
Considering their best girls play ECNL and Boys play DA...VPL Richmond teams are weak...heck..their ECNL teams are weak |
Not for the Development Acad- ... oh, this is about Super-Y and not the DA. You're right. Never mind. In any case, the person who said "no qualifying players" about Reston and Gunston can be easily refuted by checking the NCSL standings. Reston only has four girls teams in NCSL (U12, U13, U15, U20), but they're ALL D1 or D2. And Gunston has four D1 girls teams. Always amazing to see what kind of garbage people can just make up out of thin air. |
The delivery was so bad, I wrote that poster off as nothing but a blow-hard who gets their jollies by trashing those around them in a doomed effort to seem superior. If they were attempting to make the same points you are, they'd be well served to let you be the spokesperson for the movement. I agree with much of what you've said. I wish we had more of a true pyramid here, at least at the level that used to be in place where you'd play rec, then move up to NCSL or WAGS, then to a regional or national league perhaps with some ODP mixed in along the way (though I think ODP is part of the problem now in most of the areas around here). You could pretty easily figure out if the investment was worth it under that system and your path forward was clear. You also were pretty much guaranteed the right level of competition after the early development years too. I do think the DA has been a good addition on the boys' side, along with the introduction of the US Training Centers, and the id2 program. A lot more talented kids have access to free or affordable high level soccer since those programs started. I would be curious about whether there are stats on this, but I do actually think more boys are starting to go pro the last couple of years. Most of players on the U17 team currently in the qualifying rounds for the World Cup have or will be going pro when they are 18, and the same is true for a lot of 16-18 year olds at DA clubs around the country. And huge numbers of kids in this area (DA, ECNL, or otherwise) have either gotten significant scholarship dollars or have gotten admissions bumps sufficient to get them into top schools recently. For me, things look pretty good at that level (though I'm not claiming we are in FC Dallas or LA Galaxy territory just yet)--it's just the younger years that are more of a mess than ever. Also? There are way, way more than a handful of brilliant coaches and trainers around here who are deeply knowledgeable and committed to helping kids succeed. Anyone who claims otherwise hasn't done their due diligence. |
They're ginormous clubs. Metro area of 1.2 million people with two dominant clubs. It's not surprising to see their B teams beating the best of Chantilly, Annandale, Vienna and Haymarket. |
I think the clubs you mention besides Arlington are mid-sized clubs. I think of small clubs as those that don't have enough teams to move to a higher league like NCSL from ODSL. I think part of the reason they are not able to grow is because people automatically exclude them from their clubs to tryout at since they are only in ODSL so their talent goes elsewhere. There are many kids now playing at mid-to-large sized clubs that started at these smaller clubs but the access to better competition didn't allow the clubs to continue working with these players. I would think that some of these clubs currently in ODSL are Dynamite, Cougars, Mannassas FC, Real World FC. Just like these there were others that no longer exist today. These clubs end up playing against the lower level teams of the bigger clubs. I think all clubs in NCSL are considered mid-to-large sized. |
If it's' only 4 or so clubs, why wouldn't NCSL just allow them in? I'm sure they would benefit from a few extra competitive teams. |
Manassas SC is run by Karl and started their inaugural season this spring. I can assure he won't stay in ODSL for long. Dynamite is a club that takes in independent teams, as long as they play in 1st division they are getting the appropriate level of competition and can seek presidents and state cup to increase their standing. Most of the families at the last two clubs are made up of Latinos who, as one posted noted recently, probably didn't want to pay the high fees for small to large clubs to play in NCSL or NPL. RWFC came from Real Mundial, a rec league that is mostly Latinos. All of the teams are extremely competitive, they're looking for more competition and may find ODSL to be a tad too easy. I don't think they would do well at all in their respective age group on D1 or D2 NCSL. I actually don't know anything about Cougars, they could possibly be a team within their club that would do well in higher level of competition l, I would say show it by entering the president and state cup and going to deep in the tournament. Otherwise you're just assuming Latino based teams are naturally better than other teams that are more based geographically. Other than Manassas SC teams trained by Karl (very important differentiator) I would say none of the teams currently registered have what it takes to play competitively consistently in EDP, R1, etc. It's moot to discuss VPL or CCL cause they are a club based league. I would argue the travel involved for EDP or R1 would be discouraging and defeat the purpose for the parents of the kids who joined the teams within these clubs in the first place. |
Did anybody here go to their tryouts? Care to share? |
Pretty good turnouts with the expected variance of talent. |
Was it impressive enough to join? |
Re: ODSL-only clubs like Dynamite, Cougars, etc.
Dynamite tried to get into NCSL in 2015 but was rejected, mostly because of concerns over field availability. http://www.ncsl-soccer.com/bod-meetings/880484.html IFC ran into similar problems. http://www.ncsl-soccer.com/bod-meetings/887958.html http://www.ncsl-soccer.com/bod-meetings/904046.html Note that IFC has put teams in EDP. And they've done OK -- their U14s won their first five games rather handily. (Cugini's U18s, on the other hand, have a goal difference of -23 through three games. How/why are they in EDP?) |
That depends on your kids age. U8-U12 I think the training would be worth it. |
Man...come on. What's is this BS. Lol....I hope they buy out evergreen and kick FCV off the fields so they have to practices at FCV fusion fields...lol |
The cynic in me would say the emphasis on economically challenged communities was what killed the deal. Field availability and competitiveness was the official reason. I truly believe people aren't out to help other people, and the clubs maybe thought their teams might be challenged by a few of the DFC teams. |
What is your beef with FCV? |