2024 US News rankings

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:On the other hand, UVA funnels in dozens of geniuses from TJ every year, and all of those kids are more capable than any kid at Duke.

PP really thinks that TJ is the only school in this country with STEM geniuses, with its whopping one Regeneron finalist in the last three years!

TJ still gets the best talent of any high school and they flock to UVA. If Duke was better why wouldn't more kids from TJ go to Duke?

Great point! TJ only sends about 5 kids to Duke, Harvard, Princeton, and Penn each year, they must all be worse than UVA!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On the other hand, UVA funnels in dozens of geniuses from TJ every year, and all of those kids are more capable than any kid at Duke.

PP really thinks that TJ is the only school in this country with STEM geniuses, with its whopping one Regeneron finalist in the last three years!

TJ still gets the best talent of any high school and they flock to UVA. If Duke was better why wouldn't more kids from TJ go to Duke?

Your first statement is correct. However, TJ students do not flock to UVA because UVA has a weak STEM programs. In fact, when my kid was applying to colleges from TJ, very few top students would even bother applying to UVA and mostly average and below average kids applied. TJ students would rather attend VT or UMD to major in STEM than attend UVA and try to do CS or Engineering.

TJ kids attending UVA halved in the past 6-7 years and doubled to UMD.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On the other hand, UVA funnels in dozens of geniuses from TJ every year, and all of those kids are more capable than any kid at Duke.

PP really thinks that TJ is the only school in this country with STEM geniuses, with its whopping one Regeneron finalist in the last three years!

TJ still gets the best talent of any high school and they flock to UVA. If Duke was better why wouldn't more kids from TJ go to Duke?

Duke is $91,000+ a year. UVA is $37,716 for in-state. We didn’t even consider Duke a possibility. No merit aid; no financial aid. MC donut hole.

Yep. Reality for many UMC-MC families in the DMV. Over $150-175 HHI (which is pretty normal here), you will get ZERO aid. If you made less, you could go to Princeton or Hopkins or one of the many 'need blind" schools absolutely free. Otherwise, you can expect to pay ~$730,000 to put 2 kids through a private like Duke or an Ivy or BC or Georgetown, etc. And lest we forget that price is for today. It will be even higher in 5-10 years. A year of tuition will be crossing $100k in the near future.

[Anonymous]

^^ and this is what everyone should be outraged by...the rising cost and the crazy escalation of tuition over the past 30 years.

[Anonymous]

Georgetown REQUIRES EVERYONE to submit scores. It also looks at AP exam scores. It requires an interview. The fact that the entire student body is included in the test score average (and not just only a portion of admits with high scores that falsely inflate the average) is very impressive that GU’s are that high.

It is self selecting because kids with bad test scores can’t apply test optional so it weeds out a ton of applicants with inflated GPAs and bad test scores from even applying.

It actually should be ranked much higher because its selectivity is lower than the 11% due to those factors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown REQUIRES EVERYONE to submit scores. It also looks at AP exam scores. It requires an interview. The fact that the entire student body is included in the test score average (and not just only a portion of admits with high scores that falsely inflate the average) is very impressive that GU’s are that high.

It is self selecting because kids with bad test scores can’t apply test optional so it weeds out a ton of applicants with inflated GPAs and bad test scores from even applying.

It actually should be ranked much higher because its selectivity is lower than the 11% due to those factors.

It also requires scores from every single sitting so they can see who prepped and prepped and prepped and took it 12 times vs a kid that knocked it out the first time which is more indicative of natural intelligence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On the other hand, UVA funnels in dozens of geniuses from TJ every year, and all of those kids are more capable than any kid at Duke.

PP really thinks that TJ is the only school in this country with STEM geniuses, with its whopping one Regeneron finalist in the last three years!

TJ still gets the best talent of any high school and they flock to UVA. If Duke was better why wouldn't more kids from TJ go to Duke?

Your first statement is correct. However, TJ students do not flock to UVA because UVA has a weak STEM programs. In fact, when my kid was applying to colleges from TJ, very few top students would even bother applying to UVA and mostly average and below average kids applied. TJ students would rather attend VT or UMD to major in STEM than attend UVA and try to do CS or Engineering.

