Biden strikes out with King Manchin

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Anonymous wrote:What means do they have to raise taxes now? Are they going to do stuff in budget reconciliation or whatever? I have no idea how it all works. Is there still a way for them to raise taxes this year or soon without Republican support?

I know this is a very old post and things have changed since December, but why would you raise taxes when so many Americans (those that work) are one paycheck away from homelessness?

In order to cover the non-working and/or PT workers? I am legitimately sorry that having children/living is so expensive, but why do we have to change things in order to cover people who choose not to support themselves?

If you’re disabled, we take care of that (SS disability), if you need a job, there are plenty.

Just a reality check here...
Compared to the start of the pandemic, now fewer people are unemployed, wages have gone up, household savings have gone up, fewer children are in poverty, people are less close to the brink of homelessness now than they were before. Yet for some reason people want to pretend the opposite is the case?

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Anonymous wrote:What means do they have to raise taxes now? Are they going to do stuff in budget reconciliation or whatever? I have no idea how it all works. Is there still a way for them to raise taxes this year or soon without Republican support?

I know this is a very old post and things have changed since December, but why would you raise taxes when so many Americans (those that work) are one paycheck away from homelessness?

In order to cover the non-working and/or PT workers? I am legitimately sorry that having children/living is so expensive, but why do we have to change things in order to cover people who choose not to support themselves?

If you’re disabled, we take care of that (SS disability), if you need a job, there are plenty.

Just a reality check here...
Compared to the start of the pandemic, now fewer people are unemployed, wages have gone up, household savings have gone up, fewer children are in poverty, people are less close to the brink of homelessness now than they were before. Yet for some reason people want to pretend the opposite is the case?

Where did anyone say that wasn't the case? But handing 4X the unemployment, endless stimulus checks, and child UBI is not the answer as the inflation rate has tripled in that time period as well.

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I really don't give a shit. Our civil and voting rights are under threat. Instead of grandstanding speeches the day before a failed vote after a year of ignoring the problem maybe Biden should be focused on that instead of his universal social welfare policies.

Damn. Manchin is willing to support voting rights - stop trying to take a mile and accept a few feet of voter protections and come back for more.

No, he’s not. Stop trying to excuse him.

He's literally a co-sponsor on the Freedom To Vote Act https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/117/s2747/cosponsors

It was filibustered by his Republican friends. Didn't he promise to deliver 10 Republicans in the name of bipartisanship?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What means do they have to raise taxes now? Are they going to do stuff in budget reconciliation or whatever? I have no idea how it all works. Is there still a way for them to raise taxes this year or soon without Republican support?

I know this is a very old post and things have changed since December, but why would you raise taxes when so many Americans (those that work) are one paycheck away from homelessness?

In order to cover the non-working and/or PT workers? I am legitimately sorry that having children/living is so expensive, but why do we have to change things in order to cover people who choose not to support themselves?

If you’re disabled, we take care of that (SS disability), if you need a job, there are plenty.

Just a reality check here...
Compared to the start of the pandemic, now fewer people are unemployed, wages have gone up, household savings have gone up, fewer children are in poverty, people are less close to the brink of homelessness now than they were before. Yet for some reason people want to pretend the opposite is the case?

Where did anyone say that wasn't the case? But handing 4X the unemployment, endless stimulus checks, and child UBI is not the answer as the inflation rate has tripled in that time period as well.

Most of the inflation has been driven by gasoline prices, natural gas prices, used car prices and supply chain issues due to insufficient workers and drivers to move goods - which have virtually nothing to do with unemployment checks and stimulus.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What means do they have to raise taxes now? Are they going to do stuff in budget reconciliation or whatever? I have no idea how it all works. Is there still a way for them to raise taxes this year or soon without Republican support?

I know this is a very old post and things have changed since December, but why would you raise taxes when so many Americans (those that work) are one paycheck away from homelessness?

In order to cover the non-working and/or PT workers? I am legitimately sorry that having children/living is so expensive, but why do we have to change things in order to cover people who choose not to support themselves?

If you’re disabled, we take care of that (SS disability), if you need a job, there are plenty.

Just a reality check here...
Compared to the start of the pandemic, now fewer people are unemployed, wages have gone up, household savings have gone up, fewer children are in poverty, people are less close to the brink of homelessness now than they were before. Yet for some reason people want to pretend the opposite is the case?

Where did anyone say that wasn't the case? But handing 4X the unemployment, endless stimulus checks, and child UBI is not the answer as the inflation rate has tripled in that time period as well.

