Girls' Academy has also been approved to become a U.S. Soccer member!

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Anonymous wrote:Acadamies at least are honest about the end goal. If you're good enough you play professionally and if you're not you don't. Traditionally while you're learning how to play Acadeny soccer is free.

College sports could be good but colleges are greedy. If every player received a guaranteed 4 year scholarship then it would completely make sense. If colleges paid players an actual hourly wage it would also make sense. The problem with college sports is often the value of being a student athlete isn't there. Also because the player college relationship is 99% in favor of the college coaches have too much power and it leads to abuse of players. (Coach's dropping players if the find something better, coach's sexually abusing players by dangling their scholarship, and these are just a couple off the top of my head)

The academy might be free but the distance education or private education is not free.

It is impossible to dedicate to an academy while doing traditional schooling.

And academy coaches don't wield power? Tear an ACL is the academy going to care?

Academies are a business and you are their product. If they can't play you or sell you they cut you. It is not for everyone and it should not be promoted as though they would serve the interests of any more than the .0001%.

College can be extremely harsh as well but at least you are also attending school and preparing for a career while hopefully enjoying some aspect of the sport.

There really is no backup plan after getting cut from an academy.

The top Acadamies in Europe have "education" tied into development. Usually this revolves around soccer tactics and training but they also teach players how to speak multiple languages. This is because it makes the players more marketable to clubs in different countries.

Clubs do not usually drop top players from academy programs if they have ACL injuries. However they might sell via transfer fee or trade them to another academy. This is because acadamies value development and the time spent to be top talent.

No one will join on the girls side without a full education so that they can go to college.

They will because youth Academy soccer is considered amateur. This means you can play for an Academy and at high school graduation choose to play in college (if you want to)

Who is signing up their DD to play for Washington Spirit’s academy? They were the worst program in the DA.

Everything will change overnight once NWSL implements a homegrown rule with enough incentive to make Acadamies viable.

Will Nwsl have their own league or will they partner with an existing league?

The easiest way for NWSL to implement Academies is to copy MLS Next.

So this isn’t happening anytime soon?

NO. It will happen club by club while having loose partnerships with local youth clubs. The kids need a place to play afterall.

But it will also be more of top down integration. First order of business is establishing reserves teams and offering those teams options to compete against each other. The clubs need to be able to pay them a decent salary if you expect them to forgo college to be on a practice squad. So essentially, NWSL would need to create a B team league. Then and only then can they look into creating a pipeline into that environment.

As it stands, the draft is free and for the clubs that aren't drowning in money, free and fair opportunity to select players is still important without adding the expense of developing players from 14 years old.

Even with homegrown being implemented the market for players is still unknown and volatile. Just because you developed them doesn't mean you can sell their rights off for a profit. If you can't sell them then your only advantage is you don't have to draft them.

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Anonymous wrote:Acadamies at least are honest about the end goal. If you're good enough you play professionally and if you're not you don't. Traditionally while you're learning how to play Acadeny soccer is free.

College sports could be good but colleges are greedy. If every player received a guaranteed 4 year scholarship then it would completely make sense. If colleges paid players an actual hourly wage it would also make sense. The problem with college sports is often the value of being a student athlete isn't there. Also because the player college relationship is 99% in favor of the college coaches have too much power and it leads to abuse of players. (Coach's dropping players if the find something better, coach's sexually abusing players by dangling their scholarship, and these are just a couple off the top of my head)

The academy might be free but the distance education or private education is not free.

It is impossible to dedicate to an academy while doing traditional schooling.

And academy coaches don't wield power? Tear an ACL is the academy going to care?

Academies are a business and you are their product. If they can't play you or sell you they cut you. It is not for everyone and it should not be promoted as though they would serve the interests of any more than the .0001%.

College can be extremely harsh as well but at least you are also attending school and preparing for a career while hopefully enjoying some aspect of the sport.

There really is no backup plan after getting cut from an academy.

The top Acadamies in Europe have "education" tied into development. Usually this revolves around soccer tactics and training but they also teach players how to speak multiple languages. This is because it makes the players more marketable to clubs in different countries.

