Girls' Academy has also been approved to become a U.S. Soccer member!

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Anonymous wrote:Adding Bayside FC continues this narrative of this shadow war on the boys side. Bayside FC has MLS Next. None of the clubs that have switched to ECNL from GA have MLSN on the boys side and none of the clubs that have come into GA or DPL have any ECNL affiliation from the boys side, NL or RL.

Yep, and just wait until NWSL Next happens.

It's becoming very clear what's going to happen next.

I think everything could change overnight.

All NWSL has to do is implement a homegrown rule and say that they'll have Acadamies in the next season.

And boom everything in girls you soccer would be flipped on it head.

While I do have my doubts, I'm not ruling that out. It would be a win win for them, they wouldn't have to put much into it at first, just wait and see how it blooms and then start figuring out the rest. People keep talking about the financials but nobody is expecting fully funded NWSL academies from the beginning. We all already pay a large sum to participate and would continue to do so.


That's now really how it works. It needs to be truly differentiated from any other local club. As another poster pointed, Washington Spirit Academy was terrible. If you are charging people money then they would have to beat expectations. Paying to be a part of a start up in a already saturated market does not lead to immediate success.

The only way a NWSL Academy system will get off the ground is to be either fully funded or much much cheaper than other competing youth clubs.

NWSL is still competing with College recruitment for player's goals and objectives. If the academy has no track record or a true ability to showcase competitively it will fail upon launch. The hope of being pro is just not enough with the few limited pro opportunities available. And if the academy can't draw the interest of the best players regionally then it will not serve the purpose to the pro club either.

If it's free then that changes the dynamic of the player is no longer the consumer, but as long as the player is the consumer Spirit would have to offer one hell of bang for the buck in comparison to other clubs who can do the same thing for their player.

I just don't see this changing overnight. It is going to be a long and thoughtful process for NWSL to launch any meaningful academy system. Yes, it will happen but it will take a decade and there is nothing wrong with that. It would be better to to roll it out slowly and get it right than try and rush it, waste time, money and look bad. NWSL would never recover from a a faceplant.

I think everything could change overnight.

All NWSL has to do is implement a homegrown rule and say that they'll have Acadamies in the next season.

And boom everything in girls you soccer would be flipped on it head.


What else would flip girls soccer on its head? NCAA losing its bid for an anti-trust exemption.


Football isn't going anywhere and neither is title IX.


Of course it isn't. But when you have to identify students as employees, schools will cut the fat and the money makers will stay. Soccer isn't one of the money makers. Title IX will be fine, schools will just implement intramural sports for women.
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Anonymous wrote:Adding Bayside FC continues this narrative of this shadow war on the boys side. Bayside FC has MLS Next. None of the clubs that have switched to ECNL from GA have MLSN on the boys side and none of the clubs that have come into GA or DPL have any ECNL affiliation from the boys side, NL or RL.

Yep, and just wait until NWSL Next happens.

It's becoming very clear what's going to happen next.

I think everything could change overnight.

All NWSL has to do is implement a homegrown rule and say that they'll have Acadamies in the next season.

And boom everything in girls you soccer would be flipped on it head.

While I do have my doubts, I'm not ruling that out. It would be a win win for them, they wouldn't have to put much into it at first, just wait and see how it blooms and then start figuring out the rest. People keep talking about the financials but nobody is expecting fully funded NWSL academies from the beginning. We all already pay a large sum to participate and would continue to do so.


That's now really how it works. It needs to be truly differentiated from any other local club. As another poster pointed, Washington Spirit Academy was terrible. If you are charging people money then they would have to beat expectations. Paying to be a part of a start up in a already saturated market does not lead to immediate success.

The only way a NWSL Academy system will get off the ground is to be either fully funded or much much cheaper than other competing youth clubs.

NWSL is still competing with College recruitment for player's goals and objectives. If the academy has no track record or a true ability to showcase competitively it will fail upon launch. The hope of being pro is just not enough with the few limited pro opportunities available. And if the academy can't draw the interest of the best players regionally then it will not serve the purpose to the pro club either.

