Official Abortion Thread

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Anonymous wrote:Ejaculation does not cause pregnancy. Men ejaculate constantly and nobody gets pregnant.

Sex causes pregnancy.

Here we are in lala liberal land- where it’s perfectly acceptable to state a man is solely responsible for pregnancy.

It’s so delusional. No wonder women can’t take responsibility- they are deemed as completely removed from pregnancy.



If it’s sex and not ejaculation that causes pregnancy, why don’t lesbians get pregnant when they have sex? Seems like there’s a component missing there.


Sexual intercourse (or coitus or copulation) is principally the insertion and thrusting of the penis, usually when erect, into the vagina for sexual pleasure, reproduction, or both.[1] This is also known as vaginal intercourse or vaginal sex.[2][3] Other forms of penetrative sexual intercourse include anal sex (penetration of the anus by the penis), oral sex (penetration of the mouth by the penis or oral penetration of the female genitalia), fingering (sexual penetration by the fingers), and penetration by use of a dildo (especially a strap-on dildo).[4][5][6] These activities involve physical intimacy between two or more individuals and are usually used among humans solely for physical or emotional pleasure and can contribute to human bonding.[4][7]


Lesbian sex, gay sex, etc, that’s sexual activity. It’s not sex.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_intercourse


So you're saying that pregnancy requires a penis ejaculating into a vagina. Interesting.


I take it you are one of those liberals that doesn’t know how babies are made. It’s all a mystery, eh?

The stork was a lie, in case you are wondering.


I don't know what your point is. Are you saying that you can get pregnant without ejaculate?


You absolutely know the sperm and egg meet and fertilization occurs.

If it’s rape that’s one thing. But consensual sex takes 2 and both are needed for pregnancy to occur.

Under what circumstance beside rape does a man ejaculate in a woman? Sex, of course.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ejaculation does not cause pregnancy. Men ejaculate constantly and nobody gets pregnant.

Sex causes pregnancy.

Here we are in lala liberal land- where it’s perfectly acceptable to state a man is solely responsible for pregnancy.

It’s so delusional. No wonder women can’t take responsibility- they are deemed as completely removed from pregnancy.



If it’s sex and not ejaculation that causes pregnancy, why don’t lesbians get pregnant when they have sex? Seems like there’s a component missing there.


Sexual intercourse (or coitus or copulation) is principally the insertion and thrusting of the penis, usually when erect, into the vagina for sexual pleasure, reproduction, or both.[1] This is also known as vaginal intercourse or vaginal sex.[2][3] Other forms of penetrative sexual intercourse include anal sex (penetration of the anus by the penis), oral sex (penetration of the mouth by the penis or oral penetration of the female genitalia), fingering (sexual penetration by the fingers), and penetration by use of a dildo (especially a strap-on dildo).[4][5][6] These activities involve physical intimacy between two or more individuals and are usually used among humans solely for physical or emotional pleasure and can contribute to human bonding.[4][7]


Lesbian sex, gay sex, etc, that’s sexual activity. It’s not sex.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_intercourse


How do you not even have the reading comprehension skills for sonething that you posted? Do you see where it says other forms include?


Some people eschew reading comprehension for fear of catching liberalism.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ejaculation does not cause pregnancy. Men ejaculate constantly and nobody gets pregnant.

Sex causes pregnancy.

Here we are in lala liberal land- where it’s perfectly acceptable to state a man is solely responsible for pregnancy.

It’s so delusional. No wonder women can’t take responsibility- they are deemed as completely removed from pregnancy.



If it’s sex and not ejaculation that causes pregnancy, why don’t lesbians get pregnant when they have sex? Seems like there’s a component missing there.


Sexual intercourse (or coitus or copulation) is principally the insertion and thrusting of the penis, usually when erect, into the vagina for sexual pleasure, reproduction, or both.[1] This is also known as vaginal intercourse or vaginal sex.[2][3] Other forms of penetrative sexual intercourse include anal sex (penetration of the anus by the penis), oral sex (penetration of the mouth by the penis or oral penetration of the female genitalia), fingering (sexual penetration by the fingers), and penetration by use of a dildo (especially a strap-on dildo).[4][5][6] These activities involve physical intimacy between two or more individuals and are usually used among humans solely for physical or emotional pleasure and can contribute to human bonding.[4][7]


Lesbian sex, gay sex, etc, that’s sexual activity. It’s not sex.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_intercourse


So you're saying that pregnancy requires a penis ejaculating into a vagina. Interesting.