Clubs do not usually drop top players from academy programs if they have ACL injuries. However they might sell via transfer fee or trade them to another academy. This is because acadamies value development and the time spent to be top talent.

No one will join on the girls side without a full education so that they can go to college.

They will because youth Academy soccer is considered amateur. This means you can play for an Academy and at high school graduation choose to play in college (if you want to)

Who is signing up their DD to play for Washington Spirit’s academy? They were the worst program in the DA.

Everything will change overnight once NWSL implements a homegrown rule with enough incentive to make Acadamies viable.

How do you expect things to change overnight when you can't even convince a web forum?

I mean, we are the ones who are supposed to be bringing our kids to these academies you speak of and I think by and large, most in here really don't care that much about whether it happens or not.

I'm fine with and believe an academy system is needed for NWSL but I don't think it should come at the expense of college athletics. I think there is room for both.

I also think a NWSL academy system will take much longer to both happen and mature than you realize.

I'm not trying to convince anyone.

This is how all other professional soccer leagues work.

Eventually NWSL will be forced to function like all the other big professional leagues. If they don't someone else will and they'll lose marketshare.

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Anonymous wrote:Acadamies at least are honest about the end goal. If you're good enough you play professionally and if you're not you don't. Traditionally while you're learning how to play Acadeny soccer is free.

College sports could be good but colleges are greedy. If every player received a guaranteed 4 year scholarship then it would completely make sense. If colleges paid players an actual hourly wage it would also make sense. The problem with college sports is often the value of being a student athlete isn't there. Also because the player college relationship is 99% in favor of the college coaches have too much power and it leads to abuse of players. (Coach's dropping players if the find something better, coach's sexually abusing players by dangling their scholarship, and these are just a couple off the top of my head)

The academy might be free but the distance education or private education is not free.

It is impossible to dedicate to an academy while doing traditional schooling.

And academy coaches don't wield power? Tear an ACL is the academy going to care?

Academies are a business and you are their product. If they can't play you or sell you they cut you. It is not for everyone and it should not be promoted as though they would serve the interests of any more than the .0001%.

College can be extremely harsh as well but at least you are also attending school and preparing for a career while hopefully enjoying some aspect of the sport.

There really is no backup plan after getting cut from an academy.

The top Acadamies in Europe have "education" tied into development. Usually this revolves around soccer tactics and training but they also teach players how to speak multiple languages. This is because it makes the players more marketable to clubs in different countries.

Clubs do not usually drop top players from academy programs if they have ACL injuries. However they might sell via transfer fee or trade them to another academy. This is because acadamies value development and the time spent to be top talent.

No one will join on the girls side without a full education so that they can go to college.

They will because youth Academy soccer is considered amateur. This means you can play for an Academy and at high school graduation choose to play in college (if you want to)

Who is signing up their DD to play for Washington Spirit’s academy? They were the worst program in the DA.

Everything will change overnight once NWSL implements a homegrown rule with enough incentive to make Acadamies viable.

Will Nwsl have their own league or will they partner with an existing league?

The easiest way for NWSL to implement Academies is to copy MLS Next.

So this isn’t happening anytime soon?

NO. It will happen club by club while having loose partnerships with local youth clubs. The kids need a place to play afterall.

But it will also be more of top down integration. First order of business is establishing reserves teams and offering those teams options to compete against each other. The clubs need to be able to pay them a decent salary if you expect them to forgo college to be on a practice squad. So essentially, NWSL would need to create a B team league. Then and only then can they look into creating a pipeline into that environment.

As it stands, the draft is free and for the clubs that aren't drowning in money, free and fair opportunity to select players is still important without adding the expense of developing players from 14 years old.

Even with homegrown being implemented the market for players is still unknown and volatile. Just because you developed them doesn't mean you can sell their rights off for a profit. If you can't sell them then your only advantage is you don't have to draft them.

Also homegrown salaries don't count against the salary cap.

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Anonymous wrote:Acadamies at least are honest about the end goal. If you're good enough you play professionally and if you're not you don't. Traditionally while you're learning how to play Acadeny soccer is free.

