Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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The pastor of the Alfred Street Baptist Church nailed it: https://www.instagram.com/p/DOmYt0QESKu/

He's a race baiting POS. But I'll give him credit for having big balls and putting a huge target on his back.

What specifically do you disagree with that he said? And what do you think should happen to him for exercising his right to free speech?

Do you like this poster’s knee jerk default to a violent threat?

“Target on his back.”

I love the left. Any critique is a racist threat right? I must be a Nazi, huh?

LOLOLOLLOLOLOL

You are definitely a racist and a person of ill breeding.

Right on que...

¿De qué estás hablando, chico?

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This is an odd takeaway. No one I know thinks he deserves to die. But there were other people who died that day, like those shot in Colorado, who we will mourn more.

There’s a whole website calling a database full of people “murderers” and most of them simply posted his views online.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess the legacy of Charlie Kirk will be "sure, disagree with me, but if you do you'll lose your job"

Celebrating an innocent man being murdered isn't just disagreeing with someone. It's disgusting and we should be doing better. These lunatics losing their jobs is a GOOD thing for society.

The pastor at Alfred Street Baptist wasn't celebrating his death at all. Yet according to a PP, he now has a target on his back.

According to a lot of people anyone that doesn't put Charlie Kirk on a pedestal is "celebrating his death". No, I don't care that he died and it certainly doesn't make me happy. But he was horrible. Unfortunately there are many more like him.

Well unless you put out a tik tok talking about how happy you are that he died, I wouldn't worry. The people who are losing their jobs are gleefully celebrating murder. I think we can all agree that murder is a tragedy that shouldn't be celebrated or laughed about.

Many if not most of the people being targeted have not been remotely "celebrating" Charlie Kirk's assassination. This is a lie to excuse right wing threats and violence against people they just don't like.

One of the first names listed on the sites was Rachel Gilmore, an independent journalist at Bubble Pop Media who wrote on X that she was “terrified to think of how far-right fans of Kirk, aching for more violence, could very well turn this into an even more radicalizing moment. Will they now believe their fears have been proven right and feel they have a right to ‘retaliate,’ regardless of who actually was behind the initial shooting?”

As WIRED reported, this is exactly how much of the far right—along with Republican lawmakers including President Donald Trump—did respond to the news, even though no suspect had been arrested and no motive had been revealed.

For Gilmore, the impact of her inclusion on the website was instant and terrifying.

“This website has me genuinely afraid for my safety,” Gilmore tells WIRED. “I feel awful for anyone whose name is on it. It’s clear that the purpose of the website is to do exactly what the post that landed me on there warned Kirk’s supporters might do: retaliate.”

Gilmore has received multiple death and rape threats since the site went live on Wednesday evening. (WIRED reviewed screenshots of emails and direct messages Gilmore has received to verify the threats.) She has not reported the threats to the police yet, she says.

“I’ve gotten emails and DMs promising to find out where I live,” Gilmore says. “I have folks claiming my information is all over 4chan telling me in the same breath that they hope I get ‘raped and killed’ and telling me to ‘have fun walking the streets of’ my city, which they name.”

https://www.wired.com/story/right-wing-activists-are-targeting-people-for-allegedly-celebrating-charlie-kirks-death/

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Anonymous wrote:I guess the legacy of Charlie Kirk will be "sure, disagree with me, but if you do you'll lose your job"

Celebrating an innocent man being murdered isn't just disagreeing with someone. It's disgusting and we should be doing better. These lunatics losing their jobs is a GOOD thing for society.

The pastor at Alfred Street Baptist wasn't celebrating his death at all. Yet according to a PP, he now has a target on his back.

According to a lot of people anyone that doesn't put Charlie Kirk on a pedestal is "celebrating his death". No, I don't care that he died and it certainly doesn't make me happy. But he was horrible. Unfortunately there are many more like him.

Well unless you put out a tik tok talking about how happy you are that he died, I wouldn't worry. The people who are losing their jobs are gleefully celebrating murder. I think we can all agree that murder is a tragedy that shouldn't be celebrated or laughed about.

and yet, people on the right are not held to the same standard...why?

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Anonymous wrote:If Lance and Tyler were this flaming, furry bizarre counterculture couple, they would have left Utah.

