demoralized in MCPS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where do they teach these jerks and to bully teachers or is it just past down

Maybe in troll school? You’ll find out when you finish your first year courses.

[Anonymous]

Principals are trolls who can't stand teachers doing the jobs that they did not have aptitude for. That is why they got out of teaching and resent great teachers. It's one hell of a popularity contest but quality education flew out the window long ago when teachers got their morale taken away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Principals are trolls who can't stand teachers doing the jobs that they did not have aptitude for. That is why they got out of teaching and resent great teachers. It's one hell of a popularity contest but quality education flew out the window long ago when teachers got their morale taken away.

If quality education ended long ago when all the good teachers were demoralized, who are these evil principals still targeting?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MCPS is done, people. Keep your eyes open.

Depressing, but after reading through this whole thread, it's hard to disagree with this assessment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPS is done, people. Keep your eyes open.

Depressing, but after reading through this whole thread, it's hard to disagree with this assessment.

I feel the opposite. Seems like things have been steadily improving.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPS is done, people. Keep your eyes open.

Depressing, but after reading through this whole thread, it's hard to disagree with this assessment.

I feel the opposite. Seems like things have been steadily improving.

Under what time frame? I'm looking at it from a ~20 year standpoint. Not saying it's all MCPS's fault, but it's tough for me to see the argument that we're in an upward trajectory, especially in terms of teacher morale.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPS is done, people. Keep your eyes open.

Depressing, but after reading through this whole thread, it's hard to disagree with this assessment.

I feel the opposite. Seems like things have been steadily improving.

Under what time frame? I'm looking at it from a ~20 year standpoint. Not saying it's all MCPS's fault, but it's tough for me to see the argument that we're in an upward trajectory, especially in terms of teacher morale.

I was looking at mainly the last 5 years and comparing that to my experiences at MCPS 30 years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPS is done, people. Keep your eyes open.

Depressing, but after reading through this whole thread, it's hard to disagree with this assessment.

I feel the opposite. Seems like things have been steadily improving.

Under what time frame? I'm looking at it from a ~20 year standpoint. Not saying it's all MCPS's fault, but it's tough for me to see the argument that we're in an upward trajectory, especially in terms of teacher morale.

same

over 20 years in the system and it's been a downward spiral, in academics/behavior and teacher morale (as a result of the deterioration)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPS is done, people. Keep your eyes open.

Depressing, but after reading through this whole thread, it's hard to disagree with this assessment.

I feel the opposite. Seems like things have been steadily improving.

Under what time frame? I'm looking at it from a ~20 year standpoint. Not saying it's all MCPS's fault, but it's tough for me to see the argument that we're in an upward trajectory, especially in terms of teacher morale.

I was looking at mainly the last 5 years and comparing that to my experiences at MCPS 30 years ago.

Just to be clear, you’re saying that you think things in MCPS are better now than 30 years ago? What specifically do you think is better now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPS is done, people. Keep your eyes open.

Depressing, but after reading through this whole thread, it's hard to disagree with this assessment.

I feel the opposite. Seems like things have been steadily improving.

Under what time frame? I'm looking at it from a ~20 year standpoint. Not saying it's all MCPS's fault, but it's tough for me to see the argument that we're in an upward trajectory, especially in terms of teacher morale.

I was looking at mainly the last 5 years and comparing that to my experiences at MCPS 30 years ago.

Just to be clear, you’re saying that you think things in MCPS are better now than 30 years ago? What specifically do you think is better now?

Most definitely! Just look at the SAT averages today people are doing better than ever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPS is done, people. Keep your eyes open.

Depressing, but after reading through this whole thread, it's hard to disagree with this assessment.

I feel the opposite. Seems like things have been steadily improving.

Under what time frame? I'm looking at it from a ~20 year standpoint. Not saying it's all MCPS's fault, but it's tough for me to see the argument that we're in an upward trajectory, especially in terms of teacher morale.

I was looking at mainly the last 5 years and comparing that to my experiences at MCPS 30 years ago.

Just to be clear, you’re saying that you think things in MCPS are better now than 30 years ago? What specifically do you think is better now?

Most definitely! Just look at the SAT averages today people are doing better than ever.

DP. There are certainly more opportunities to take advanced coursework and to prepare for future careers than there were 30 years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPS is done, people. Keep your eyes open.

Depressing, but after reading through this whole thread, it's hard to disagree with this assessment.

I feel the opposite. Seems like things have been steadily improving.