College sports could be good but colleges are greedy. If every player received a guaranteed 4 year scholarship then it would completely make sense. If colleges paid players an actual hourly wage it would also make sense. The problem with college sports is often the value of being a student athlete isn't there. Also because the player college relationship is 99% in favor of the college coaches have too much power and it leads to abuse of players. (Coach's dropping players if the find something better, coach's sexually abusing players by dangling their scholarship, and these are just a couple off the top of my head)

The academy might be free but the distance education or private education is not free.

It is impossible to dedicate to an academy while doing traditional schooling.

And academy coaches don't wield power? Tear an ACL is the academy going to care?

Academies are a business and you are their product. If they can't play you or sell you they cut you. It is not for everyone and it should not be promoted as though they would serve the interests of any more than the .0001%.

College can be extremely harsh as well but at least you are also attending school and preparing for a career while hopefully enjoying some aspect of the sport.

There really is no backup plan after getting cut from an academy.

The top Acadamies in Europe have "education" tied into development. Usually this revolves around soccer tactics and training but they also teach players how to speak multiple languages. This is because it makes the players more marketable to clubs in different countries.

Clubs do not usually drop top players from academy programs if they have ACL injuries. However they might sell via transfer fee or trade them to another academy. This is because acadamies value development and the time spent to be top talent.

No one will join on the girls side without a full education so that they can go to college.

They will because youth Academy soccer is considered amateur. This means you can play for an Academy and at high school graduation choose to play in college (if you want to)

Who is signing up their DD to play for Washington Spirit’s academy? They were the worst program in the DA.

Everything will change overnight once NWSL implements a homegrown rule with enough incentive to make Acadamies viable.

How do you expect things to change overnight when you can't even convince a web forum?

I mean, we are the ones who are supposed to be bringing our kids to these academies you speak of and I think by and large, most in here really don't care that much about whether it happens or not.

I'm fine with and believe an academy system is needed for NWSL but I don't think it should come at the expense of college athletics. I think there is room for both.

I also think a NWSL academy system will take much longer to both happen and mature than you realize.

I'm not trying to convince anyone.

This is how all other professional soccer leagues work.

Eventually NWSL will be forced to function like all the other big professional leagues. If they don't someone else will and they'll lose marketshare.

But it's not how other professional leagues work in the US. I guess that's the question. Will US pro soccer leagues eventually look more like pro soccer leagues in Europe, or more like non-soccer pro leagues in the US? Either one is certainly possible but one is going more against the grain than the other.

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Anonymous wrote:Acadamies at least are honest about the end goal. If you're good enough you play professionally and if you're not you don't. Traditionally while you're learning how to play Acadeny soccer is free.

College sports could be good but colleges are greedy. If every player received a guaranteed 4 year scholarship then it would completely make sense. If colleges paid players an actual hourly wage it would also make sense. The problem with college sports is often the value of being a student athlete isn't there. Also because the player college relationship is 99% in favor of the college coaches have too much power and it leads to abuse of players. (Coach's dropping players if the find something better, coach's sexually abusing players by dangling their scholarship, and these are just a couple off the top of my head)

The academy might be free but the distance education or private education is not free.

It is impossible to dedicate to an academy while doing traditional schooling.

And academy coaches don't wield power? Tear an ACL is the academy going to care?

Academies are a business and you are their product. If they can't play you or sell you they cut you. It is not for everyone and it should not be promoted as though they would serve the interests of any more than the .0001%.

College can be extremely harsh as well but at least you are also attending school and preparing for a career while hopefully enjoying some aspect of the sport.

There really is no backup plan after getting cut from an academy.

The top Acadamies in Europe have "education" tied into development. Usually this revolves around soccer tactics and training but they also teach players how to speak multiple languages. This is because it makes the players more marketable to clubs in different countries.

Clubs do not usually drop top players from academy programs if they have ACL injuries. However they might sell via transfer fee or trade them to another academy. This is because acadamies value development and the time spent to be top talent.

No one will join on the girls side without a full education so that they can go to college.

They will because youth Academy soccer is considered amateur. This means you can play for an Academy and at high school graduation choose to play in college (if you want to)

Who is signing up their DD to play for Washington Spirit’s academy? They were the worst program in the DA.