If it's free then that changes the dynamic of the player is no longer the consumer, but as long as the player is the consumer Spirit would have to offer one hell of bang for the buck in comparison to other clubs who can do the same thing for their player.

I just don't see this changing overnight. It is going to be a long and thoughtful process for NWSL to launch any meaningful academy system. Yes, it will happen but it will take a decade and there is nothing wrong with that. It would be better to to roll it out slowly and get it right than try and rush it, waste time, money and look bad. NWSL would never recover from a a faceplant.

I think everything could change overnight.

All NWSL has to do is implement a homegrown rule and say that they'll have Acadamies in the next season.

And boom everything in girls you soccer would be flipped on it head.


What else would flip girls soccer on its head? NCAA losing its bid for an anti-trust exemption.


Football isn't going anywhere and neither is title IX.


Of course it isn't. But when you have to identify students as employees, schools will cut the fat and the money makers will stay. Soccer isn't one of the money makers. Title IX will be fine, schools will just implement intramural sports for women.


That will not work. Has to be the same not similar.
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Anonymous wrote:Adding Bayside FC continues this narrative of this shadow war on the boys side. Bayside FC has MLS Next. None of the clubs that have switched to ECNL from GA have MLSN on the boys side and none of the clubs that have come into GA or DPL have any ECNL affiliation from the boys side, NL or RL.

Yep, and just wait until NWSL Next happens.

It's becoming very clear what's going to happen next.

I think everything could change overnight.

All NWSL has to do is implement a homegrown rule and say that they'll have Acadamies in the next season.

And boom everything in girls you soccer would be flipped on it head.

While I do have my doubts, I'm not ruling that out. It would be a win win for them, they wouldn't have to put much into it at first, just wait and see how it blooms and then start figuring out the rest. People keep talking about the financials but nobody is expecting fully funded NWSL academies from the beginning. We all already pay a large sum to participate and would continue to do so.


That's now really how it works. It needs to be truly differentiated from any other local club. As another poster pointed, Washington Spirit Academy was terrible. If you are charging people money then they would have to beat expectations. Paying to be a part of a start up in a already saturated market does not lead to immediate success.

The only way a NWSL Academy system will get off the ground is to be either fully funded or much much cheaper than other competing youth clubs.

NWSL is still competing with College recruitment for player's goals and objectives. If the academy has no track record or a true ability to showcase competitively it will fail upon launch. The hope of being pro is just not enough with the few limited pro opportunities available. And if the academy can't draw the interest of the best players regionally then it will not serve the purpose to the pro club either.

If it's free then that changes the dynamic of the player is no longer the consumer, but as long as the player is the consumer Spirit would have to offer one hell of bang for the buck in comparison to other clubs who can do the same thing for their player.

I just don't see this changing overnight. It is going to be a long and thoughtful process for NWSL to launch any meaningful academy system. Yes, it will happen but it will take a decade and there is nothing wrong with that. It would be better to to roll it out slowly and get it right than try and rush it, waste time, money and look bad. NWSL would never recover from a a faceplant.

I think everything could change overnight.

All NWSL has to do is implement a homegrown rule and say that they'll have Acadamies in the next season.

And boom everything in girls you soccer would be flipped on it head.


What else would flip girls soccer on its head? NCAA losing its bid for an anti-trust exemption.


Football isn't going anywhere and neither is title IX.


Of course it isn't. But when you have to identify students as employees, schools will cut the fat and the money makers will stay. Soccer isn't one of the money makers. Title IX will be fine, schools will just implement intramural sports for women.


That will not work. Has to be the same not similar.


How would it not be similar any longer? If schools cut soccer programs for men and women and then only offer them as intramural, how is that not the same?
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Anonymous wrote:Adding Bayside FC continues this narrative of this shadow war on the boys side. Bayside FC has MLS Next. None of the clubs that have switched to ECNL from GA have MLSN on the boys side and none of the clubs that have come into GA or DPL have any ECNL affiliation from the boys side, NL or RL.

Yep, and just wait until NWSL Next happens.

It's becoming very clear what's going to happen next.

