Girls' Academy has also been approved to become a U.S. Soccer member!

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Anonymous wrote:Adding Bayside FC continues this narrative of this shadow war on the boys side. Bayside FC has MLS Next. None of the clubs that have switched to ECNL from GA have MLSN on the boys side and none of the clubs that have come into GA or DPL have any ECNL affiliation from the boys side, NL or RL.

Yep, and just wait until NWSL Next happens.

It's becoming very clear what's going to happen next.
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Anonymous wrote:Adding Bayside FC continues this narrative of this shadow war on the boys side. Bayside FC has MLS Next. None of the clubs that have switched to ECNL from GA have MLSN on the boys side and none of the clubs that have come into GA or DPL have any ECNL affiliation from the boys side, NL or RL.

Yep, and just wait until NWSL Next happens.

It's becoming very clear what's going to happen next.


While I do have my doubts, I'm not ruling that out. It would be a win win for them, they wouldn't have to put much into it at first, just wait and see how it blooms and then start figuring out the rest. People keep talking about the financials but nobody is expecting fully funded NWSL academies from the beginning. We all already pay a large sum to participate and would continue to do so.
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Anonymous wrote:Adding Bayside FC continues this narrative of this shadow war on the boys side. Bayside FC has MLS Next. None of the clubs that have switched to ECNL from GA have MLSN on the boys side and none of the clubs that have come into GA or DPL have any ECNL affiliation from the boys side, NL or RL.

Yep, and just wait until NWSL Next happens.

It's becoming very clear what's going to happen next.


Oh please, tell us all what's going to happen next when the first things hasn't even happened.
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Anonymous wrote:Adding Bayside FC continues this narrative of this shadow war on the boys side. Bayside FC has MLS Next. None of the clubs that have switched to ECNL from GA have MLSN on the boys side and none of the clubs that have come into GA or DPL have any ECNL affiliation from the boys side, NL or RL.

Yep, and just wait until NWSL Next happens.

It's becoming very clear what's going to happen next.


While I do have my doubts, I'm not ruling that out. It would be a win win for them, they wouldn't have to put much into it at first, just wait and see how it blooms and then start figuring out the rest. People keep talking about the financials but nobody is expecting fully funded NWSL academies from the beginning. We all already pay a large sum to participate and would continue to do so.


Do you think it just happens magically? Washington Spirit academies were terrible.
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Anonymous wrote:Adding Bayside FC continues this narrative of this shadow war on the boys side. Bayside FC has MLS Next. None of the clubs that have switched to ECNL from GA have MLSN on the boys side and none of the clubs that have come into GA or DPL have any ECNL affiliation from the boys side, NL or RL.

Yep, and just wait until NWSL Next happens.

It's becoming very clear what's going to happen next.


While I do have my doubts, I'm not ruling that out. It would be a win win for them, they wouldn't have to put much into it at first, just wait and see how it blooms and then start figuring out the rest. People keep talking about the financials but nobody is expecting fully funded NWSL academies from the beginning. We all already pay a large sum to participate and would continue to do so.


Do you think it just happens magically? Washington Spirit academies were terrible.


PP is exited to pay another $500 a year for a spirit patch because their club paid spirit to be their official academy
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Anonymous wrote:Adding Bayside FC continues this narrative of this shadow war on the boys side. Bayside FC has MLS Next. None of the clubs that have switched to ECNL from GA have MLSN on the boys side and none of the clubs that have come into GA or DPL have any ECNL affiliation from the boys side, NL or RL.

Yep, and just wait until NWSL Next happens.

It's becoming very clear what's going to happen next.


While I do have my doubts, I'm not ruling that out. It would be a win win for them, they wouldn't have to put much into it at first, just wait and see how it blooms and then start figuring out the rest. People keep talking about the financials but nobody is expecting fully funded NWSL academies from the beginning. We all already pay a large sum to participate and would continue to do so.


Do you think it just happens magically? Washington Spirit academies were terrible.


Spirit was a terrible organization then too.
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Anonymous wrote:Adding Bayside FC continues this narrative of this shadow war on the boys side. Bayside FC has MLS Next. None of the clubs that have switched to ECNL from GA have MLSN on the boys side and none of the clubs that have come into GA or DPL have any ECNL affiliation from the boys side, NL or RL.

Yep, and just wait until NWSL Next happens.

It's becoming very clear what's going to happen next.


While I do have my doubts, I'm not ruling that out. It would be a win win for them, they wouldn't have to put much into it at first, just wait and see how it blooms and then start figuring out the rest. People keep talking about the financials but nobody is expecting fully funded NWSL academies from the beginning. We all already pay a large sum to participate and would continue to do so.