Everything will change overnight once NWSL implements a homegrown rule with enough incentive to make Acadamies viable.

How do you expect things to change overnight when you can't even convince a web forum?

I mean, we are the ones who are supposed to be bringing our kids to these academies you speak of and I think by and large, most in here really don't care that much about whether it happens or not.

I'm fine with and believe an academy system is needed for NWSL but I don't think it should come at the expense of college athletics. I think there is room for both.

I also think a NWSL academy system will take much longer to both happen and mature than you realize.

I'm not trying to convince anyone.

This is how all other professional soccer leagues work.

Eventually NWSL will be forced to function like all the other big professional leagues. If they don't someone else will and they'll lose marketshare.

No, you are trying to convince everyone that it is imminent. There are unique hurdles that professional soccer have to overcome in this country, overall popularity being the biggest hurdle. You can't just wish those hurdles away regardless of how things are done in Europe. America just doesn't care enough about professional soccer to make these changes quickly. MLS took 20 years to get to the healthy place it is now. NWSL could take the lessons learned and perhaps get to a similar spot in at best half the time. But NWSL has to grow at it's own pace and do it right. If it is rushed it could bankrupt clubs and kill the league.

One of the benchmarks of stability and real growth will be NWSL specific stadiums. NWSL will also need 20-24 successful clubs before it really takes off. That just takes time and patience that you simply lack.

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Anonymous wrote:Acadamies at least are honest about the end goal. If you're good enough you play professionally and if you're not you don't. Traditionally while you're learning how to play Acadeny soccer is free.

College sports could be good but colleges are greedy. If every player received a guaranteed 4 year scholarship then it would completely make sense. If colleges paid players an actual hourly wage it would also make sense. The problem with college sports is often the value of being a student athlete isn't there. Also because the player college relationship is 99% in favor of the college coaches have too much power and it leads to abuse of players. (Coach's dropping players if the find something better, coach's sexually abusing players by dangling their scholarship, and these are just a couple off the top of my head)

The academy might be free but the distance education or private education is not free.

It is impossible to dedicate to an academy while doing traditional schooling.

And academy coaches don't wield power? Tear an ACL is the academy going to care?

Academies are a business and you are their product. If they can't play you or sell you they cut you. It is not for everyone and it should not be promoted as though they would serve the interests of any more than the .0001%.

College can be extremely harsh as well but at least you are also attending school and preparing for a career while hopefully enjoying some aspect of the sport.

There really is no backup plan after getting cut from an academy.

The top Acadamies in Europe have "education" tied into development. Usually this revolves around soccer tactics and training but they also teach players how to speak multiple languages. This is because it makes the players more marketable to clubs in different countries.

Clubs do not usually drop top players from academy programs if they have ACL injuries. However they might sell via transfer fee or trade them to another academy. This is because acadamies value development and the time spent to be top talent.

No one will join on the girls side without a full education so that they can go to college.

They will because youth Academy soccer is considered amateur. This means you can play for an Academy and at high school graduation choose to play in college (if you want to)

Who is signing up their DD to play for Washington Spirit’s academy? They were the worst program in the DA.

Everything will change overnight once NWSL implements a homegrown rule with enough incentive to make Acadamies viable.

Will Nwsl have their own league or will they partner with an existing league?

The easiest way for NWSL to implement Academies is to copy MLS Next.

So this isn’t happening anytime soon?

NO. It will happen club by club while having loose partnerships with local youth clubs. The kids need a place to play afterall.

But it will also be more of top down integration. First order of business is establishing reserves teams and offering those teams options to compete against each other. The clubs need to be able to pay them a decent salary if you expect them to forgo college to be on a practice squad. So essentially, NWSL would need to create a B team league. Then and only then can they look into creating a pipeline into that environment.

As it stands, the draft is free and for the clubs that aren't drowning in money, free and fair opportunity to select players is still important without adding the expense of developing players from 14 years old.

Even with homegrown being implemented the market for players is still unknown and volatile. Just because you developed them doesn't mean you can sell their rights off for a profit. If you can't sell them then your only advantage is you don't have to draft them.