I think everything could change overnight.

All NWSL has to do is implement a homegrown rule and say that they'll have Acadamies in the next season.

And boom everything in girls you soccer would be flipped on it head.

While I do have my doubts, I'm not ruling that out. It would be a win win for them, they wouldn't have to put much into it at first, just wait and see how it blooms and then start figuring out the rest. People keep talking about the financials but nobody is expecting fully funded NWSL academies from the beginning. We all already pay a large sum to participate and would continue to do so.


That's now really how it works. It needs to be truly differentiated from any other local club. As another poster pointed, Washington Spirit Academy was terrible. If you are charging people money then they would have to beat expectations. Paying to be a part of a start up in a already saturated market does not lead to immediate success.

The only way a NWSL Academy system will get off the ground is to be either fully funded or much much cheaper than other competing youth clubs.

NWSL is still competing with College recruitment for player's goals and objectives. If the academy has no track record or a true ability to showcase competitively it will fail upon launch. The hope of being pro is just not enough with the few limited pro opportunities available. And if the academy can't draw the interest of the best players regionally then it will not serve the purpose to the pro club either.

If it's free then that changes the dynamic of the player is no longer the consumer, but as long as the player is the consumer Spirit would have to offer one hell of bang for the buck in comparison to other clubs who can do the same thing for their player.

I just don't see this changing overnight. It is going to be a long and thoughtful process for NWSL to launch any meaningful academy system. Yes, it will happen but it will take a decade and there is nothing wrong with that. It would be better to to roll it out slowly and get it right than try and rush it, waste time, money and look bad. NWSL would never recover from a a faceplant.

I think everything could change overnight.

All NWSL has to do is implement a homegrown rule and say that they'll have Acadamies in the next season.

And boom everything in girls you soccer would be flipped on it head.


What else would flip girls soccer on its head? NCAA losing its bid for an anti-trust exemption.


Football isn't going anywhere and neither is title IX.


Of course it isn't. But when you have to identify students as employees, schools will cut the fat and the money makers will stay. Soccer isn't one of the money makers. Title IX will be fine, schools will just implement intramural sports for women.


That will not work. Has to be the same not similar.


How would it not be similar any longer? If schools cut soccer programs for men and women and then only offer them as intramural, how is that not the same?


If you pay men to play football, you have to pay an equivalent number of women to play a sport
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Anonymous wrote:Adding Bayside FC continues this narrative of this shadow war on the boys side. Bayside FC has MLS Next. None of the clubs that have switched to ECNL from GA have MLSN on the boys side and none of the clubs that have come into GA or DPL have any ECNL affiliation from the boys side, NL or RL.

Yep, and just wait until NWSL Next happens.

It's becoming very clear what's going to happen next.

I think everything could change overnight.

All NWSL has to do is implement a homegrown rule and say that they'll have Acadamies in the next season.

And boom everything in girls you soccer would be flipped on it head.

While I do have my doubts, I'm not ruling that out. It would be a win win for them, they wouldn't have to put much into it at first, just wait and see how it blooms and then start figuring out the rest. People keep talking about the financials but nobody is expecting fully funded NWSL academies from the beginning. We all already pay a large sum to participate and would continue to do so.


That's now really how it works. It needs to be truly differentiated from any other local club. As another poster pointed, Washington Spirit Academy was terrible. If you are charging people money then they would have to beat expectations. Paying to be a part of a start up in a already saturated market does not lead to immediate success.

The only way a NWSL Academy system will get off the ground is to be either fully funded or much much cheaper than other competing youth clubs.

NWSL is still competing with College recruitment for player's goals and objectives. If the academy has no track record or a true ability to showcase competitively it will fail upon launch. The hope of being pro is just not enough with the few limited pro opportunities available. And if the academy can't draw the interest of the best players regionally then it will not serve the purpose to the pro club either.

If it's free then that changes the dynamic of the player is no longer the consumer, but as long as the player is the consumer Spirit would have to offer one hell of bang for the buck in comparison to other clubs who can do the same thing for their player.