I take it you are one of those liberals that doesn’t know how babies are made. It’s all a mystery, eh?

The stork was a lie, in case you are wondering.


I don't know what your point is. Are you saying that you can get pregnant without ejaculate?


You absolutely know the sperm and egg meet and fertilization occurs.

If it’s rape that’s one thing. But consensual sex takes 2 and both are needed for pregnancy to occur.

Under what circumstance beside rape does a man ejaculate in a woman? Sex, of course.


You can get pregnant from a man ejaculating outside the vagina if it he does it on the vulva. It's harder for the sperm to get there so the risk is lower, but penetration isn't strictly necessary for conception.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ejaculation does not cause pregnancy. Men ejaculate constantly and nobody gets pregnant.

Sex causes pregnancy.

Here we are in lala liberal land- where it’s perfectly acceptable to state a man is solely responsible for pregnancy.

It’s so delusional. No wonder women can’t take responsibility- they are deemed as completely removed from pregnancy.



If it’s sex and not ejaculation that causes pregnancy, why don’t lesbians get pregnant when they have sex? Seems like there’s a component missing there.


Sexual intercourse (or coitus or copulation) is principally the insertion and thrusting of the penis, usually when erect, into the vagina for sexual pleasure, reproduction, or both.[1] This is also known as vaginal intercourse or vaginal sex.[2][3] Other forms of penetrative sexual intercourse include anal sex (penetration of the anus by the penis), oral sex (penetration of the mouth by the penis or oral penetration of the female genitalia), fingering (sexual penetration by the fingers), and penetration by use of a dildo (especially a strap-on dildo).[4][5][6] These activities involve physical intimacy between two or more individuals and are usually used among humans solely for physical or emotional pleasure and can contribute to human bonding.[4][7]


Lesbian sex, gay sex, etc, that’s sexual activity. It’s not sex.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_intercourse


So you're saying that pregnancy requires a penis ejaculating into a vagina. Interesting.


I take it you are one of those liberals that doesn’t know how babies are made. It’s all a mystery, eh?

The stork was a lie, in case you are wondering.


I don't know what your point is. Are you saying that you can get pregnant without ejaculate?


You absolutely know the sperm and egg meet and fertilization occurs.

If it’s rape that’s one thing. But consensual sex takes 2 and both are needed for pregnancy to occur.

Under what circumstance beside rape does a man ejaculate in a woman? Sex, of course.


You can get pregnant from a man ejaculating outside the vagina if it he does it on the vulva. It's harder for the sperm to get there so the risk is lower, but penetration isn't strictly necessary for conception.



So the man has to ejaculate in a special place to cause prehistoric?

If a man ejaculates on it in a woman without her consent- it’s rape.

If a man and woman have consensual sexual, the woman allows a man to ejaculate on her or in her.

It’s a process that takes to consenting adults.

I understand women are helpless, ignorant creatures that are unaware of that process. I guess that’s why America has close to a million abortions per year.
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Anonymous wrote:While parents have the right to make important decisions about their children's lives, they also have certain legal duties. Parents are legally required to support their minor children. Supporting your kids includes providing food, clothing, shelter, and basic care. Failing to provide for your kids can lead to neglect or abuse charges in most states.

You do “own” your child. You are legally responsible for your child and your child’s body, wellbeing, etc, for 18 years.

Failing to care for your child is against the law.


If you owned your child, the state couldn't take your child from you for failure to care for them properly. The state can intervene specifically because you do not "own" your child. Your child is an independent human being with their own rights independent of their parents.



And that’s why when a pregnant woman is murdered it’s double homicide. Or if a pregnant woman loses her baby because of another person’s interference with bad intent, violence, poisoning, etc.

Unborn babies have rights also.


Do they have the right not to be jailed along with their mother?

Do they have the right to be in the HOV lane?

What rights do babies actually born have? Do they have the right to not live in poverty?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ejaculation does not cause pregnancy. Men ejaculate constantly and nobody gets pregnant.

Sex causes pregnancy.

Here we are in lala liberal land- where it’s perfectly acceptable to state a man is solely responsible for pregnancy.