TJ kids attending UVA halved in the past 6-7 years and doubled to UMD.

+1

TJ sent as many students to William & Mary as UMD last year, which isn’t exactly known for STEM, and it also sent twice as many to UVA as Tech. UMD also offers merit aid, which UVA does not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On the other hand, UVA funnels in dozens of geniuses from TJ every year, and all of those kids are more capable than any kid at Duke.

PP really thinks that TJ is the only school in this country with STEM geniuses, with its whopping one Regeneron finalist in the last three years!

TJ still gets the best talent of any high school and they flock to UVA. If Duke was better why wouldn't more kids from TJ go to Duke?

Your first statement is correct. However, TJ students do not flock to UVA because UVA has a weak STEM programs. In fact, when my kid was applying to colleges from TJ, very few top students would even bother applying to UVA and mostly average and below average kids applied. TJ students would rather attend VT or UMD to major in STEM than attend UVA and try to do CS or Engineering.

TJ kids attending UVA halved in the past 6-7 years and doubled to UMD.

+1

TJ sent as many students to William & Mary as UMD last year, which isn’t exactly known for STEM, and it also sent twice as many to UVA as Tech. UMD also offers merit aid, which UVA does not.

However, W&M is known for in-state tuitions. In addition, while your average TJ kids are merely embarrassed to attend UVA, they wouldn't be caught dead attending VT.

[Anonymous]

Twenty pages later, how did I know this thread would still be about UVA!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown REQUIRES EVERYONE to submit scores. It also looks at AP exam scores. It requires an interview. The fact that the entire student body is included in the test score average (and not just only a portion of admits with high scores that falsely inflate the average) is very impressive that GU’s are that high.

It is self selecting because kids with bad test scores can’t apply test optional so it weeds out a ton of applicants with inflated GPAs and bad test scores from even applying.

It actually should be ranked much higher because its selectivity is lower than the 11% due to those factors.

Those facts aren’t new and many schools are not TO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:(gets popcorn 🍿)

At the USNWR awards ceremony



Some of you schools need to just sit down and be happy they let you in at all

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:(gets popcorn 🍿)

At the USNWR awards ceremony



Some of you schools need to just sit down and be happy they let you in at all

That sounds familiar to Asian students at TJ.

[Anonymous]

Not surprisingly, I am pleased with the rankings as I have a kid at UC.

The UC is rigorous, and will exposure you to a cross-section of society for sure, but perhaps lacks the nice little touches of a small SLAC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Twenty pages later, how did I know this thread would still be about UVA!

To be clear, most of the UVA mega threads are started by (the?) UVA basher(s). There is at least one poster on here who is fixated on rankings and putting down UVA. He attended Rice (which he constantly promotes) and was rejected by UVA and thinks that more STEM-focused schools should rank higher. He’s constantly promoting Cornell, MIT, Caltech, Stanford, UC-Berkeley and UM.

Also, some of what appears to be initial UVA support is a straw-man post by the basher so he can claim UVA boosterism and start his put downs. These initial posts likely come from the same poster because the original and bashing posts quickly follow each other. Also, the first post that supports UVA frequently comes early in the thread, which, again, is meant to generate antagonism toward UVA (they’re obnoxious).

Yes, UVA is a great school and elite, but much of the nuttiness generated around it is trolling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Twenty pages later, how did I know this thread would still be about UVA!

To be clear, most of the UVA mega threads are started by (the?) UVA basher(s). There is at least one poster on here who is fixated on rankings and putting down UVA. He attended Rice (which he constantly promotes) and was rejected by UVA and thinks that more STEM-focused schools should rank higher. He’s constantly promoting Cornell, MIT, Caltech, Stanford, UC-Berkeley and UM.

Also, some of what appears to be initial UVA support is a straw-man post by the basher so he can claim UVA boosterism and start his put downs. These initial posts likely come from the same poster because the original and bashing posts quickly follow each other. Also, the first post that supports UVA frequently comes early in the thread, which, again, is meant to generate antagonism toward UVA (they’re obnoxious).

Yes, UVA is a great school and elite, but much of the nuttiness generated around it is trolling.

UVA is definitely not elite. Control yourself - don't go overboard.