I just don't see this changing overnight. It is going to be a long and thoughtful process for NWSL to launch any meaningful academy system. Yes, it will happen but it will take a decade and there is nothing wrong with that. It would be better to to roll it out slowly and get it right than try and rush it, waste time, money and look bad. NWSL would never recover from a a faceplant.

I think everything could change overnight.

All NWSL has to do is implement a homegrown rule and say that they'll have Acadamies in the next season.

And boom everything in girls you soccer would be flipped on it head.


What else would flip girls soccer on its head? NCAA losing its bid for an anti-trust exemption.


Football isn't going anywhere and neither is title IX.


Of course it isn't. But when you have to identify students as employees, schools will cut the fat and the money makers will stay. Soccer isn't one of the money makers. Title IX will be fine, schools will just implement intramural sports for women.


That will not work. Has to be the same not similar.


How would it not be similar any longer? If schools cut soccer programs for men and women and then only offer them as intramural, how is that not the same?


Go and read Title IX then check back.
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Anonymous wrote:Adding Bayside FC continues this narrative of this shadow war on the boys side. Bayside FC has MLS Next. None of the clubs that have switched to ECNL from GA have MLSN on the boys side and none of the clubs that have come into GA or DPL have any ECNL affiliation from the boys side, NL or RL.

Yep, and just wait until NWSL Next happens.

It's becoming very clear what's going to happen next.

I think everything could change overnight.

All NWSL has to do is implement a homegrown rule and say that they'll have Acadamies in the next season.

And boom everything in girls you soccer would be flipped on it head.

While I do have my doubts, I'm not ruling that out. It would be a win win for them, they wouldn't have to put much into it at first, just wait and see how it blooms and then start figuring out the rest. People keep talking about the financials but nobody is expecting fully funded NWSL academies from the beginning. We all already pay a large sum to participate and would continue to do so.


That's now really how it works. It needs to be truly differentiated from any other local club. As another poster pointed, Washington Spirit Academy was terrible. If you are charging people money then they would have to beat expectations. Paying to be a part of a start up in a already saturated market does not lead to immediate success.

The only way a NWSL Academy system will get off the ground is to be either fully funded or much much cheaper than other competing youth clubs.

NWSL is still competing with College recruitment for player's goals and objectives. If the academy has no track record or a true ability to showcase competitively it will fail upon launch. The hope of being pro is just not enough with the few limited pro opportunities available. And if the academy can't draw the interest of the best players regionally then it will not serve the purpose to the pro club either.

If it's free then that changes the dynamic of the player is no longer the consumer, but as long as the player is the consumer Spirit would have to offer one hell of bang for the buck in comparison to other clubs who can do the same thing for their player.

I just don't see this changing overnight. It is going to be a long and thoughtful process for NWSL to launch any meaningful academy system. Yes, it will happen but it will take a decade and there is nothing wrong with that. It would be better to to roll it out slowly and get it right than try and rush it, waste time, money and look bad. NWSL would never recover from a a faceplant.

I think everything could change overnight.

All NWSL has to do is implement a homegrown rule and say that they'll have Acadamies in the next season.

And boom everything in girls you soccer would be flipped on it head.


What else would flip girls soccer on its head? NCAA losing its bid for an anti-trust exemption.


Football isn't going anywhere and neither is title IX.


Of course it isn't. But when you have to identify students as employees, schools will cut the fat and the money makers will stay. Soccer isn't one of the money makers. Title IX will be fine, schools will just implement intramural sports for women.


That will not work. Has to be the same not similar.


How would it not be similar any longer? If schools cut soccer programs for men and women and then only offer them as intramural, how is that not the same?


Go and read Title IX then check back.[/quote

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2022/05/26/title-ix-college-sports-questions-answered/9837129002/\\

Doesn't add up to being a problem within Title IX
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Anonymous wrote:Adding Bayside FC continues this narrative of this shadow war on the boys side. Bayside FC has MLS Next. None of the clubs that have switched to ECNL from GA have MLSN on the boys side and none of the clubs that have come into GA or DPL have any ECNL affiliation from the boys side, NL or RL.

