Fed Government Shutdown 2025: non-political thread

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mike Johnson today "govenment not opening til January"

They are never reopening people it is a coup in real time.

Dems have a very easy way to block this “coup”.

[Anonymous]

Also historically a Democrat, and I have contacted Kaine, Warner, and Walkinshaw multiple times in support for the clean CR. They DO NOT CARE what we have to say. Warner and Kaine don’t even have staff answering the phones.

I don’t support shutting down the government ever, for any reason. That used to be such an accepted position that there was legislation introduced to end shutdowns by authorizing an automatic CR, so don’t come at me about how Democrats are obligated to support this one. No. I supported a clean CR then and I support a clean CR now.

[Anonymous]

keep it shut down.

Let's get to 2026 and then let the american people decide how they want to proceed since we don't have a parliamentary system where snap elections are held.

[Anonymous]

If you make a prediction as to when the government will reopen, please explain why, as predictions without an explanation are worthless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mike Johnson today "govenment not opening til January"

They are never reopening people it is a coup in real time.

Dems have a very easy way to block this “coup”.

?? Pass the bill? But it only funds till nov 21 anyways…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also historically a Democrat, and I have contacted Kaine, Warner, and Walkinshaw multiple times in support for the clean CR. They DO NOT CARE what we have to say. Warner and Kaine don’t even have staff answering the phones.

I don’t support shutting down the government ever, for any reason. That used to be such an accepted position that there was legislation introduced to end shutdowns by authorizing an automatic CR, so don’t come at me about how Democrats are obligated to support this one. No. I supported a clean CR then and I support a clean CR now.

We’re in a shutdown, that’s why they have minimal staff.

And if you can’t see the political difference between this and past shutdowns, you are being obtuse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Federal workers who are taking free food from food banks should donate to food banks when they finally get paid.

I'm sure many feds are still donating despite not getting a paycheck. My family is. We'll have to turn off our cash donations pretty soon, though.

Federal employees (both nationally and in DC) used to routinely be among the most generous donors to charity. It's less measurable now that people donate directly instead of using CFC for payroll deduction, but anecdotally a lot of feds are both cash donors and volunteers for multiple charity groups. Cutting those donations will be yet another effect of this shutdown and the administration generally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Federal workers who are taking free food from food banks should donate to food banks when they finally get paid.

I will happily donate in their place. That’s what being a good citizen means.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mike Johnson today "govenment not opening til January"

They are never reopening people it is a coup in real time.

Dems have a very easy way to block this “coup”.

?? Pass the bill? But it only funds till nov 21 anyways…

Well out of curiosity, if funding were to resume and then run back out nov21, would feds receive backpay plus one more paycheck or two before shutting back down?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a democrat and emailed Van Hollen and Alsobrooks asking them to vote to reopen the government.

It is not their job to do that.

You failed 5th grade???? Republicans have the Majority in both Houses. Dems don't have to do a dam thing.

And BS you are a Democrat.

Different democrat here. And whether you like it or not, it’s Dem no votes that have blocked opening the government at this point.

There are multiple ways to “open the government”. One way is for the Republicans — the majority party in both the House and the Senate — to vote to open it. Heck, the House hasn’t even met as a group to discuss it in weeks. The Republicans would like their plan to withhold food benefits from people who need them to force the Democrats to stop pushing for affordable healthcare. Starve or suffer. The Republican Party of “family values” is spending our tax dollars on breaks for the already wealthy. That’s not what most Americans want or value.

I’m sure you’re trying, but it’s obvious that you’re lying about your party affiliation. Details matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you make a prediction as to when the government will reopen, please explain why, as predictions without an explanation are worthless.

January, because that's when Johnson said he wants to reopen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you make a prediction as to when the government will reopen, please explain why, as predictions without an explanation are worthless.

January, because that's when Johnson said he wants to reopen.

Where was this stated?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a democrat and emailed Van Hollen and Alsobrooks asking them to vote to reopen the government.

It is not their job to do that.

You failed 5th grade???? Republicans have the Majority in both Houses. Dems don't have to do a dam thing.

And BS you are a Democrat.

Different democrat here. And whether you like it or not, it’s Dem no votes that have blocked opening the government at this point.

There are multiple ways to “open the government”. One way is for the Republicans — the majority party in both the House and the Senate — to vote to open it. Heck, the House hasn’t even met as a group to discuss it in weeks. The Republicans would like their plan to withhold food benefits from people who need them to force the Democrats to stop pushing for affordable healthcare. Starve or suffer. The Republican Party of “family values” is spending our tax dollars on breaks for the already wealthy. That’s not what most Americans want or value.

I’m sure you’re trying, but it’s obvious that you’re lying about your party affiliation. Details matter.

No, my party affiliation is stated accurately. I’m just not a hyper partisan like you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a democrat and emailed Van Hollen and Alsobrooks asking them to vote to reopen the government.

It is not their job to do that.

You failed 5th grade???? Republicans have the Majority in both Houses. Dems don't have to do a dam thing.

And BS you are a Democrat.

Different democrat here. And whether you like it or not, it’s Dem no votes that have blocked opening the government at this point.

There are multiple ways to “open the government”. One way is for the Republicans — the majority party in both the House and the Senate — to vote to open it. Heck, the House hasn’t even met as a group to discuss it in weeks. The Republicans would like their plan to withhold food benefits from people who need them to force the Democrats to stop pushing for affordable healthcare. Starve or suffer. The Republican Party of “family values” is spending our tax dollars on breaks for the already wealthy. That’s not what most Americans want or value.

I’m sure you’re trying, but it’s obvious that you’re lying about your party affiliation. Details matter.

No, my party affiliation is stated accurately. I’m just not a hyper partisan like you.

The reason 60 votes are needed is to encourage legislation that is palatable to both parties. Repubs refuse to put forward anything that isn't their way or the highway. Rs can re-open by ending the filibuster (because clearly they don't want to negotiate anyhow) or putting forward a bill that enough Dems will vote for. Those are their options.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you make a prediction as to when the government will reopen, please explain why, as predictions without an explanation are worthless.

Johnson says so this morning