You absolutely know the sperm and egg meet and fertilization occurs. If it’s rape that’s one thing. But consensual sex takes 2 and both are needed for pregnancy to occur. Under what circumstance beside rape does a man ejaculate in a woman? Sex, of course. |
Some people eschew reading comprehension for fear of catching liberalism. |
You can get pregnant from a man ejaculating outside the vagina if it he does it on the vulva. It's harder for the sperm to get there so the risk is lower, but penetration isn't strictly necessary for conception. |
So the man has to ejaculate in a special place to cause prehistoric? If a man ejaculates on it in a woman without her consent- it’s rape. If a man and woman have consensual sexual, the woman allows a man to ejaculate on her or in her. It’s a process that takes to consenting adults. I understand women are helpless, ignorant creatures that are unaware of that process. I guess that’s why America has close to a million abortions per year. |
Do they have the right not to be jailed along with their mother? Do they have the right to be in the HOV lane? What rights do babies actually born have? Do they have the right to not live in poverty? |
You’re evading the point. Pregnancy doesn’t happen without ejaculate. If an unwanted pregnancy occurs, it’s because a man was at best negligent about where and under what conditions he ejaculated. That doesn’t mean that the woman may not have been negligent as well, but any negligence on her part doesn’t not excuse him. If a man can’t be responsible and keep it in his pants when he doesn’t want to get a woman pregnant, then there should be consequences. Just like for women. Why do you hold women to a higher standard than men? Do you think so little of men that they’re not capable of as much rationality and self-control as women? Are men the weaker sex? |
The point is men are responsible for creating pregnancy by ejaculating. Hence Mandatory Universal Vasectomy (MUV) is the only reasonable solution to make sure men don't use abortion as birth control. |
Nope, pregnant women can’t be jailed under this law. Since you can’t arrest and imprison a pregnant women without doing the same to her unborn child, doing so would violate the fetus’s Fourth Amendment right against unreasonable search and seizure. |
This is actually where you end up when you go down the fetal personhood rabbit hole. Be careful what you ask for. |
Thread winner.
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It’s clear they don’t value ALL life. |
Yes, but the action between 2 people only has consequences for one of the participants a huge portion of the time. If we want to teach the consequences lesson, the men involved should also have real consequences. |
Yep. And following the “logic” of these talibama laws, the guy who got the lady pregnant should face the death penalty or life in prison. |
Yes, women clearly have big consequences. Why don’t men? |
Exactly. Why are MEN using abortions as birth control? If they were responsible and actually used a condom + spermicide or got a vasectomy then we’d significantly cut down on the number of unwanted pregnancies and abortions. If they can’t act responsive we should implement MUV. |