Yep, and just wait until NWSL Next happens.

It's becoming very clear what's going to happen next.

I think everything could change overnight.

All NWSL has to do is implement a homegrown rule and say that they'll have Acadamies in the next season.

And boom everything in girls you soccer would be flipped on it head.

While I do have my doubts, I'm not ruling that out. It would be a win win for them, they wouldn't have to put much into it at first, just wait and see how it blooms and then start figuring out the rest. People keep talking about the financials but nobody is expecting fully funded NWSL academies from the beginning. We all already pay a large sum to participate and would continue to do so.


That's now really how it works. It needs to be truly differentiated from any other local club. As another poster pointed, Washington Spirit Academy was terrible. If you are charging people money then they would have to beat expectations. Paying to be a part of a start up in a already saturated market does not lead to immediate success.

The only way a NWSL Academy system will get off the ground is to be either fully funded or much much cheaper than other competing youth clubs.

NWSL is still competing with College recruitment for player's goals and objectives. If the academy has no track record or a true ability to showcase competitively it will fail upon launch. The hope of being pro is just not enough with the few limited pro opportunities available. And if the academy can't draw the interest of the best players regionally then it will not serve the purpose to the pro club either.

If it's free then that changes the dynamic of the player is no longer the consumer, but as long as the player is the consumer Spirit would have to offer one hell of bang for the buck in comparison to other clubs who can do the same thing for their player.

I just don't see this changing overnight. It is going to be a long and thoughtful process for NWSL to launch any meaningful academy system. Yes, it will happen but it will take a decade and there is nothing wrong with that. It would be better to to roll it out slowly and get it right than try and rush it, waste time, money and look bad. NWSL would never recover from a a faceplant.

I think everything could change overnight.

All NWSL has to do is implement a homegrown rule and say that they'll have Acadamies in the next season.

And boom everything in girls you soccer would be flipped on it head.


What else would flip girls soccer on its head? NCAA losing its bid for an anti-trust exemption.


Football isn't going anywhere and neither is title IX.


Of course it isn't. But when you have to identify students as employees, schools will cut the fat and the money makers will stay. Soccer isn't one of the money makers. Title IX will be fine, schools will just implement intramural sports for women.


That will not work. Has to be the same not similar.


How would it not be similar any longer? If schools cut soccer programs for men and women and then only offer them as intramural, how is that not the same?


If you pay men to play football, you have to pay an equivalent number of women to play a sport


https://www.law.georgetown.edu/gender-journal/wp-content/uploads/sites/20/2024/02/The-Inherent-Bad-Faith-of-the-NCAA-Use-of-Title-IX.pdf

If thats too long,

https://www.on3.com/os/news/boise-state-legal-expert-sam-ehrlich-ncaa-using-title-ix-as-hostage-in-nil-reform/
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NIL is being litigated, and will probably result in very large settlements https://www.law.com/2023/10/17/college-athletics-programs-face-likely-collision-between-nil-deals-and-title-ix/

Directly paying male athletes would remove the only defense that schools are raising.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z51XmMRqO64

Good summary of where this is all at and what the potential fall out may be.

Football, mens and womens basketball are about the only sports that could survive.
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Anonymous wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z51XmMRqO64

Good summary of where this is all at and what the potential fall out may be.

Football, mens and womens basketball are about the only sports that could survive.


Your source is just some guy who doesn't seem to understand title IX
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Anonymous wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z51XmMRqO64

Good summary of where this is all at and what the potential fall out may be.

Football, mens and womens basketball are about the only sports that could survive.


Your source is just some guy who doesn't seem to understand title IX

I just watched the video and it's really good.

You've provided nothing.
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Anonymous wrote:Adding Bayside FC continues this narrative of this shadow war on the boys side. Bayside FC has MLS Next. None of the clubs that have switched to ECNL from GA have MLSN on the boys side and none of the clubs that have come into GA or DPL have any ECNL affiliation from the boys side, NL or RL.

Yep, and just wait until NWSL Next happens.

It's becoming very clear what's going to happen next.

I think everything could change overnight.

