Government Shutdown - Sep 2025 Thread

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seems like trump is engineering a shutdown so he has leverage over the generals, etc that would be stranded at midnight.

I stand corrected:
“according to government guidance, personnel must return home as soon as possible if a shutdown occurs while on work travel. Any travel costs incurred after the shutdown are reimbursable once spending resumes.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DOGE was extremely unpopular. Everyone has distanced from it. Musk is out, and no one talks about it anymore.

Even my maga parents thought doge was I'll done, even if they want cuts in the government.

So I think any slash and burn would be politically untenable. Not to say they won't do it

‘Was’? We still have Doge in our agency.

DOGE is still doing damage on our agency as well. It’s just not publicly noticed.

[Anonymous]

The shutdown is a great thing for DC home buyers. It means a rate cut more likely and may lower home prices in the DC area a bit.

Sellers not so good

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The mass layoffs are coming anyway, people.

The budget cuts in the Trump budget call for slashing the State Department down 84%!!!!!! And other departments are going to suffer as well. There is no way they can get there without firing tons of people.

That's if the budget passes.

The threat to laying off people during a shutdown is disingenuous. Trump and Vought plan on letting them go anyway.

Do you guys understand this?

The point of Democrats standing up to Trump and force a shutdown is to make him lay off workers without them.

Otherwise if they approve the budget, they are complicit in the mass layoff.

I really hope you are all understanding this. The DC region is screwed either way. We can either make political hay out of this or suffer for nothing.

Do you get it?

If they offer me a VERA I’ll leave immediately. Please just make the offer!!!!

It's bad out there, PP. The DC region cannot absorb all the feds who have already left the government. Plenty are desperately looking for work, and will get more desperate now that their VERA paychecks are ending. Some have already left the area.

It's about to get a whole lot harder to find a job here. Existing feds need to read the budget proposal from the White House, and carefully evaluate what their personal risk is.

there are zero shortage of jobs in the DC area. Just most people are not qualified for jobs. I dont see how 30 years at EPA applies to a job opening at Cap One for an AI expert to build advanced chat bots. It is a skills missmatch not a lack of jobs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems like trump is engineering a shutdown so he has leverage over the generals, etc that would be stranded at midnight.

I stand corrected:
“according to government guidance, personnel must return home as soon as possible if a shutdown occurs while on work travel. Any travel costs incurred after the shutdown are reimbursable once spending resumes.”

The meeting ends when Trump stops talking. I assume travel is paid if they get home by midnight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The shutdown is a great thing for DC home buyers. It means a rate cut more likely and may lower home prices in the DC area a bit.

Sellers not so good

This makes no sense- a rate cut will bring buyers/competition into the market and RAISE prices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The shutdown is a great thing for DC home buyers. It means a rate cut more likely and may lower home prices in the DC area a bit.

Sellers not so good

This makes no sense- a rate cut will bring buyers/competition into the market and RAISE prices.

I think PP is suggesting that significant job losses will result in lower demand in the area and therefore lower prices. I think the PP is also assuming that a general softening of the labor market will result in the Fed cutting rates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DH and I are both ex Feds. We left our agencies this summer and relocated to the Midwest. I can 100% confirm that no one outside the DMV area cares what happens to Feds. No one came to support us earlier this year, and no one will come to the rescue now or in the future.

No so. There are a handful of people in my midwestern states who have a decent sense of what the federal government does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The shutdown is a great thing for DC home buyers. It means a rate cut more likely and may lower home prices in the DC area a bit.

Sellers not so good

This makes no sense- a rate cut will bring buyers/competition into the market and RAISE prices.

DP. Right?

No, this shutdown is going to screw us all. DC area home values will go down because of stranded inventory no one is able to buy at current rates and prices. Major rate cuts are not going to happen unless we enter a significant nationwide recession, at which point the damage will already be done and the goal will be to stabilize the decline.

The only people who will benefit from any of this are the people who are sitting on piles of cash waiting for the market to crash so they can gobble everything up.

Wake up people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DH and I are both ex Feds. We left our agencies this summer and relocated to the Midwest. I can 100% confirm that no one outside the DMV area cares what happens to Feds. No one came to support us earlier this year, and no one will come to the rescue now or in the future.

Native midwesterner here and yup, no one cares and they dont want Fed jobs relocated there either because they don’t want to be part of the swamp. I have relatives who don’t even see the value in the NWS because they are convinced Accuweather could just use AI and make forecasts better and cheaper. I’ve given up on that one.

Even the democrats in Midwest don’t?

As a fed from California, can confirm that even the Californian democrats don't.

A lot of people have no idea what the government does. They think government = the DMV.
A lot of people are also, legitimately, very busy with their own lives and only vaguely aware of how national policy affects them.
And most people are very very bad at risk assessment and long term thinking, while so much government is about long term planning and risk reduction.

DP.

This is true. I was talking to someone who doesn’t know the difference between the FCC and the FAA last night. When their phones stop working, or another plane falls out of the sky, maybe they’ll care.

Remember that ~ 40% of eligible voters in this country, don’t vote.

the ONLY issue all voter care is tax cut. too bad democrats lose that battle by default.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DH and I are both ex Feds. We left our agencies this summer and relocated to the Midwest. I can 100% confirm that no one outside the DMV area cares what happens to Feds. No one came to support us earlier this year, and no one will come to the rescue now or in the future.

I'm a fed who moved out of DC a couple of years ago. Granted, this is a highly educated area, but folks where I live do know about what's going on and ask about it whenever they find out that I'm a fed. It doesn't feel as pervasive and immediate here, but people do care.

[Anonymous]

Why are they asking for things that have nothing to do with funding the govt ? Aca covid subsidies are later and shouldn't be a topic of debate. Using this logic trump should have including adding 2 billion to defense spending, really odd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DH and I are both ex Feds. We left our agencies this summer and relocated to the Midwest. I can 100% confirm that no one outside the DMV area cares what happens to Feds. No one came to support us earlier this year, and no one will come to the rescue now or in the future.

Because too much is deemed "essential". The social security checks need to stop going out, VA stops working, no SS cards, no passports. All bases shut down. It needs to be an actual threat to operations. Everything actually shut down except military in war zones and their support. Then people would care and pay attention to what the govt does.

[Anonymous]

"IT'S HAPPENING!!!"

but our agency has money to keep working....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are they asking for things that have nothing to do with funding the govt ? Aca covid subsidies are later and shouldn't be a topic of debate. Using this logic trump should have including adding 2 billion to defense spending, really odd.

I heard it’s partly because people need to know what they will be paying before they sign up, and they need to sign up this year before end of year.