It’s so delusional. No wonder women can’t take responsibility- they are deemed as completely removed from pregnancy.



If it’s sex and not ejaculation that causes pregnancy, why don’t lesbians get pregnant when they have sex? Seems like there’s a component missing there.


Sexual intercourse (or coitus or copulation) is principally the insertion and thrusting of the penis, usually when erect, into the vagina for sexual pleasure, reproduction, or both.[1] This is also known as vaginal intercourse or vaginal sex.[2][3] Other forms of penetrative sexual intercourse include anal sex (penetration of the anus by the penis), oral sex (penetration of the mouth by the penis or oral penetration of the female genitalia), fingering (sexual penetration by the fingers), and penetration by use of a dildo (especially a strap-on dildo).[4][5][6] These activities involve physical intimacy between two or more individuals and are usually used among humans solely for physical or emotional pleasure and can contribute to human bonding.[4][7]


Lesbian sex, gay sex, etc, that’s sexual activity. It’s not sex.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_intercourse


So you're saying that pregnancy requires a penis ejaculating into a vagina. Interesting.


I take it you are one of those liberals that doesn’t know how babies are made. It’s all a mystery, eh?

The stork was a lie, in case you are wondering.


I don't know what your point is. Are you saying that you can get pregnant without ejaculate?


You absolutely know the sperm and egg meet and fertilization occurs.

If it’s rape that’s one thing. But consensual sex takes 2 and both are needed for pregnancy to occur.

Under what circumstance beside rape does a man ejaculate in a woman? Sex, of course.


You can get pregnant from a man ejaculating outside the vagina if it he does it on the vulva. It's harder for the sperm to get there so the risk is lower, but penetration isn't strictly necessary for conception.



So the man has to ejaculate in a special place to cause prehistoric?

If a man ejaculates on it in a woman without her consent- it’s rape.

If a man and woman have consensual sexual, the woman allows a man to ejaculate on her or in her.

It’s a process that takes to consenting adults.

I understand women are helpless, ignorant creatures that are unaware of that process. I guess that’s why America has close to a million abortions per year.


You’re evading the point. Pregnancy doesn’t happen without ejaculate. If an unwanted pregnancy occurs, it’s because a man was at best negligent about where and under what conditions he ejaculated. That doesn’t mean that the woman may not have been negligent as well, but any negligence on her part doesn’t not excuse him. If a man can’t be responsible and keep it in his pants when he doesn’t want to get a woman pregnant, then there should be consequences. Just like for women.

Why do you hold women to a higher standard than men? Do you think so little of men that they’re not capable of as much rationality and self-control as women? Are men the weaker sex?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ejaculation does not cause pregnancy. Men ejaculate constantly and nobody gets pregnant.

Sex causes pregnancy.

Here we are in lala liberal land- where it’s perfectly acceptable to state a man is solely responsible for pregnancy.

It’s so delusional. No wonder women can’t take responsibility- they are deemed as completely removed from pregnancy.



If it’s sex and not ejaculation that causes pregnancy, why don’t lesbians get pregnant when they have sex? Seems like there’s a component missing there.


Sexual intercourse (or coitus or copulation) is principally the insertion and thrusting of the penis, usually when erect, into the vagina for sexual pleasure, reproduction, or both.[1] This is also known as vaginal intercourse or vaginal sex.[2][3] Other forms of penetrative sexual intercourse include anal sex (penetration of the anus by the penis), oral sex (penetration of the mouth by the penis or oral penetration of the female genitalia), fingering (sexual penetration by the fingers), and penetration by use of a dildo (especially a strap-on dildo).[4][5][6] These activities involve physical intimacy between two or more individuals and are usually used among humans solely for physical or emotional pleasure and can contribute to human bonding.[4][7]


Lesbian sex, gay sex, etc, that’s sexual activity. It’s not sex.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_intercourse


So you're saying that pregnancy requires a penis ejaculating into a vagina. Interesting.


I take it you are one of those liberals that doesn’t know how babies are made. It’s all a mystery, eh?

The stork was a lie, in case you are wondering.


I don't know what your point is. Are you saying that you can get pregnant without ejaculate?


You absolutely know the sperm and egg meet and fertilization occurs.