All NWSL has to do is implement a homegrown rule and say that they'll have Acadamies in the next season.

And boom everything in girls you soccer would be flipped on it head.

While I do have my doubts, I'm not ruling that out. It would be a win win for them, they wouldn't have to put much into it at first, just wait and see how it blooms and then start figuring out the rest. People keep talking about the financials but nobody is expecting fully funded NWSL academies from the beginning. We all already pay a large sum to participate and would continue to do so.


That's now really how it works. It needs to be truly differentiated from any other local club. As another poster pointed, Washington Spirit Academy was terrible. If you are charging people money then they would have to beat expectations. Paying to be a part of a start up in a already saturated market does not lead to immediate success.

The only way a NWSL Academy system will get off the ground is to be either fully funded or much much cheaper than other competing youth clubs.

NWSL is still competing with College recruitment for player's goals and objectives. If the academy has no track record or a true ability to showcase competitively it will fail upon launch. The hope of being pro is just not enough with the few limited pro opportunities available. And if the academy can't draw the interest of the best players regionally then it will not serve the purpose to the pro club either.

If it's free then that changes the dynamic of the player is no longer the consumer, but as long as the player is the consumer Spirit would have to offer one hell of bang for the buck in comparison to other clubs who can do the same thing for their player.

I just don't see this changing overnight. It is going to be a long and thoughtful process for NWSL to launch any meaningful academy system. Yes, it will happen but it will take a decade and there is nothing wrong with that. It would be better to to roll it out slowly and get it right than try and rush it, waste time, money and look bad. NWSL would never recover from a a faceplant.

I think everything could change overnight.

All NWSL has to do is implement a homegrown rule and say that they'll have Acadamies in the next season.

And boom everything in girls you soccer would be flipped on it head.


I think you overestimate how delusional kids are about where they stand. In a given region, a homegrown rule may apply to one or two girls at most. The other few thousand playing at any one time understand that they won't go pro regardless


The kids and parents may be delusional but the NWSL Clubs can't feed into that. The homegrown rule is ultimately how the academy will be funded and if it isn't taken seriously by the club and attracts serious talent then its nothing more than pay to play fan experience.

Either way it doesn't matter. The "problem" addresses itself.

If clubs don't take development seriously they won't get transfer money from selling players to other clubs via transfer fees. Also if clubs don't develop players they won't get call ups to academy team and ultimately pro MLS/NWSL teams.
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Anonymous wrote:Adding Bayside FC continues this narrative of this shadow war on the boys side. Bayside FC has MLS Next. None of the clubs that have switched to ECNL from GA have MLSN on the boys side and none of the clubs that have come into GA or DPL have any ECNL affiliation from the boys side, NL or RL.

Yep, and just wait until NWSL Next happens.

It's becoming very clear what's going to happen next.

I think everything could change overnight.

All NWSL has to do is implement a homegrown rule and say that they'll have Acadamies in the next season.

And boom everything in girls you soccer would be flipped on it head.

While I do have my doubts, I'm not ruling that out. It would be a win win for them, they wouldn't have to put much into it at first, just wait and see how it blooms and then start figuring out the rest. People keep talking about the financials but nobody is expecting fully funded NWSL academies from the beginning. We all already pay a large sum to participate and would continue to do so.


That's now really how it works. It needs to be truly differentiated from any other local club. As another poster pointed, Washington Spirit Academy was terrible. If you are charging people money then they would have to beat expectations. Paying to be a part of a start up in a already saturated market does not lead to immediate success.

The only way a NWSL Academy system will get off the ground is to be either fully funded or much much cheaper than other competing youth clubs.

NWSL is still competing with College recruitment for player's goals and objectives. If the academy has no track record or a true ability to showcase competitively it will fail upon launch. The hope of being pro is just not enough with the few limited pro opportunities available. And if the academy can't draw the interest of the best players regionally then it will not serve the purpose to the pro club either.

If it's free then that changes the dynamic of the player is no longer the consumer, but as long as the player is the consumer Spirit would have to offer one hell of bang for the buck in comparison to other clubs who can do the same thing for their player.

