6 fatalities)
Wisconsin — 1
New Hampshire — 1

Here is the breakdown for our northern neighbor:

18 cases in Ontario
8 cases in British Columbia
1 case in Quebec


These are cases that originated in the US? Because your list doesn’t have the evacuees.
Anonymous
According to the CDC: Most people who fall ill recover within two weeks. People with more severe cases generally recover in three to six weeks.

Based on data from roughly 17,000 reports, about 82 percent of the cases of novel coronavirus are considered mild, 15 percent are severe, 3 percent are critical, and less than 2 percent are fatal, according to Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, an epidemiologist who shared those numbers at a WHO press briefing on Feb. 7.

Seriously, people need to calm the F down.


I don't think people are worried about dying. Your numbers add us to 102%. However, your numbers of severe, critical, and fatal are 20% and that could be a lot of people in the hospital and that is the problem . . . hospital space.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:According to the CDC: Most people who fall ill recover within two weeks. People with more severe cases generally recover in three to six weeks.

Based on data from roughly 17,000 reports, about 82 percent of the cases of novel coronavirus are considered mild, 15 percent are severe, 3 percent are critical, and less than 2 percent are fatal, according to Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, an epidemiologist who shared those numbers at a WHO press briefing on Feb. 7.

Seriously, people need to calm the F down.


Where are you going to put that 20% that needs hospital care?
I'm perfectly calm, but I'm prepared for things to get much worse.
Are you?
Anonymous
For people looking for mortality info, I think the Diamond Princess is a really interesting data point, because you have a defined population that has been tested and closely monitored and is now several weeks out from the exposure point. The last I saw is that they had 7 deaths, out of about 700 positives, so about 1%. I think that will probably go up a bit, and maybe hit 2-3%, as about 36 of those 700 are still critical. That population is probably fairly representative of what you would see in a population that gets aggressive medical care -- they probably skew older than average population, but they also probably skew more healthy and more educated/wealthy (which usually correlates with fewer pre-existing conditions and better baseline health).

Incidentally, Germany is doing really well -- remember they were one of the first outside China to see cases, with the guy at the Bavarian auto factory and his co-workers. France also had early cases, with the Chinese woman and her dad. They are both doing pretty well, a month later, with only 165 cases in Germany, and 191 cases in France, and only 1 death in France (I think the parent of that original infected person). I can't find it now, but I think each of those countries has conducted significant tests, not like the U.S. "we can't have any positive cases if we don't test anyone!" strategy.
Anonymous
Why is the CDC no longer telling the public how many people they are testing?
Anonymous
I'm worried because I don't see evidence that the US is doing ANYTHING like what the other countries are doing that are working hard to contain the virus - focused contact tracing and isolation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
According to the CDC: Most people who fall ill recover within two weeks. People with more severe cases generally recover in three to six weeks.

Based on data from roughly 17,000 reports, about 82 percent of the cases of novel coronavirus are considered mild, 15 percent are severe, 3 percent are critical, and less than 2 percent are fatal, according to Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, an epidemiologist who shared those numbers at a WHO press briefing on Feb. 7.

Seriously, people need to calm the F down.


I don't think people are worried about dying. Your numbers add us to 102%. However, your numbers of severe, critical, and fatal are 20% and that could be a lot of people in the hospital and that is the problem . . . hospital space.


+1

I have no interest in being severely or critically ill. If I'm that ill, my family would be thrown for a major loop, not to mention the likelihood another family member would get it. Have you ever had your whole family get the flu? I have, and it was awful. None of us needed to be hospitalized, most symptoms were gone in 5 days, and it was still horrible. COVID-19 would be much worse on all accounts.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Italy exports cases to two more countries--Portugal and Andorra, both with their first cases. This brings export countries to about 33.

Moscow also reporting its first case--Russia has not reported any new cases beyond their original 2 weeks ago. No details, but could also be related to Italy.


India also was stuck at three cases from a while ago. It now has two cases, one imported from Italy and another from the UAE. Spread to India could be a big deal considering all the back office it supplies for companies everywhere.


Moscow case also a traveler from Italy.

Jordan and Senegal also report their first cases, both Italy related.

This should make around 37 countries where the virus has been exported from Italy.


Do we know why Italy was hit so hard? Or maybe it was one guy at a popular restaurant and he gave it to all the international tourists?
Neighbors took a week vacation to the usual tourist spots two weeks ago. Guess we'll see what happens.


I understand that Patient 1 gave it to his pregnant wife and his running partner. The running partner gave it to his father, who then passed it on to various people at a bar he frequented.

In addition, Patient 1 went to an emergency room where he infected people and later checked into the hospital, where he infected hospital staff, who in turn infected patients. Patient 1 was tested only when he remembered that he had had dinner with a colleague who had been to China.

Authorities thought the colleague might be Patient Zero, but he has been tested multiple times and each time has come out negative. At this point the Italian authorities have given up the hunt for Patient Zero.

Patient 1 is said to be in critical condition despite being young and fit. Although he is not Patient Zero, he was the source of much of the spread.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:For those keeping track, here is the breakdown of US cases:

Arizona – 1
California – 18
Florida — 2
Illinois — 4
Massachusetts —1
New York — 1
Oregon — 3
Rhode Island — 2
Washington state — 18 (includes 6 fatalities)
Wisconsin — 1
New Hampshire — 1

Here is the breakdown for our northern neighbor:

18 cases in Ontario
8 cases in British Columbia
1 case in Quebec


These are cases that originated in the US? Because your list doesn’t have the evacuees.


Correct, no evacuees.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm worried because I don't see evidence that the US is doing ANYTHING like what the other countries are doing that are working hard to contain the virus - focused contact tracing and isolation.


I believe Washington state and California are doing a huge amount of contact tracing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A bit over a month ago, I suggested we start building hospitals in 10 days like the Chinese, and people here called me crazy. Washington state is now purchasing a motel and starting to construct modular facilities.


And as then it was insane as is now. You can easily utilize existing structures, modular units is not the same as building.
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