Government Shutdown - Sep 2025 Thread

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"IT'S HAPPENING!!!"

but our agency has money to keep working....

Is your agency allowed to use that money though? Our agency has enough for operations for 2.5 weeks, but OMB is telling us to shutdown on Oct 1 anyway.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DH and I are both ex Feds. We left our agencies this summer and relocated to the Midwest. I can 100% confirm that no one outside the DMV area cares what happens to Feds. No one came to support us earlier this year, and no one will come to the rescue now or in the future.

Because too much is deemed "essential". The social security checks need to stop going out, VA stops working, no SS cards, no passports. All bases shut down. It needs to be an actual threat to operations. Everything actually shut down except military in war zones and their support. Then people would care and pay attention to what the govt does.

Exactly. Congress would never let it get this far if SS checks stopped going out.

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Anonymous wrote:How does it work when you are essential but you are just a normally appropriated agency without dedicated funding (I’m at NIST).

If you are essential, you work, but your don't get paid. Usually there is backpay...not so sure about this time around. All bets are off.

If you are required to work, you get backpay. Otherwise it's wage theft. Even in today's world, the government cannot require you to work for no pay (outside the prison system).

If you aren't allowed to work, by law you are to be paid but that law could be changed or, I guess, ignored. It's a weaker position than if you were required to work during the shutdown.

Doesn’t the existing law say all workers get paid when it’s over? I guess maybe that wouldn’t apply to anyone rif’d (but they would get rid procedures) but any change in the law added to whatever bill finally gets past would be after the shutdown and not affect pay this time, right?

Even though the law says federal workers will get back pay, it would not be below the White House to ignore this law and direct OPM and the Treasury to not deposit paychecks.

This is what I think. I really don't think anyone non-essential is getting paid for this (possibly very long) shutdown. Awful. [Cue someone jumping in about what life is like in the private sector]

[Anonymous]

Last time they said Trump will just fire everyone so it's in the best interest to keep it open why is it different this time

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"IT'S HAPPENING!!!"

but our agency has money to keep working....

Is your agency allowed to use that money though? Our agency has enough for operations for 2.5 weeks, but OMB is telling us to shutdown on Oct 1 anyway.

This is what we heard for our agency as well. We have almost 2 weeks of leftover funds that we cannot spend to keep our agency open.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"IT'S HAPPENING!!!"

but our agency has money to keep working....

Is your agency allowed to use that money though? Our agency has enough for operations for 2.5 weeks, but OMB is telling us to shutdown on Oct 1 anyway.

This is what we heard for our agency as well. We have almost 2 weeks of leftover funds that we cannot spend to keep our agency open.

Different poster, we still haven't heard if OMB is granting our waiver. There's a giant event planned for tomorrow that they keep pushing. The optics will be quite bad if they go ahead with this event when everyone else is shut down.

[Anonymous]

Haven't heard zip from our agency. We too have carryover funding but I'm guessing they either haven't applied for a waiver or haven't gotten one yet, because I think otherwise they would have told us already. In the past they haven't waited until the last moment to tell us that we have carryover funding and will continue operating for a week or whatever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Haven't heard zip from our agency. We too have carryover funding but I'm guessing they either haven't applied for a waiver or haven't gotten one yet, because I think otherwise they would have told us already. In the past they haven't waited until the last moment to tell us that we have carryover funding and will continue operating for a week or whatever.

This is my agency too.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they asking for things that have nothing to do with funding the govt ? Aca covid subsidies are later and shouldn't be a topic of debate. Using this logic trump should have including adding 2 billion to defense spending, really odd.

I heard it’s partly because people need to know what they will be paying before they sign up, and they need to sign up this year before end of year.

Then have the debate next week or friday after passing the cr

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"IT'S HAPPENING!!!"

but our agency has money to keep working....

Is your agency allowed to use that money though? Our agency has enough for operations for 2.5 weeks, but OMB is telling us to shutdown on Oct 1 anyway.

Yes it's a go.

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Anonymous wrote:The shutdown is a great thing for DC home buyers. It means a rate cut more likely and may lower home prices in the DC area a bit.

Sellers not so good

This makes no sense- a rate cut will bring buyers/competition into the market and RAISE prices.

I think PP is suggesting that significant job losses will result in lower demand in the area and therefore lower prices. I think the PP is also assuming that a general softening of the labor market will result in the Fed cutting rates.

I think the PP is overestimating how many feds own homes at all, let alone own them in a situation where it would make sense to sell. And also underestimating the competition with cash buyers. Home prices will not fall significantly for normal people trying to buy family homes, especially in desirable areas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"IT'S HAPPENING!!!"

but our agency has money to keep working....

Is your agency allowed to use that money though? Our agency has enough for operations for 2.5 weeks, but OMB is telling us to shutdown on Oct 1 anyway.

DP. My office is fee funded and we've been told multiple times to report to work as usual and also led to believe we will get paid on time. Basically, operating as if nothing ever happened.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Last time they said Trump will just fire everyone so it's in the best interest to keep it open why is it different this time

Because everyone knows he’s just going to fire anyone he wants to fire anyway. They can do RIFs at any time. Doing one in the middle of a shutdown doesn’t change anything.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they asking for things that have nothing to do with funding the govt ? Aca covid subsidies are later and shouldn't be a topic of debate. Using this logic trump should have including adding 2 billion to defense spending, really odd.

I heard it’s partly because people need to know what they will be paying before they sign up, and they need to sign up this year before end of year.

Then have the debate next week or friday after passing the cr

The Dems want a guarantee of negotiations on that before they pass a CR. It's like the one thing that maybe they can get the other side to compromise on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"IT'S HAPPENING!!!"

but our agency has money to keep working....

Is your agency allowed to use that money though? Our agency has enough for operations for 2.5 weeks, but OMB is telling us to shutdown on Oct 1 anyway.

I am at the FCC and we have always been able to extend beyond the usual shut down date bc we are an independent agency and make our own money from regulatory fees and penalties. But today our agency leadership said we would NOT continue to work as we usually have. Carr is going to shut us down anyway. To prove a point. To be extra cruel.