Also homegrown salaries don't count against the salary cap.

Owners of marginally profitable leagues love salary caps.

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Anonymous wrote:Acadamies at least are honest about the end goal. If you're good enough you play professionally and if you're not you don't. Traditionally while you're learning how to play Acadeny soccer is free.

College sports could be good but colleges are greedy. If every player received a guaranteed 4 year scholarship then it would completely make sense. If colleges paid players an actual hourly wage it would also make sense. The problem with college sports is often the value of being a student athlete isn't there. Also because the player college relationship is 99% in favor of the college coaches have too much power and it leads to abuse of players. (Coach's dropping players if the find something better, coach's sexually abusing players by dangling their scholarship, and these are just a couple off the top of my head)

The academy might be free but the distance education or private education is not free.

It is impossible to dedicate to an academy while doing traditional schooling.

And academy coaches don't wield power? Tear an ACL is the academy going to care?

Academies are a business and you are their product. If they can't play you or sell you they cut you. It is not for everyone and it should not be promoted as though they would serve the interests of any more than the .0001%.

College can be extremely harsh as well but at least you are also attending school and preparing for a career while hopefully enjoying some aspect of the sport.

There really is no backup plan after getting cut from an academy.

The top Acadamies in Europe have "education" tied into development. Usually this revolves around soccer tactics and training but they also teach players how to speak multiple languages. This is because it makes the players more marketable to clubs in different countries.

Clubs do not usually drop top players from academy programs if they have ACL injuries. However they might sell via transfer fee or trade them to another academy. This is because acadamies value development and the time spent to be top talent.

No one will join on the girls side without a full education so that they can go to college.

They will because youth Academy soccer is considered amateur. This means you can play for an Academy and at high school graduation choose to play in college (if you want to)

Who is signing up their DD to play for Washington Spirit’s academy? They were the worst program in the DA.

Everything will change overnight once NWSL implements a homegrown rule with enough incentive to make Acadamies viable.

How do you expect things to change overnight when you can't even convince a web forum?

I mean, we are the ones who are supposed to be bringing our kids to these academies you speak of and I think by and large, most in here really don't care that much about whether it happens or not.

I'm fine with and believe an academy system is needed for NWSL but I don't think it should come at the expense of college athletics. I think there is room for both.

I also think a NWSL academy system will take much longer to both happen and mature than you realize.

I'm not trying to convince anyone.

This is how all other professional soccer leagues work.

Eventually NWSL will be forced to function like all the other big professional leagues. If they don't someone else will and they'll lose marketshare.

No, you are trying to convince everyone that it is imminent. There are unique hurdles that professional soccer have to overcome in this country, overall popularity being the biggest hurdle. You can't just wish those hurdles away regardless of how things are done in Europe. America just doesn't care enough about professional soccer to make these changes quickly. MLS took 20 years to get to the healthy place it is now. NWSL could take the lessons learned and perhaps get to a similar spot in at best half the time. But NWSL has to grow at it's own pace and do it right. If it is rushed it could bankrupt clubs and kill the league.

One of the benchmarks of stability and real growth will be NWSL specific stadiums. NWSL will also need 20-24 successful clubs before it really takes off. That just takes time and patience that you simply lack.

I literally said Academies could come tomorrow or they could come in X number of years.

When MLS implemented a homegrown rule and Academies there was 14 clubs in the league. (just like NWSL right now)

From my perspective the only thing holding Academies back in NWSL is club valuation increases. It doesn't make sense going all out to field the best talent when you don't need to and club valuation continues to go up. Eventually NWSL will need to appeal to a larger audience. To do this they'll need to up the talent level on the field.

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Anonymous wrote:Acadamies at least are honest about the end goal. If you're good enough you play professionally and if you're not you don't. Traditionally while you're learning how to play Acadeny soccer is free.

College sports could be good but colleges are greedy. If every player received a guaranteed 4 year scholarship then it would completely make sense. If colleges paid players an actual hourly wage it would also make sense. The problem with college sports is often the value of being a student athlete isn't there. Also because the player college relationship is 99% in favor of the college coaches have too much power and it leads to abuse of players. (Coach's dropping players if the find something better, coach's sexually abusing players by dangling their scholarship, and these are just a couple off the top of my head)

The academy might be free but the distance education or private education is not free.