That's now really how it works. It needs to be truly differentiated from any other local club. As another poster pointed, Washington Spirit Academy was terrible. If you are charging people money then they would have to beat expectations. Paying to be a part of a start up in a already saturated market does not lead to immediate success.

The only way a NWSL Academy system will get off the ground is to be either fully funded or much much cheaper than other competing youth clubs.

NWSL is still competing with College recruitment for player's goals and objectives. If the academy has no track record or a true ability to showcase competitively it will fail upon launch. The hope of being pro is just not enough with the few limited pro opportunities available. And if the academy can't draw the interest of the best players regionally then it will not serve the purpose to the pro club either.

If it's free then that changes the dynamic of the player is no longer the consumer, but as long as the player is the consumer Spirit would have to offer one hell of bang for the buck in comparison to other clubs who can do the same thing for their player.

I just don't see this changing overnight. It is going to be a long and thoughtful process for NWSL to launch any meaningful academy system. Yes, it will happen but it will take a decade and there is nothing wrong with that. It would be better to to roll it out slowly and get it right than try and rush it, waste time, money and look bad. NWSL would never recover from a a faceplant.
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Anonymous wrote:Adding Bayside FC continues this narrative of this shadow war on the boys side. Bayside FC has MLS Next. None of the clubs that have switched to ECNL from GA have MLSN on the boys side and none of the clubs that have come into GA or DPL have any ECNL affiliation from the boys side, NL or RL.

Yep, and just wait until NWSL Next happens.

It's becoming very clear what's going to happen next.

I think everything could change overnight.

All NWSL has to do is implement a homegrown rule and say that they'll have Acadamies in the next season.

And boom everything in girls you soccer would be flipped on it head.

While I do have my doubts, I'm not ruling that out. It would be a win win for them, they wouldn't have to put much into it at first, just wait and see how it blooms and then start figuring out the rest. People keep talking about the financials but nobody is expecting fully funded NWSL academies from the beginning. We all already pay a large sum to participate and would continue to do so.


That's now really how it works. It needs to be truly differentiated from any other local club. As another poster pointed, Washington Spirit Academy was terrible. If you are charging people money then they would have to beat expectations. Paying to be a part of a start up in a already saturated market does not lead to immediate success.

The only way a NWSL Academy system will get off the ground is to be either fully funded or much much cheaper than other competing youth clubs.

NWSL is still competing with College recruitment for player's goals and objectives. If the academy has no track record or a true ability to showcase competitively it will fail upon launch. The hope of being pro is just not enough with the few limited pro opportunities available. And if the academy can't draw the interest of the best players regionally then it will not serve the purpose to the pro club either.

If it's free then that changes the dynamic of the player is no longer the consumer, but as long as the player is the consumer Spirit would have to offer one hell of bang for the buck in comparison to other clubs who can do the same thing for their player.

I just don't see this changing overnight. It is going to be a long and thoughtful process for NWSL to launch any meaningful academy system. Yes, it will happen but it will take a decade and there is nothing wrong with that. It would be better to to roll it out slowly and get it right than try and rush it, waste time, money and look bad. NWSL would never recover from a a faceplant.
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Anonymous wrote:Adding Bayside FC continues this narrative of this shadow war on the boys side. Bayside FC has MLS Next. None of the clubs that have switched to ECNL from GA have MLSN on the boys side and none of the clubs that have come into GA or DPL have any ECNL affiliation from the boys side, NL or RL.

Yep, and just wait until NWSL Next happens.

It's becoming very clear what's going to happen next.

I think everything could change overnight.

All NWSL has to do is implement a homegrown rule and say that they'll have Acadamies in the next season.

And boom everything in girls you soccer would be flipped on it head.

While I do have my doubts, I'm not ruling that out. It would be a win win for them, they wouldn't have to put much into it at first, just wait and see how it blooms and then start figuring out the rest. People keep talking about the financials but nobody is expecting fully funded NWSL academies from the beginning. We all already pay a large sum to participate and would continue to do so.


That's now really how it works. It needs to be truly differentiated from any other local club. As another poster pointed, Washington Spirit Academy was terrible. If you are charging people money then they would have to beat expectations. Paying to be a part of a start up in a already saturated market does not lead to immediate success.

The only way a NWSL Academy system will get off the ground is to be either fully funded or much much cheaper than other competing youth clubs.

NWSL is still competing with College recruitment for player's goals and objectives. If the academy has no track record or a true ability to showcase competitively it will fail upon launch. The hope of being pro is just not enough with the few limited pro opportunities available. And if the academy can't draw the interest of the best players regionally then it will not serve the purpose to the pro club either.