+1 This is what I said as soon as Robinson was identified. If he were actually a lefty he would have take his great ACT score and 4.0 GPA and gone anywhere else. For free. Now people are trying to convince us that his one semester at Utah State of all places radicalized him. Come the f*** on.

The shooter went to USU for one semester 3 years ago. He wasn't there long enough to get "indoctrinated" (ie educated and exposed to people of different backgrounds and cultures)

I read that his single semester was online. He spent a few months logging into blackboard, that’s it.

That seems likely given COVID. Lots of kids dropped out then, even ones who would have been successful otherwise. The strong ones got back on track. Many others didn't.

We are seeing the results of the seeds that were planted during Covid. Whatever content people took in when we are all locked in the house has now fruited into a lot of the intense beliefs and online behaviors we see now. We were all chronically online that year, and everyone didn’t come out the same on the other side.

That’s when Tyler and Lance started hacking into domestic and foreign govt agencies probably.

When were they hired by the foreign governments? Because there's literally zero connection between hacking into an agency's computer and being hired by them, usually.

They could have been hired after freshman year.

No they worked for the CIA or were independent. They weren’t assisting foreign governments. God…

Why would the CIA have hired them? That is also crazy talk. They don't seem very stable. Or discreet.

He is a brilliant hacker, he can hack into anything he wants.

But cyber operations is not big at CIA. It’s another agency.

Ok NSA whatever. He could have been an independent contractor.

You watch too many movies.

This! Your understanding of how cyber operations works, how contractors and the government works is pure fiction.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess the legacy of Charlie Kirk will be "sure, disagree with me, but if you do you'll lose your job"

Celebrating an innocent man being murdered isn't just disagreeing with someone. It's disgusting and we should be doing better. These lunatics losing their jobs is a GOOD thing for society.

The pastor at Alfred Street Baptist wasn't celebrating his death at all. Yet according to a PP, he now has a target on his back.

According to a lot of people anyone that doesn't put Charlie Kirk on a pedestal is "celebrating his death". No, I don't care that he died and it certainly doesn't make me happy. But he was horrible. Unfortunately there are many more like him.

Well unless you put out a tik tok talking about how happy you are that he died, I wouldn't worry. The people who are losing their jobs are gleefully celebrating murder. I think we can all agree that murder is a tragedy that shouldn't be celebrated or laughed about.

People were showing happiness when the liberal Supreme Court justices died.

They were happy when George Floyd died.

And that is their right. Freedom of Speech.

Freedom of speech - sure. But don't get upset when acting like an evil nutcase gets you ostracized - socially and professionally.

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This is an odd takeaway. No one I know thinks he deserves to die. But there were other people who died that day, like those shot in Colorado, who we will mourn more.

There’s a whole website calling a database full of people “murderers” and most of them simply posted his views online.

You mean the website run by the gay trans pro-maga darling of the GOP?

https://www.advocate.com/politics/who-is-scott-presler

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The relatives are on record now saying the partner hated Christians and conservatives, and that Tyler also had those beliefs now. When are you all going to stop denying facts?

Ahh sure, anonymous, unnamed "relatives" and we have no way of independently verifying any of this.

Grandma stated early on that the family was Maga. Grandmas never wrong.

My grandma wouldn't eat at restaurants that hired blacks. Was she right?

False equivalency. She was racist unless she shot a black person in a restaurant.

The family are gunners and religious extremists. They nourished their kids on guns and bible. Photos of their kids holding guns bigger than their bodies. God knows how many creatures were killed for sport in that family. This is a fact. And they’ll live in purgatory for the rest of their lives.

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Anonymous wrote:If Lance and Tyler were this flaming, furry bizarre counterculture couple, they would have left Utah.

+1 This is what I said as soon as Robinson was identified. If he were actually a lefty he would have take his great ACT score and 4.0 GPA and gone anywhere else. For free. Now people are trying to convince us that his one semester at Utah State of all places radicalized him. Come the f*** on.

The shooter went to USU for one semester 3 years ago. He wasn't there long enough to get "indoctrinated" (ie educated and exposed to people of different backgrounds and cultures)

I read that his single semester was online. He spent a few months logging into blackboard, that’s it.