It is impossible to dedicate to an academy while doing traditional schooling.

And academy coaches don't wield power? Tear an ACL is the academy going to care?

Academies are a business and you are their product. If they can't play you or sell you they cut you. It is not for everyone and it should not be promoted as though they would serve the interests of any more than the .0001%.

College can be extremely harsh as well but at least you are also attending school and preparing for a career while hopefully enjoying some aspect of the sport.

There really is no backup plan after getting cut from an academy.

The top Acadamies in Europe have "education" tied into development. Usually this revolves around soccer tactics and training but they also teach players how to speak multiple languages. This is because it makes the players more marketable to clubs in different countries.

Clubs do not usually drop top players from academy programs if they have ACL injuries. However they might sell via transfer fee or trade them to another academy. This is because acadamies value development and the time spent to be top talent.

No one will join on the girls side without a full education so that they can go to college.

They will because youth Academy soccer is considered amateur. This means you can play for an Academy and at high school graduation choose to play in college (if you want to)

Who is signing up their DD to play for Washington Spirit’s academy? They were the worst program in the DA.

Everything will change overnight once NWSL implements a homegrown rule with enough incentive to make Acadamies viable.

How do you expect things to change overnight when you can't even convince a web forum?

I mean, we are the ones who are supposed to be bringing our kids to these academies you speak of and I think by and large, most in here really don't care that much about whether it happens or not.

I'm fine with and believe an academy system is needed for NWSL but I don't think it should come at the expense of college athletics. I think there is room for both.

I also think a NWSL academy system will take much longer to both happen and mature than you realize.

I'm not trying to convince anyone.

This is how all other professional soccer leagues work.

Eventually NWSL will be forced to function like all the other big professional leagues. If they don't someone else will and they'll lose marketshare.

No, you are trying to convince everyone that it is imminent. There are unique hurdles that professional soccer have to overcome in this country, overall popularity being the biggest hurdle. You can't just wish those hurdles away regardless of how things are done in Europe. America just doesn't care enough about professional soccer to make these changes quickly. MLS took 20 years to get to the healthy place it is now. NWSL could take the lessons learned and perhaps get to a similar spot in at best half the time. But NWSL has to grow at it's own pace and do it right. If it is rushed it could bankrupt clubs and kill the league.

One of the benchmarks of stability and real growth will be NWSL specific stadiums. NWSL will also need 20-24 successful clubs before it really takes off. That just takes time and patience that you simply lack.

it is imminent

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The NWSL needs to best talent. Women’s sports are so vastly different than Men’s. Men will leave home and go to a club or a school anywhere, 95% of them at the drop of a hat. Girls are very different. How many top tier girls go to colleges close to home or transfer back to schools close to home because they don’t want to be away. And you think that the best 13-17 year old girls are going to leave home and join an NWSL academy? Or that many parents are going to up and move in the current housing market and to put their daughter in one you’re crazy. The NWSL already has all the academy it needs in the college ranks built by the ECNL and supplemented with a few GA girls.

It’s a pipe dream of a stretch to think anything else.

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Anonymous wrote:The NWSL needs to best talent. Women’s sports are so vastly different than Men’s. Men will leave home and go to a club or a school anywhere, 95% of them at the drop of a hat. Girls are very different. How many top tier girls go to colleges close to home or transfer back to schools close to home because they don’t want to be away. And you think that the best 13-17 year old girls are going to leave home and join an NWSL academy? Or that many parents are going to up and move in the current housing market and to put their daughter in one you’re crazy. The NWSL already has all the academy it needs in the college ranks built by the ECNL and supplemented with a few GA girls.

It’s a pipe dream of a stretch to think anything else.

That’s an absurd take in 2024. “Men” will go anywhere but “girls” won’t?