Most of the inflation has been driven by gasoline prices, natural gas prices, used car prices and supply chain issues due to insufficient workers and drivers to move goods - which have virtually nothing to do with unemployment checks and stimulus.

Uh huh - according to who? Biden who doesn't believe his own polls? Or his aides who were desperate to pass a $3 trillion social welfare bill?

So glad there's sanity in the U.S. Senate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What means do they have to raise taxes now? Are they going to do stuff in budget reconciliation or whatever? I have no idea how it all works. Is there still a way for them to raise taxes this year or soon without Republican support?

I know this is a very old post and things have changed since December, but why would you raise taxes when so many Americans (those that work) are one paycheck away from homelessness?

In order to cover the non-working and/or PT workers? I am legitimately sorry that having children/living is so expensive, but why do we have to change things in order to cover people who choose not to support themselves?

If you’re disabled, we take care of that (SS disability), if you need a job, there are plenty.

Just a reality check here...
Compared to the start of the pandemic, now fewer people are unemployed, wages have gone up, household savings have gone up, fewer children are in poverty, people are less close to the brink of homelessness now than they were before. Yet for some reason people want to pretend the opposite is the case?

Where did anyone say that wasn't the case? But handing 4X the unemployment, endless stimulus checks, and child UBI is not the answer as the inflation rate has tripled in that time period as well.

Most of the inflation has been driven by gasoline prices, natural gas prices, used car prices and supply chain issues due to insufficient workers and drivers to move goods - which have virtually nothing to do with unemployment checks and stimulus.

Uh huh - according to who? Biden who doesn't believe his own polls? Or his aides who were desperate to pass a $3 trillion social welfare bill?

So glad there's sanity in the U.S. Senate.

^^^ He could solve some of that with a chat with his daughter.

[Anonymous]

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I really don't give a shit. Our civil and voting rights are under threat. Instead of grandstanding speeches the day before a failed vote after a year of ignoring the problem maybe Biden should be focused on that instead of his universal social welfare policies.

Damn. Manchin is willing to support voting rights - stop trying to take a mile and accept a few feet of voter protections and come back for more.

No, he’s not. Stop trying to excuse him.

He's literally a co-sponsor on the Freedom To Vote Act https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/117/s2747/cosponsors

It was filibustered by his Republican friends. Didn't he promise to deliver 10 Republicans in the name of bipartisanship?

Yeah and Biden promised to cross the bipartisan divide with his 50 years of experience in the Senate. He didn’t. At least Manchin got the votes needed for Infrastructure.

[Anonymous]

Like I've been saying all along, Manchin is NOT operating in good faith. He keeps moving the goalposts. Now he's saying they will be starting completely from scratch, has taken his December offer off of the table, is unwilling to do anything about anything at all until "inflation, covid and the national debt" are dealt with first. But of course he isn't *actually* interested in solving any of those, either.

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I really don't give a shit. Our civil and voting rights are under threat. Instead of grandstanding speeches the day before a failed vote after a year of ignoring the problem maybe Biden should be focused on that instead of his universal social welfare policies.

Damn. Manchin is willing to support voting rights - stop trying to take a mile and accept a few feet of voter protections and come back for more.

No, he’s not. Stop trying to excuse him.

He's literally a co-sponsor on the Freedom To Vote Act https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/117/s2747/cosponsors

It was filibustered by his Republican friends. Didn't he promise to deliver 10 Republicans in the name of bipartisanship?

Yeah and Biden promised to cross the bipartisan divide with his 50 years of experience in the Senate. He didn’t. At least Manchin got the votes needed for Infrastructure.

Crossing the bipartisan divide takes two sides. Republicans are staunchly entrenched in assholedom. Can't blame Biden for that. So your point is kinda... pointless.

[Anonymous]

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I really don't give a shit. Our civil and voting rights are under threat. Instead of grandstanding speeches the day before a failed vote after a year of ignoring the problem maybe Biden should be focused on that instead of his universal social welfare policies.

Damn. Manchin is willing to support voting rights - stop trying to take a mile and accept a few feet of voter protections and come back for more.

No, he’s not. Stop trying to excuse him.

He's literally a co-sponsor on the Freedom To Vote Act https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/117/s2747/cosponsors

It was filibustered by his Republican friends. Didn't he promise to deliver 10 Republicans in the name of bipartisanship?

Yeah and Biden promised to cross the bipartisan divide with his 50 years of experience in the Senate. He didn’t. At least Manchin got the votes needed for Infrastructure.

Crossing the bipartisan divide takes two sides. Republicans are staunchly entrenched in assholedom. Can't blame Biden for that. So your point is kinda... pointless.