That seems likely given COVID. Lots of kids dropped out then, even ones who would have been successful otherwise. The strong ones got back on track. Many others didn't.

We are seeing the results of the seeds that were planted during Covid. Whatever content people took in when we are all locked in the house has now fruited into a lot of the intense beliefs and online behaviors we see now. We were all chronically online that year, and everyone didn’t come out the same on the other side.

That’s when Tyler and Lance started hacking into domestic and foreign govt agencies probably.

When were they hired by the foreign governments? Because there's literally zero connection between hacking into an agency's computer and being hired by them, usually.

They could have been hired after freshman year.

No they worked for the CIA or were independent. They weren’t assisting foreign governments. God…

Why would the CIA have hired them? That is also crazy talk. They don't seem very stable. Or discreet.

He is a brilliant hacker, he can hack into anything he wants.

But cyber operations is not big at CIA. It’s another agency.

Ok NSA whatever. He could have been an independent contractor.

You watch too many movies.

This! Your understanding of how cyber operations works, how contractors and the government works is pure fiction.

He could have been an independent contractor or hired by CIA/NSA. Why not? This is implausible?

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Anonymous wrote:I guess the legacy of Charlie Kirk will be "sure, disagree with me, but if you do you'll lose your job"

Celebrating an innocent man being murdered isn't just disagreeing with someone. It's disgusting and we should be doing better. These lunatics losing their jobs is a GOOD thing for society.

The pastor at Alfred Street Baptist wasn't celebrating his death at all. Yet according to a PP, he now has a target on his back.

According to a lot of people anyone that doesn't put Charlie Kirk on a pedestal is "celebrating his death". No, I don't care that he died and it certainly doesn't make me happy. But he was horrible. Unfortunately there are many more like him.

Well unless you put out a tik tok talking about how happy you are that he died, I wouldn't worry. The people who are losing their jobs are gleefully celebrating murder. I think we can all agree that murder is a tragedy that shouldn't be celebrated or laughed about.

People were showing happiness when the liberal Supreme Court justices died.

They were happy when George Floyd died.

And that is their right. Freedom of Speech.

Freedom of speech - sure. But don't get upset when acting like an evil nutcase gets you ostracized - socially and professionally.

This exact reasoning could be used to justify people’s feelings about Kirk.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess the legacy of Charlie Kirk will be "sure, disagree with me, but if you do you'll lose your job"

Celebrating an innocent man being murdered isn't just disagreeing with someone. It's disgusting and we should be doing better. These lunatics losing their jobs is a GOOD thing for society.

The pastor at Alfred Street Baptist wasn't celebrating his death at all. Yet according to a PP, he now has a target on his back.

According to a lot of people anyone that doesn't put Charlie Kirk on a pedestal is "celebrating his death". No, I don't care that he died and it certainly doesn't make me happy. But he was horrible. Unfortunately there are many more like him.

Well unless you put out a tik tok talking about how happy you are that he died, I wouldn't worry. The people who are losing their jobs are gleefully celebrating murder. I think we can all agree that murder is a tragedy that shouldn't be celebrated or laughed about.

People were showing happiness when the liberal Supreme Court justices died.

They were happy when George Floyd died.

And that is their right. Freedom of Speech.

Freedom of speech - sure. But don't get upset when acting like an evil nutcase gets you ostracized - socially and professionally.

Please stop doxxing everyone who doesn't act like Charlie Kirk was the second coming. You are explicitly promoting political violence. People are getting death threats. People who had literally nothing to do with Charlie Kirk's death and are not and never have celebrated it.

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We knew right wing extremism was a problem. But the party Charlie supported ignored it.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/years-ago-officials-rejected-warning-rise-wing-militias/story?id=82098720

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This is an odd takeaway. No one I know thinks he deserves to die. But there were other people who died that day, like those shot in Colorado, who we will mourn more.

There’s a whole website calling a database full of people “murderers” and most of them simply posted his views online.