If it's free then that changes the dynamic of the player is no longer the consumer, but as long as the player is the consumer Spirit would have to offer one hell of bang for the buck in comparison to other clubs who can do the same thing for their player.

I just don't see this changing overnight. It is going to be a long and thoughtful process for NWSL to launch any meaningful academy system. Yes, it will happen but it will take a decade and there is nothing wrong with that. It would be better to to roll it out slowly and get it right than try and rush it, waste time, money and look bad. NWSL would never recover from a a faceplant.

I think everything could change overnight.

All NWSL has to do is implement a homegrown rule and say that they'll have Acadamies in the next season.

And boom everything in girls you soccer would be flipped on it head.
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Anonymous wrote:Adding Bayside FC continues this narrative of this shadow war on the boys side. Bayside FC has MLS Next. None of the clubs that have switched to ECNL from GA have MLSN on the boys side and none of the clubs that have come into GA or DPL have any ECNL affiliation from the boys side, NL or RL.

Yep, and just wait until NWSL Next happens.

It's becoming very clear what's going to happen next.


While I do have my doubts, I'm not ruling that out. It would be a win win for them, they wouldn't have to put much into it at first, just wait and see how it blooms and then start figuring out the rest. People keep talking about the financials but nobody is expecting fully funded NWSL academies from the beginning. We all already pay a large sum to participate and would continue to do so.


Look -- let's see what happens. Maybe they do something, maybe they don't. I guess it is fun to keep putting the same points down page after page.

People are motivated to do something. GA is motivated; without it they are a second class program if not today then over time. MLS is motivated -- get rid of ECNL boys who have taken the GA role but are still hanging on. NWSL is for this as can build a pro pipeline maybe and also help build fan base. All of that is true. It is also true that there is no money to do this. I understand it will not be free. Even paid as now will not cover the build out that will be needed to do this. Each club will have a director that can't be fully funded by families. Also insurance (which will be substantial) and other costs that can't be covered by families. There is not money for this. There is not free money in NWSL. All of this is true -- might something happen -- sure. But no way to tell.
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Anonymous wrote:Adding Bayside FC continues this narrative of this shadow war on the boys side. Bayside FC has MLS Next. None of the clubs that have switched to ECNL from GA have MLSN on the boys side and none of the clubs that have come into GA or DPL have any ECNL affiliation from the boys side, NL or RL.

Yep, and just wait until NWSL Next happens.

It's becoming very clear what's going to happen next.

I think everything could change overnight.

All NWSL has to do is implement a homegrown rule and say that they'll have Acadamies in the next season.

And boom everything in girls you soccer would be flipped on it head.

While I do have my doubts, I'm not ruling that out. It would be a win win for them, they wouldn't have to put much into it at first, just wait and see how it blooms and then start figuring out the rest. People keep talking about the financials but nobody is expecting fully funded NWSL academies from the beginning. We all already pay a large sum to participate and would continue to do so.


That's now really how it works. It needs to be truly differentiated from any other local club. As another poster pointed, Washington Spirit Academy was terrible. If you are charging people money then they would have to beat expectations. Paying to be a part of a start up in a already saturated market does not lead to immediate success.

The only way a NWSL Academy system will get off the ground is to be either fully funded or much much cheaper than other competing youth clubs.

NWSL is still competing with College recruitment for player's goals and objectives. If the academy has no track record or a true ability to showcase competitively it will fail upon launch. The hope of being pro is just not enough with the few limited pro opportunities available. And if the academy can't draw the interest of the best players regionally then it will not serve the purpose to the pro club either.

If it's free then that changes the dynamic of the player is no longer the consumer, but as long as the player is the consumer Spirit would have to offer one hell of bang for the buck in comparison to other clubs who can do the same thing for their player.

I just don't see this changing overnight. It is going to be a long and thoughtful process for NWSL to launch any meaningful academy system. Yes, it will happen but it will take a decade and there is nothing wrong with that. It would be better to to roll it out slowly and get it right than try and rush it, waste time, money and look bad. NWSL would never recover from a a faceplant.

I think everything could change overnight.

All NWSL has to do is implement a homegrown rule and say that they'll have Acadamies in the next season.

And boom everything in girls you soccer would be flipped on it head.


I think you overestimate how delusional kids are about where they stand. In a given region, a homegrown rule may apply to one or two girls at most. The other few thousand playing at any one time understand that they won't go pro regardless
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Anonymous wrote:Adding Bayside FC continues this narrative of this shadow war on the boys side. Bayside FC has MLS Next. None of the clubs that have switched to ECNL from GA have MLSN on the boys side and none of the clubs that have come into GA or DPL have any ECNL affiliation from the boys side, NL or RL.