Oh, please.
You don't cross the divide by approaching Congress with q 3.5 TRILLION dollar proposal stuffed with port. That is exactly where he started.
And, you don't cross the divide by lying that it costs $zero.
And, you don't cross the divide by insulting and demeaning people who decide not to get vaccinated - especially now that we find the CDC has said that natural immunity is more robust than vaccines in fighting Delta.
And, you don't cross the divide by firing millions of Americans because they won't get jabbed when many of them have natural immunity.
And, you don't cross the divide by putting forth a partisan bill on "voting rights" that isn't voting rights at all.
And, you don't cross the divide by insisting inflation is transitory.
And, you don't cross the divide by planning and executing a disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan then claiming it was an "extraordinary success."
And, you don't cross the divide by totally ignoring the southern border allowing millions to cross illegally.

Biden is to blame for every bit of the divide. He has been a disaster.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

I really don't give a shit. Our civil and voting rights are under threat. Instead of grandstanding speeches the day before a failed vote after a year of ignoring the problem maybe Biden should be focused on that instead of his universal social welfare policies.

Damn. Manchin is willing to support voting rights - stop trying to take a mile and accept a few feet of voter protections and come back for more.

No, he’s not. Stop trying to excuse him.

He's literally a co-sponsor on the Freedom To Vote Act https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/117/s2747/cosponsors

It was filibustered by his Republican friends. Didn't he promise to deliver 10 Republicans in the name of bipartisanship?

Yeah and Biden promised to cross the bipartisan divide with his 50 years of experience in the Senate. He didn’t. At least Manchin got the votes needed for Infrastructure.

Crossing the bipartisan divide takes two sides. Republicans are staunchly entrenched in assholedom. Can't blame Biden for that. So your point is kinda... pointless.

Oh, please.
You don't cross the divide by approaching Congress with q 3.5 TRILLION dollar proposal stuffed with port. That is exactly where he started.
And, you don't cross the divide by lying that it costs $zero.
And, you don't cross the divide by insulting and demeaning people who decide not to get vaccinated - especially now that we find the CDC has said that natural immunity is more robust than vaccines in fighting Delta.
And, you don't cross the divide by firing millions of Americans because they won't get jabbed when many of them have natural immunity.
And, you don't cross the divide by putting forth a partisan bill on "voting rights" that isn't voting rights at all.
And, you don't cross the divide by insisting inflation is transitory.
And, you don't cross the divide by planning and executing a disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan then claiming it was an "extraordinary success."
And, you don't cross the divide by totally ignoring the southern border allowing millions to cross illegally.

Biden is to blame for every bit of the divide. He has been a disaster.

That's all over-the-top lies, hyperbolic bullshit and manufactured hysteria. Your complaints are a perfect example of why there is no bipartisanship in America.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I really don't give a shit. Our civil and voting rights are under threat. Instead of grandstanding speeches the day before a failed vote after a year of ignoring the problem maybe Biden should be focused on that instead of his universal social welfare policies.

Damn. Manchin is willing to support voting rights - stop trying to take a mile and accept a few feet of voter protections and come back for more.

No, he’s not. Stop trying to excuse him.

He's literally a co-sponsor on the Freedom To Vote Act https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/117/s2747/cosponsors

It was filibustered by his Republican friends. Didn't he promise to deliver 10 Republicans in the name of bipartisanship?

Yeah and Biden promised to cross the bipartisan divide with his 50 years of experience in the Senate. He didn’t. At least Manchin got the votes needed for Infrastructure.

Crossing the bipartisan divide takes two sides. Republicans are staunchly entrenched in assholedom. Can't blame Biden for that. So your point is kinda... pointless.

Finally, some sanity on this board instead of Republicans pretending that Manchin is acting ethically. Bipartisan means “both parties.” The GOP’s stated goal is to obstruct and worsen everything so that the Democrats lose. That’s not bipartisanship, that’s governmental terrorism.

[Anonymous]

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I really don't give a shit. Our civil and voting rights are under threat. Instead of grandstanding speeches the day before a failed vote after a year of ignoring the problem maybe Biden should be focused on that instead of his universal social welfare policies.

Damn. Manchin is willing to support voting rights - stop trying to take a mile and accept a few feet of voter protections and come back for more.

No, he’s not. Stop trying to excuse him.

He's literally a co-sponsor on the Freedom To Vote Act https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/117/s2747/cosponsors

It was filibustered by his Republican friends. Didn't he promise to deliver 10 Republicans in the name of bipartisanship?

Yeah and Biden promised to cross the bipartisan divide with his 50 years of experience in the Senate. He didn’t. At least Manchin got the votes needed for Infrastructure.