You mean the website run by the gay trans pro-maga darling of the GOP?

https://www.advocate.com/politics/who-is-scott-presler

Do you think this is a gotcha? It's not. The fact that he's gay doesn't change the fact that MAGA is raring to have a witch hunt for people having a rational reaction to the death of someone who hated most Americans.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess the legacy of Charlie Kirk will be "sure, disagree with me, but if you do you'll lose your job"

Celebrating an innocent man being murdered isn't just disagreeing with someone. It's disgusting and we should be doing better. These lunatics losing their jobs is a GOOD thing for society.

The pastor at Alfred Street Baptist wasn't celebrating his death at all. Yet according to a PP, he now has a target on his back.

According to a lot of people anyone that doesn't put Charlie Kirk on a pedestal is "celebrating his death". No, I don't care that he died and it certainly doesn't make me happy. But he was horrible. Unfortunately there are many more like him.

like this Canadian journalist

https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2025/09/15/Dangerous-Targeting-Canadian-Journalist/Canadian journalist Rachel Gilmore took to social media to share insights based on years of reporting, writing that she was concerned some fans of Kirk on the far right who are “aching for more violence, could turn this into an even more radicalizing moment. Will they now believe their fears have been proven right and they have a right to ‘retaliate,’ no matter who was behind the actual shooting?”

Conservative MP Andrew Scheer swiftly reposted Gilmore’s comments, saying she was “twisted” and had “so much hate in her.” Other Canadian Conservatives also weighed in or reposted Scheer’s comment, while a screenshot of another post Gilmore made was circulated by right-wing influencers.

Hours later, Gilmore’s name was the first to appear on a website called “Expose Charlie’s Murderers,” part of an effort by right-wing figures to identify people they viewed as having celebrated Kirk’s killing. In many cases, MAGA supporters have called for those people to lose their jobs.

Gilmore then received death and rape threats, including threats that say, “We know where you live.”

As the U.S. tech magazine Wired reported, Gilmore’s initial analysis was accurate: in the hours following the shooting, high-profile figures in the MAGA movement, as well as far-right extremists, posted calls for war or civil war, to punish Democrats for “terrorism,” named “the left” as “the party of murder” and called to restart far-right militias.

This is the truly scary part. Ethical journalists are being silenced for doing their jobs.

Meh. It could be worse. They could get shot in the neck.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess the legacy of Charlie Kirk will be "sure, disagree with me, but if you do you'll lose your job"

Celebrating an innocent man being murdered isn't just disagreeing with someone. It's disgusting and we should be doing better. These lunatics losing their jobs is a GOOD thing for society.

The pastor at Alfred Street Baptist wasn't celebrating his death at all. Yet according to a PP, he now has a target on his back.

According to a lot of people anyone that doesn't put Charlie Kirk on a pedestal is "celebrating his death". No, I don't care that he died and it certainly doesn't make me happy. But he was horrible. Unfortunately there are many more like him.

like this Canadian journalist

https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2025/09/15/Dangerous-Targeting-Canadian-Journalist/Canadian journalist Rachel Gilmore took to social media to share insights based on years of reporting, writing that she was concerned some fans of Kirk on the far right who are “aching for more violence, could turn this into an even more radicalizing moment. Will they now believe their fears have been proven right and they have a right to ‘retaliate,’ no matter who was behind the actual shooting?”

Conservative MP Andrew Scheer swiftly reposted Gilmore’s comments, saying she was “twisted” and had “so much hate in her.” Other Canadian Conservatives also weighed in or reposted Scheer’s comment, while a screenshot of another post Gilmore made was circulated by right-wing influencers.

Hours later, Gilmore’s name was the first to appear on a website called “Expose Charlie’s Murderers,” part of an effort by right-wing figures to identify people they viewed as having celebrated Kirk’s killing. In many cases, MAGA supporters have called for those people to lose their jobs.

Gilmore then received death and rape threats, including threats that say, “We know where you live.”

As the U.S. tech magazine Wired reported, Gilmore’s initial analysis was accurate: in the hours following the shooting, high-profile figures in the MAGA movement, as well as far-right extremists, posted calls for war or civil war, to punish Democrats for “terrorism,” named “the left” as “the party of murder” and called to restart far-right militias.

This is the truly scary part. Ethical journalists are being silenced for doing their jobs.

Meh. It could be worse. They could get shot in the neck.

Freedom of speech for me but not for thee
- MAGA