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Anonymous wrote:The NWSL needs to best talent. Women’s sports are so vastly different than Men’s. Men will leave home and go to a club or a school anywhere, 95% of them at the drop of a hat. Girls are very different. How many top tier girls go to colleges close to home or transfer back to schools close to home because they don’t want to be away. And you think that the best 13-17 year old girls are going to leave home and join an NWSL academy? Or that many parents are going to up and move in the current housing market and to put their daughter in one you’re crazy. The NWSL already has all the academy it needs in the college ranks built by the ECNL and supplemented with a few GA girls.

It’s a pipe dream of a stretch to think anything else.

That’s an absurd take in 2024. “Men” will go anywhere but “girls” won’t?

It's mind boggling that in 2024 someone truly believes girls don't want the same things as boys.

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Anonymous wrote:The NWSL needs to best talent. Women’s sports are so vastly different than Men’s. Men will leave home and go to a club or a school anywhere, 95% of them at the drop of a hat. Girls are very different. How many top tier girls go to colleges close to home or transfer back to schools close to home because they don’t want to be away. And you think that the best 13-17 year old girls are going to leave home and join an NWSL academy? Or that many parents are going to up and move in the current housing market and to put their daughter in one you’re crazy. The NWSL already has all the academy it needs in the college ranks built by the ECNL and supplemented with a few GA girls.

It’s a pipe dream of a stretch to think anything else.

That’s an absurd take in 2024. “Men” will go anywhere but “girls” won’t?

It's mind boggling that in 2024 someone truly believes girls don't want the same things as boys.

Sure the same but mls and Nwsl are not the same. There is no money for the player in us female soccer unless the woman is top 10% in the nwsl and marketable for commercials.

That is not the case in the mls.


Look —. Not crazy to leave college and try the nba. You will make a few million and if it does not work you go back to college (not to play). Same in other us sports. There is no money or payday in women’s soccer for most that can play at that level. It makes the gamble foolish.

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Anonymous wrote:Acadamies at least are honest about the end goal. If you're good enough you play professionally and if you're not you don't. Traditionally while you're learning how to play Acadeny soccer is free.

College sports could be good but colleges are greedy. If every player received a guaranteed 4 year scholarship then it would completely make sense. If colleges paid players an actual hourly wage it would also make sense. The problem with college sports is often the value of being a student athlete isn't there. Also because the player college relationship is 99% in favor of the college coaches have too much power and it leads to abuse of players. (Coach's dropping players if the find something better, coach's sexually abusing players by dangling their scholarship, and these are just a couple off the top of my head)

The academy might be free but the distance education or private education is not free.

It is impossible to dedicate to an academy while doing traditional schooling.

And academy coaches don't wield power? Tear an ACL is the academy going to care?

Academies are a business and you are their product. If they can't play you or sell you they cut you. It is not for everyone and it should not be promoted as though they would serve the interests of any more than the .0001%.

College can be extremely harsh as well but at least you are also attending school and preparing for a career while hopefully enjoying some aspect of the sport.

There really is no backup plan after getting cut from an academy.

The top Acadamies in Europe have "education" tied into development. Usually this revolves around soccer tactics and training but they also teach players how to speak multiple languages. This is because it makes the players more marketable to clubs in different countries.

Clubs do not usually drop top players from academy programs if they have ACL injuries. However they might sell via transfer fee or trade them to another academy. This is because acadamies value development and the time spent to be top talent.

No one will join on the girls side without a full education so that they can go to college.

They will because youth Academy soccer is considered amateur. This means you can play for an Academy and at high school graduation choose to play in college (if you want to)

Who is signing up their DD to play for Washington Spirit’s academy? They were the worst program in the DA.

Everything will change overnight once NWSL implements a homegrown rule with enough incentive to make Acadamies viable.

How do you expect things to change overnight when you can't even convince a web forum?

I mean, we are the ones who are supposed to be bringing our kids to these academies you speak of and I think by and large, most in here really don't care that much about whether it happens or not.

I'm fine with and believe an academy system is needed for NWSL but I don't think it should come at the expense of college athletics. I think there is room for both.

I also think a NWSL academy system will take much longer to both happen and mature than you realize.

I'm not trying to convince anyone.

This is how all other professional soccer leagues work.