Yep, and just wait until NWSL Next happens.

It's becoming very clear what's going to happen next.

I think everything could change overnight.

All NWSL has to do is implement a homegrown rule and say that they'll have Acadamies in the next season.

And boom everything in girls you soccer would be flipped on it head.

While I do have my doubts, I'm not ruling that out. It would be a win win for them, they wouldn't have to put much into it at first, just wait and see how it blooms and then start figuring out the rest. People keep talking about the financials but nobody is expecting fully funded NWSL academies from the beginning. We all already pay a large sum to participate and would continue to do so.


That's now really how it works. It needs to be truly differentiated from any other local club. As another poster pointed, Washington Spirit Academy was terrible. If you are charging people money then they would have to beat expectations. Paying to be a part of a start up in a already saturated market does not lead to immediate success.

The only way a NWSL Academy system will get off the ground is to be either fully funded or much much cheaper than other competing youth clubs.

NWSL is still competing with College recruitment for player's goals and objectives. If the academy has no track record or a true ability to showcase competitively it will fail upon launch. The hope of being pro is just not enough with the few limited pro opportunities available. And if the academy can't draw the interest of the best players regionally then it will not serve the purpose to the pro club either.

If it's free then that changes the dynamic of the player is no longer the consumer, but as long as the player is the consumer Spirit would have to offer one hell of bang for the buck in comparison to other clubs who can do the same thing for their player.

I just don't see this changing overnight. It is going to be a long and thoughtful process for NWSL to launch any meaningful academy system. Yes, it will happen but it will take a decade and there is nothing wrong with that. It would be better to to roll it out slowly and get it right than try and rush it, waste time, money and look bad. NWSL would never recover from a a faceplant.

I think everything could change overnight.

All NWSL has to do is implement a homegrown rule and say that they'll have Acadamies in the next season.

And boom everything in girls you soccer would be flipped on it head.


What else would flip girls soccer on its head? NCAA losing its bid for an anti-trust exemption.
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Anonymous wrote:Adding Bayside FC continues this narrative of this shadow war on the boys side. Bayside FC has MLS Next. None of the clubs that have switched to ECNL from GA have MLSN on the boys side and none of the clubs that have come into GA or DPL have any ECNL affiliation from the boys side, NL or RL.

Yep, and just wait until NWSL Next happens.

It's becoming very clear what's going to happen next.

I think everything could change overnight.

All NWSL has to do is implement a homegrown rule and say that they'll have Acadamies in the next season.

And boom everything in girls you soccer would be flipped on it head.

While I do have my doubts, I'm not ruling that out. It would be a win win for them, they wouldn't have to put much into it at first, just wait and see how it blooms and then start figuring out the rest. People keep talking about the financials but nobody is expecting fully funded NWSL academies from the beginning. We all already pay a large sum to participate and would continue to do so.


That's now really how it works. It needs to be truly differentiated from any other local club. As another poster pointed, Washington Spirit Academy was terrible. If you are charging people money then they would have to beat expectations. Paying to be a part of a start up in a already saturated market does not lead to immediate success.

The only way a NWSL Academy system will get off the ground is to be either fully funded or much much cheaper than other competing youth clubs.

NWSL is still competing with College recruitment for player's goals and objectives. If the academy has no track record or a true ability to showcase competitively it will fail upon launch. The hope of being pro is just not enough with the few limited pro opportunities available. And if the academy can't draw the interest of the best players regionally then it will not serve the purpose to the pro club either.

If it's free then that changes the dynamic of the player is no longer the consumer, but as long as the player is the consumer Spirit would have to offer one hell of bang for the buck in comparison to other clubs who can do the same thing for their player.

I just don't see this changing overnight. It is going to be a long and thoughtful process for NWSL to launch any meaningful academy system. Yes, it will happen but it will take a decade and there is nothing wrong with that. It would be better to to roll it out slowly and get it right than try and rush it, waste time, money and look bad. NWSL would never recover from a a faceplant.

I think everything could change overnight.

All NWSL has to do is implement a homegrown rule and say that they'll have Acadamies in the next season.

And boom everything in girls you soccer would be flipped on it head.


What else would flip girls soccer on its head? NCAA losing its bid for an anti-trust exemption.

Bingo
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Anonymous wrote:Adding Bayside FC continues this narrative of this shadow war on the boys side. Bayside FC has MLS Next. None of the clubs that have switched to ECNL from GA have MLSN on the boys side and none of the clubs that have come into GA or DPL have any ECNL affiliation from the boys side, NL or RL.