Under what time frame? I'm looking at it from a ~20 year standpoint. Not saying it's all MCPS's fault, but it's tough for me to see the argument that we're in an upward trajectory, especially in terms of teacher morale.

I was looking at mainly the last 5 years and comparing that to my experiences at MCPS 30 years ago.

Just to be clear, you’re saying that you think things in MCPS are better now than 30 years ago? What specifically do you think is better now?

Most definitely! Just look at the SAT averages today people are doing better than ever.

1. The gap is still wide.
2. You fail to acknowledge teacher attrition rates.
3. Regarding tests, you do realize that tests are normed each year.
4. There are some systems that want to remove the Praxis as a certification vehicle bc it limits the number of candidates.

Translation - dumbing down

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPS is done, people. Keep your eyes open.

Depressing, but after reading through this whole thread, it's hard to disagree with this assessment.

I feel the opposite. Seems like things have been steadily improving.

Under what time frame? I'm looking at it from a ~20 year standpoint. Not saying it's all MCPS's fault, but it's tough for me to see the argument that we're in an upward trajectory, especially in terms of teacher morale.

I was looking at mainly the last 5 years and comparing that to my experiences at MCPS 30 years ago.

Just to be clear, you’re saying that you think things in MCPS are better now than 30 years ago? What specifically do you think is better now?

Most definitely! Just look at the SAT averages today people are doing better than ever.

1. The gap is still wide.
2. You fail to acknowledge teacher attrition rates.
3. Regarding tests, you do realize that tests are normed each year.
4. There are some systems that want to remove the Praxis as a certification vehicle bc it limits the number of candidates.

Translation - dumbing down

The gap may be wide but that has as much to do with how immigration has changed things than anything. It isn't about the quality of teaching. As to the rest of this, 40 years ago most people stayed at the same job for life but today most people hop jobs. It isn't specific to MCPS. In the end things like SAT averages seem more meaningful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPS is done, people. Keep your eyes open.

Depressing, but after reading through this whole thread, it's hard to disagree with this assessment.

I feel the opposite. Seems like things have been steadily improving.

Under what time frame? I'm looking at it from a ~20 year standpoint. Not saying it's all MCPS's fault, but it's tough for me to see the argument that we're in an upward trajectory, especially in terms of teacher morale.

I was looking at mainly the last 5 years and comparing that to my experiences at MCPS 30 years ago.

Just to be clear, you’re saying that you think things in MCPS are better now than 30 years ago? What specifically do you think is better now?

Most definitely! Just look at the SAT averages today people are doing better than ever.

The SATs have been recentered several times in the last 30 years. This has raised the average scores by 200+ points, but the scores aren't directly comparable. If you're using today's SAT scores to "compare" MCPS against your idea of what it was like 30 years ago, subtract 200-250 points from today's scores for a fair comparison. So, the average SAT of 1119 in MCPS would be high 800s, low 900s using the same scale as 30 years ago. Do you still think people are doing better than ever?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPS is done, people. Keep your eyes open.

Depressing, but after reading through this whole thread, it's hard to disagree with this assessment.

I feel the opposite. Seems like things have been steadily improving.

Under what time frame? I'm looking at it from a ~20 year standpoint. Not saying it's all MCPS's fault, but it's tough for me to see the argument that we're in an upward trajectory, especially in terms of teacher morale.

I was looking at mainly the last 5 years and comparing that to my experiences at MCPS 30 years ago.

Just to be clear, you’re saying that you think things in MCPS are better now than 30 years ago? What specifically do you think is better now?

Most definitely! Just look at the SAT averages today people are doing better than ever.

1. The gap is still wide.
2. You fail to acknowledge teacher attrition rates.
3. Regarding tests, you do realize that tests are normed each year.
4. There are some systems that want to remove the Praxis as a certification vehicle bc it limits the number of candidates.

Translation - dumbing down

The gap may be wide but that has as much to do with how immigration has changed things than anything. It isn't about the quality of teaching. As to the rest of this, 40 years ago most people stayed at the same job for life but today most people hop jobs. It isn't specific to MCPS. In the end things like SAT averages seem more meaningful.

You're ignoring the real issue. WHY are teachers leaving? My colleague, 15 years in and brilliant, is leaving the profession. She is one of many. Energy and creativity get you so far in this profession. Once the experienced ones retire, there's no one left upon which to rely for support.

It is a dying profession, as not enough candidates are entering the field either. How do you respond to that, PP?