Eventually NWSL will be forced to function like all the other big professional leagues. If they don't someone else will and they'll lose marketshare.

No, you are trying to convince everyone that it is imminent. There are unique hurdles that professional soccer have to overcome in this country, overall popularity being the biggest hurdle. You can't just wish those hurdles away regardless of how things are done in Europe. America just doesn't care enough about professional soccer to make these changes quickly. MLS took 20 years to get to the healthy place it is now. NWSL could take the lessons learned and perhaps get to a similar spot in at best half the time. But NWSL has to grow at it's own pace and do it right. If it is rushed it could bankrupt clubs and kill the league.

One of the benchmarks of stability and real growth will be NWSL specific stadiums. NWSL will also need 20-24 successful clubs before it really takes off. That just takes time and patience that you simply lack.

it is imminent

If it relies on the NWSL, it is not imminent. They have no money to spend on this. Half the clubs could not even afford the B league.

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Anonymous wrote:Acadamies at least are honest about the end goal. If you're good enough you play professionally and if you're not you don't. Traditionally while you're learning how to play Acadeny soccer is free.

College sports could be good but colleges are greedy. If every player received a guaranteed 4 year scholarship then it would completely make sense. If colleges paid players an actual hourly wage it would also make sense. The problem with college sports is often the value of being a student athlete isn't there. Also because the player college relationship is 99% in favor of the college coaches have too much power and it leads to abuse of players. (Coach's dropping players if the find something better, coach's sexually abusing players by dangling their scholarship, and these are just a couple off the top of my head)

The academy might be free but the distance education or private education is not free.

It is impossible to dedicate to an academy while doing traditional schooling.

And academy coaches don't wield power? Tear an ACL is the academy going to care?

Academies are a business and you are their product. If they can't play you or sell you they cut you. It is not for everyone and it should not be promoted as though they would serve the interests of any more than the .0001%.

College can be extremely harsh as well but at least you are also attending school and preparing for a career while hopefully enjoying some aspect of the sport.

There really is no backup plan after getting cut from an academy.

The top Acadamies in Europe have "education" tied into development. Usually this revolves around soccer tactics and training but they also teach players how to speak multiple languages. This is because it makes the players more marketable to clubs in different countries.

Clubs do not usually drop top players from academy programs if they have ACL injuries. However they might sell via transfer fee or trade them to another academy. This is because acadamies value development and the time spent to be top talent.

No one will join on the girls side without a full education so that they can go to college.

They will because youth Academy soccer is considered amateur. This means you can play for an Academy and at high school graduation choose to play in college (if you want to)

Who is signing up their DD to play for Washington Spirit’s academy? They were the worst program in the DA.

Everything will change overnight once NWSL implements a homegrown rule with enough incentive to make Acadamies viable.

How do you expect things to change overnight when you can't even convince a web forum?

I mean, we are the ones who are supposed to be bringing our kids to these academies you speak of and I think by and large, most in here really don't care that much about whether it happens or not.

I'm fine with and believe an academy system is needed for NWSL but I don't think it should come at the expense of college athletics. I think there is room for both.

I also think a NWSL academy system will take much longer to both happen and mature than you realize.

I'm not trying to convince anyone.

This is how all other professional soccer leagues work.

Eventually NWSL will be forced to function like all the other big professional leagues. If they don't someone else will and they'll lose marketshare.

No, you are trying to convince everyone that it is imminent. There are unique hurdles that professional soccer have to overcome in this country, overall popularity being the biggest hurdle. You can't just wish those hurdles away regardless of how things are done in Europe. America just doesn't care enough about professional soccer to make these changes quickly. MLS took 20 years to get to the healthy place it is now. NWSL could take the lessons learned and perhaps get to a similar spot in at best half the time. But NWSL has to grow at it's own pace and do it right. If it is rushed it could bankrupt clubs and kill the league.

One of the benchmarks of stability and real growth will be NWSL specific stadiums. NWSL will also need 20-24 successful clubs before it really takes off. That just takes time and patience that you simply lack.

it is imminent

If it relies on the NWSL, it is not imminent. They have no money to spend on this. Half the clubs could not even afford the B league.

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