Crossing the bipartisan divide takes two sides. Republicans are staunchly entrenched in assholedom. Can't blame Biden for that. So your point is kinda... pointless.

Oh, please.
You don't cross the divide by approaching Congress with q 3.5 TRILLION dollar proposal stuffed with port. That is exactly where he started.
And, you don't cross the divide by lying that it costs $zero.
And, you don't cross the divide by insulting and demeaning people who decide not to get vaccinated - especially now that we find the CDC has said that natural immunity is more robust than vaccines in fighting Delta.
And, you don't cross the divide by firing millions of Americans because they won't get jabbed when many of them have natural immunity.
And, you don't cross the divide by putting forth a partisan bill on "voting rights" that isn't voting rights at all.
And, you don't cross the divide by insisting inflation is transitory.
And, you don't cross the divide by planning and executing a disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan then claiming it was an "extraordinary success."
And, you don't cross the divide by totally ignoring the southern border allowing millions to cross illegally.

Biden is to blame for every bit of the divide. He has been a disaster.

That's all over-the-top lies, hyperbolic bullshit and manufactured hysteria. Your complaints are a perfect example of why there is no bipartisanship in America.

Nope. Everything above is true.

[Anonymous]

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I really don't give a shit. Our civil and voting rights are under threat. Instead of grandstanding speeches the day before a failed vote after a year of ignoring the problem maybe Biden should be focused on that instead of his universal social welfare policies.

Damn. Manchin is willing to support voting rights - stop trying to take a mile and accept a few feet of voter protections and come back for more.

No, he’s not. Stop trying to excuse him.

He's literally a co-sponsor on the Freedom To Vote Act https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/117/s2747/cosponsors

It was filibustered by his Republican friends. Didn't he promise to deliver 10 Republicans in the name of bipartisanship?

Yeah and Biden promised to cross the bipartisan divide with his 50 years of experience in the Senate. He didn’t. At least Manchin got the votes needed for Infrastructure.

Crossing the bipartisan divide takes two sides. Republicans are staunchly entrenched in assholedom. Can't blame Biden for that. So your point is kinda... pointless.

Oh, please.
You don't cross the divide by approaching Congress with q 3.5 TRILLION dollar proposal stuffed with port. That is exactly where he started.
And, you don't cross the divide by lying that it costs $zero.
And, you don't cross the divide by insulting and demeaning people who decide not to get vaccinated - especially now that we find the CDC has said that natural immunity is more robust than vaccines in fighting Delta.
And, you don't cross the divide by firing millions of Americans because they won't get jabbed when many of them have natural immunity.
And, you don't cross the divide by putting forth a partisan bill on "voting rights" that isn't voting rights at all.
And, you don't cross the divide by insisting inflation is transitory.
And, you don't cross the divide by planning and executing a disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan then claiming it was an "extraordinary success."
And, you don't cross the divide by totally ignoring the southern border allowing millions to cross illegally.

Biden is to blame for every bit of the divide. He has been a disaster.

That's all over-the-top lies, hyperbolic bullshit and manufactured hysteria. Your complaints are a perfect example of why there is no bipartisanship in America.

Nope. Everything above is true.

In RWNJ land, sure. But not everyone is involved in a galloping case of shared psychosis like GOP voters are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

I really don't give a shit. Our civil and voting rights are under threat. Instead of grandstanding speeches the day before a failed vote after a year of ignoring the problem maybe Biden should be focused on that instead of his universal social welfare policies.

Damn. Manchin is willing to support voting rights - stop trying to take a mile and accept a few feet of voter protections and come back for more.

No, he’s not. Stop trying to excuse him.

He's literally a co-sponsor on the Freedom To Vote Act https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/117/s2747/cosponsors

It was filibustered by his Republican friends. Didn't he promise to deliver 10 Republicans in the name of bipartisanship?

Yeah and Biden promised to cross the bipartisan divide with his 50 years of experience in the Senate. He didn’t. At least Manchin got the votes needed for Infrastructure.

Crossing the bipartisan divide takes two sides. Republicans are staunchly entrenched in assholedom. Can't blame Biden for that. So your point is kinda... pointless.

Finally, some sanity on this board instead of Republicans pretending that Manchin is acting ethically. Bipartisan means “both parties.” The GOP’s stated goal is to obstruct and worsen everything so that the Democrats lose. That’s not bipartisanship, that’s governmental terrorism.

And let's also drop the bullshit that there is anything noble, ethical or principled about what Manchin and Sinema did. They sold out. They took a bunch of money from the opposition party in exchange for torpedoing Dem bills. End of story.