Yep, and just wait until NWSL Next happens.

It's becoming very clear what's going to happen next.

I think everything could change overnight.

All NWSL has to do is implement a homegrown rule and say that they'll have Acadamies in the next season.

And boom everything in girls you soccer would be flipped on it head.

While I do have my doubts, I'm not ruling that out. It would be a win win for them, they wouldn't have to put much into it at first, just wait and see how it blooms and then start figuring out the rest. People keep talking about the financials but nobody is expecting fully funded NWSL academies from the beginning. We all already pay a large sum to participate and would continue to do so.


That's now really how it works. It needs to be truly differentiated from any other local club. As another poster pointed, Washington Spirit Academy was terrible. If you are charging people money then they would have to beat expectations. Paying to be a part of a start up in a already saturated market does not lead to immediate success.

The only way a NWSL Academy system will get off the ground is to be either fully funded or much much cheaper than other competing youth clubs.

NWSL is still competing with College recruitment for player's goals and objectives. If the academy has no track record or a true ability to showcase competitively it will fail upon launch. The hope of being pro is just not enough with the few limited pro opportunities available. And if the academy can't draw the interest of the best players regionally then it will not serve the purpose to the pro club either.

If it's free then that changes the dynamic of the player is no longer the consumer, but as long as the player is the consumer Spirit would have to offer one hell of bang for the buck in comparison to other clubs who can do the same thing for their player.

I just don't see this changing overnight. It is going to be a long and thoughtful process for NWSL to launch any meaningful academy system. Yes, it will happen but it will take a decade and there is nothing wrong with that. It would be better to to roll it out slowly and get it right than try and rush it, waste time, money and look bad. NWSL would never recover from a a faceplant.

I think everything could change overnight.

All NWSL has to do is implement a homegrown rule and say that they'll have Acadamies in the next season.

And boom everything in girls you soccer would be flipped on it head.


What else would flip girls soccer on its head? NCAA losing its bid for an anti-trust exemption.


Football isn't going anywhere and neither is title IX.
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Anonymous wrote:Adding Bayside FC continues this narrative of this shadow war on the boys side. Bayside FC has MLS Next. None of the clubs that have switched to ECNL from GA have MLSN on the boys side and none of the clubs that have come into GA or DPL have any ECNL affiliation from the boys side, NL or RL.

Yep, and just wait until NWSL Next happens.

It's becoming very clear what's going to happen next.

I think everything could change overnight.

All NWSL has to do is implement a homegrown rule and say that they'll have Acadamies in the next season.

And boom everything in girls you soccer would be flipped on it head.

While I do have my doubts, I'm not ruling that out. It would be a win win for them, they wouldn't have to put much into it at first, just wait and see how it blooms and then start figuring out the rest. People keep talking about the financials but nobody is expecting fully funded NWSL academies from the beginning. We all already pay a large sum to participate and would continue to do so.


That's now really how it works. It needs to be truly differentiated from any other local club. As another poster pointed, Washington Spirit Academy was terrible. If you are charging people money then they would have to beat expectations. Paying to be a part of a start up in a already saturated market does not lead to immediate success.

The only way a NWSL Academy system will get off the ground is to be either fully funded or much much cheaper than other competing youth clubs.

NWSL is still competing with College recruitment for player's goals and objectives. If the academy has no track record or a true ability to showcase competitively it will fail upon launch. The hope of being pro is just not enough with the few limited pro opportunities available. And if the academy can't draw the interest of the best players regionally then it will not serve the purpose to the pro club either.

If it's free then that changes the dynamic of the player is no longer the consumer, but as long as the player is the consumer Spirit would have to offer one hell of bang for the buck in comparison to other clubs who can do the same thing for their player.

I just don't see this changing overnight. It is going to be a long and thoughtful process for NWSL to launch any meaningful academy system. Yes, it will happen but it will take a decade and there is nothing wrong with that. It would be better to to roll it out slowly and get it right than try and rush it, waste time, money and look bad. NWSL would never recover from a a faceplant.

I think everything could change overnight.

All NWSL has to do is implement a homegrown rule and say that they'll have Acadamies in the next season.

And boom everything in girls you soccer would be flipped on it head.


I think you overestimate how delusional kids are about where they stand. In a given region, a homegrown rule may apply to one or two girls at most. The other few thousand playing at any one time understand that they won't go pro regardless


The kids and parents may be delusional but the NWSL Clubs can't feed into that. The homegrown rule is ultimately how the academy will be funded and if it isn't taken seriously by the club and attracts serious talent then its nothing more than pay to play fan experience.
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