I just don't see this changing overnight. It is going to be a long and thoughtful process for NWSL to launch any meaningful academy system. Yes, it will happen but it will take a decade and there is nothing wrong with that. It would be better to to roll it out slowly and get it right than try and rush it, waste time, money and look bad. NWSL would never recover from a a faceplant.

I think everything could change overnight.

All NWSL has to do is implement a homegrown rule and say that they'll have Acadamies in the next season.

And boom everything in girls you soccer would be flipped on it head.


What else would flip girls soccer on its head? NCAA losing its bid for an anti-trust exemption.


Football isn't going anywhere and neither is title IX.


Of course it isn't. But when you have to identify students as employees, schools will cut the fat and the money makers will stay. Soccer isn't one of the money makers. Title IX will be fine, schools will just implement intramural sports for women.


That will not work. Has to be the same not similar.


How would it not be similar any longer? If schools cut soccer programs for men and women and then only offer them as intramural, how is that not the same?


Does the school have football? If so you need an equal number of girls athletes and not intramural.
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Anonymous wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z51XmMRqO64

Good summary of where this is all at and what the potential fall out may be.

Football, mens and womens basketball are about the only sports that could survive.


All sports will be fine. Only idiots think otherwise.
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Anonymous wrote:Adding Bayside FC continues this narrative of this shadow war on the boys side. Bayside FC has MLS Next. None of the clubs that have switched to ECNL from GA have MLSN on the boys side and none of the clubs that have come into GA or DPL have any ECNL affiliation from the boys side, NL or RL.

Yep, and just wait until NWSL Next happens.

It's becoming very clear what's going to happen next.

I think everything could change overnight.

All NWSL has to do is implement a homegrown rule and say that they'll have Acadamies in the next season.

And boom everything in girls you soccer would be flipped on it head.

While I do have my doubts, I'm not ruling that out. It would be a win win for them, they wouldn't have to put much into it at first, just wait and see how it blooms and then start figuring out the rest. People keep talking about the financials but nobody is expecting fully funded NWSL academies from the beginning. We all already pay a large sum to participate and would continue to do so.


That's now really how it works. It needs to be truly differentiated from any other local club. As another poster pointed, Washington Spirit Academy was terrible. If you are charging people money then they would have to beat expectations. Paying to be a part of a start up in a already saturated market does not lead to immediate success.

The only way a NWSL Academy system will get off the ground is to be either fully funded or much much cheaper than other competing youth clubs.

NWSL is still competing with College recruitment for player's goals and objectives. If the academy has no track record or a true ability to showcase competitively it will fail upon launch. The hope of being pro is just not enough with the few limited pro opportunities available. And if the academy can't draw the interest of the best players regionally then it will not serve the purpose to the pro club either.

If it's free then that changes the dynamic of the player is no longer the consumer, but as long as the player is the consumer Spirit would have to offer one hell of bang for the buck in comparison to other clubs who can do the same thing for their player.

I just don't see this changing overnight. It is going to be a long and thoughtful process for NWSL to launch any meaningful academy system. Yes, it will happen but it will take a decade and there is nothing wrong with that. It would be better to to roll it out slowly and get it right than try and rush it, waste time, money and look bad. NWSL would never recover from a a faceplant.

I think everything could change overnight.

All NWSL has to do is implement a homegrown rule and say that they'll have Acadamies in the next season.

And boom everything in girls you soccer would be flipped on it head.


I think you overestimate how delusional kids are about where they stand. In a given region, a homegrown rule may apply to one or two girls at most. The other few thousand playing at any one time understand that they won't go pro regardless


The kids and parents may be delusional but the NWSL Clubs can't feed into that. The homegrown rule is ultimately how the academy will be funded and if it isn't taken seriously by the club and attracts serious talent then its nothing more than pay to play fan experience.

Either way it doesn't matter. The "problem" addresses itself.

If clubs don't take development seriously they won't get transfer money from selling players to other clubs via transfer fees. Also if clubs don't develop players they won't get call ups to academy team and ultimately pro MLS/NWSL teams.


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