If it’s rape that’s one thing. But consensual sex takes 2 and both are needed for pregnancy to occur.

Under what circumstance beside rape does a man ejaculate in a woman? Sex, of course.


You can get pregnant from a man ejaculating outside the vagina if it he does it on the vulva. It's harder for the sperm to get there so the risk is lower, but penetration isn't strictly necessary for conception.



So the man has to ejaculate in a special place to cause prehistoric?

If a man ejaculates on it in a woman without her consent- it’s rape.

If a man and woman have consensual sexual, the woman allows a man to ejaculate on her or in her.

It’s a process that takes to consenting adults.

I understand women are helpless, ignorant creatures that are unaware of that process. I guess that’s why America has close to a million abortions per year.


The point is men are responsible for creating pregnancy by ejaculating. Hence Mandatory Universal Vasectomy (MUV) is the only reasonable solution to make sure men don't use abortion as birth control.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:While parents have the right to make important decisions about their children's lives, they also have certain legal duties. Parents are legally required to support their minor children. Supporting your kids includes providing food, clothing, shelter, and basic care. Failing to provide for your kids can lead to neglect or abuse charges in most states.

You do “own” your child. You are legally responsible for your child and your child’s body, wellbeing, etc, for 18 years.

Failing to care for your child is against the law.


If you owned your child, the state couldn't take your child from you for failure to care for them properly. The state can intervene specifically because you do not "own" your child. Your child is an independent human being with their own rights independent of their parents.



And that’s why when a pregnant woman is murdered it’s double homicide. Or if a pregnant woman loses her baby because of another person’s interference with bad intent, violence, poisoning, etc.

Unborn babies have rights also.


Do they have the right not to be jailed along with their mother?

Do they have the right to be in the HOV lane?

What rights do babies actually born have? Do they have the right to not live in poverty?


Nope, pregnant women can’t be jailed under this law. Since you can’t arrest and imprison a pregnant women without doing the same to her unborn child, doing so would violate the fetus’s Fourth Amendment right against unreasonable search and seizure.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:While parents have the right to make important decisions about their children's lives, they also have certain legal duties. Parents are legally required to support their minor children. Supporting your kids includes providing food, clothing, shelter, and basic care. Failing to provide for your kids can lead to neglect or abuse charges in most states.

You do “own” your child. You are legally responsible for your child and your child’s body, wellbeing, etc, for 18 years.

Failing to care for your child is against the law.


If you owned your child, the state couldn't take your child from you for failure to care for them properly. The state can intervene specifically because you do not "own" your child. Your child is an independent human being with their own rights independent of their parents.



And that’s why when a pregnant woman is murdered it’s double homicide. Or if a pregnant woman loses her baby because of another person’s interference with bad intent, violence, poisoning, etc.

Unborn babies have rights also.


Do they have the right not to be jailed along with their mother?

Do they have the right to be in the HOV lane?

What rights do babies actually born have? Do they have the right to not live in poverty?


Nope, pregnant women can’t be jailed under this law. Since you can’t arrest and imprison a pregnant women without doing the same to her unborn child, doing so would violate the fetus’s Fourth Amendment right against unreasonable search and seizure.


This is actually where you end up when you go down the fetal personhood rabbit hole.

Be careful what you ask for.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ejaculation does not cause pregnancy. Men ejaculate constantly and nobody gets pregnant.

Sex causes pregnancy.

Here we are in lala liberal land- where it’s perfectly acceptable to state a man is solely responsible for pregnancy.

It’s so delusional. No wonder women can’t take responsibility- they are deemed as completely removed from pregnancy.



If it’s sex and not ejaculation that causes pregnancy, why don’t lesbians get pregnant when they have sex? Seems like there’s a component missing there.


Sexual intercourse (or coitus or copulation) is principally the insertion and thrusting of the penis, usually when erect, into the vagina for sexual pleasure, reproduction, or both.[1] This is also known as vaginal intercourse or vaginal sex.[2][3] Other forms of penetrative sexual intercourse include anal sex (penetration of the anus by the penis), oral sex (penetration of the mouth by the penis or oral penetration of the female genitalia), fingering (sexual penetration by the fingers), and penetration by use of a dildo (especially a strap-on dildo).[4][5][6] These activities involve physical intimacy between two or more individuals and are usually used among humans solely for physical or emotional pleasure and can contribute to human bonding.[4][7]


Lesbian sex, gay sex, etc, that’s sexual activity. It’s not sex.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_intercourse


How do you not even have the reading comprehension skills for sonething that you posted? Do you see where it says other forms include?


Some people eschew reading comprehension for fear of catching liberalism.



Thread winner.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I hear migrant children have heartbeats too.



Lol, you think the "pro life" crowd cares about migrant embryos and fetuses?


It’s clear they don’t value ALL life.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If one subscribes to the theory of "actions have consequences", then this issue is easy. The devil is in the details and when you poke holes in it, I'm concern about the future of our society.


Yes, but the action between 2 people only has consequences for one of the participants a huge portion of the time. If we want to teach the consequences lesson, the men involved should also have real consequences.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If one subscribes to the theory of "actions have consequences", then this issue is easy. The devil is in the details and when you poke holes in it, I'm concern about the future of our society.


Yes, but the action between 2 people only has consequences for one of the participants a huge portion of the time. If we want to teach the consequences lesson, the men involved should also have real consequences.

Yep. And following the “logic” of these talibama laws, the guy who got the lady pregnant should face the death penalty or life in prison.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If one subscribes to the theory of "actions have consequences", then this issue is easy. The devil is in the details and when you poke holes in it, I'm concern about the future of our society.


Yes, but the action between 2 people only has consequences for one of the participants a huge portion of the time. If we want to teach the consequences lesson, the men involved should also have real consequences.



Yes, women clearly have big consequences. Why don’t men?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ejaculation does not cause pregnancy. Men ejaculate constantly and nobody gets pregnant.

Sex causes pregnancy.

Here we are in lala liberal land- where it’s perfectly acceptable to state a man is solely responsible for pregnancy.

It’s so delusional. No wonder women can’t take responsibility- they are deemed as completely removed from pregnancy.



If it’s sex and not ejaculation that causes pregnancy, why don’t lesbians get pregnant when they have sex? Seems like there’s a component missing there.


Sexual intercourse (or coitus or copulation) is principally the insertion and thrusting of the penis, usually when erect, into the vagina for sexual pleasure, reproduction, or both.[1] This is also known as vaginal intercourse or vaginal sex.[2][3] Other forms of penetrative sexual intercourse include anal sex (penetration of the anus by the penis), oral sex (penetration of the mouth by the penis or oral penetration of the female genitalia), fingering (sexual penetration by the fingers), and penetration by use of a dildo (especially a strap-on dildo).[4][5][6] These activities involve physical intimacy between two or more individuals and are usually used among humans solely for physical or emotional pleasure and can contribute to human bonding.[4][7]


Lesbian sex, gay sex, etc, that’s sexual activity. It’s not sex.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_intercourse


So you're saying that pregnancy requires a penis ejaculating into a vagina. Interesting.


I take it you are one of those liberals that doesn’t know how babies are made. It’s all a mystery, eh?

The stork was a lie, in case you are wondering.


I don't know what your point is. Are you saying that you can get pregnant without ejaculate?


You absolutely know the sperm and egg meet and fertilization occurs.

If it’s rape that’s one thing. But consensual sex takes 2 and both are needed for pregnancy to occur.

Under what circumstance beside rape does a man ejaculate in a woman? Sex, of course.


You can get pregnant from a man ejaculating outside the vagina if it he does it on the vulva. It's harder for the sperm to get there so the risk is lower, but penetration isn't strictly necessary for conception.



So the man has to ejaculate in a special place to cause prehistoric?

If a man ejaculates on it in a woman without her consent- it’s rape.

If a man and woman have consensual sexual, the woman allows a man to ejaculate on her or in her.

It’s a process that takes to consenting adults.

I understand women are helpless, ignorant creatures that are unaware of that process. I guess that’s why America has close to a million abortions per year.


The point is men are responsible for creating pregnancy by ejaculating. Hence Mandatory Universal Vasectomy (MUV) is the only reasonable solution to make sure men don't use abortion as birth control.



Exactly. Why are MEN using abortions as birth control? If they were responsible and actually used a condom + spermicide or got a vasectomy then we’d significantly cut down on the number of unwanted pregnancies and abortions. If they can’t act responsive we should implement MUV.

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