Matty and Taylor

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She cried on stage in May playing the surprise song “How did it end” (which is such a beautiful and sad song). Does anyone else wonder if that is when she heard the news of the engagement? They have been engaged since May so that timeline would fit.

That song is clearly about Joe and exemplifies why this is all nonsense. Leave all of these people alone.

Taylor is still crying over Joe? Must be tough for Travis to watch her sing/cry over her Exes after almost a year together.

It’s sociopathic not to be sad about a 6 year relationship ending.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What a mess, at least in terms of PR - because Taylor only speaks about this stuff in her music, not in interviews, etc. We can’t know what really happened but the fact that she wrote an entire album about him and he got engaged immediately afterward - it’s going to land in an odd way for a minute or two. Hopefully people can forget the whole “Matty and Taylor” thing now. It doesn’t exist.

My gut tells me Travis is a PR relationship. They don’t make much sense and he’s milking the publicity. Who knows if the reports about him freaking out about marriage are true, but if they are then she should move on. I can see her with a world-changer but in a much quieter way - a businessman who is hugely philanthropic (like a Warren Buffet type) or a brilliant scientist or physician who does international work or something like that. Someone passionate but not a fame junkie like Travis seems to be.

Travis is trying to move into acting after football. I think he is using the relationship to raise his profile and sign deals in the entertainment industry.

Travis does seem like a fame junkie but I’m not sure what other type of public person would want to date her. Many wouldn’t want the attention from the media or her crazy fans and many also wouldn’t want negative songs about them being published after the break up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Given how much and how beautifully these two have written and sung about each other in the past decade, I believe their story is not over yet.

These posts are delusional, just like Taylor is. Their relationship was never serious; it was a short fling. It’s embarrassing for Taylor that she wrote songs portraying their fling as some sort of great romance only for him to get engaged to the next girl he dated a few months later.

Did she tell you personally how long they dated or were involved?

If no, then you don’t know how long they were involved.

They dated for a couple of months at most. I think their relationship was public for less than a month.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Given how much and how beautifully these two have written and sung about each other in the past decade, I believe their story is not over yet.

These posts are delusional, just like Taylor is. Their relationship was never serious; it was a short fling. It’s embarrassing for Taylor that she wrote songs portraying their fling as some sort of great romance only for him to get engaged to the next girl he dated a few months later.

Wasn’t she the happiest she’d ever been with Matty? That’s basically what she said on stage, in public. I think she left Joe for Matty believing it would be more than a fling. And I can understand how devastating it would be to blow apart your life for someone who leaves you a few weeks later.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Given how much and how beautifully these two have written and sung about each other in the past decade, I believe their story is not over yet.

These posts are delusional, just like Taylor is. Their relationship was never serious; it was a short fling. It’s embarrassing for Taylor that she wrote songs portraying their fling as some sort of great romance only for him to get engaged to the next girl he dated a few months later.

Wasn’t she the happiest she’d ever been with Matty? That’s basically what she said on stage, in public. I think she left Joe for Matty believing it would be more than a fling. And I can understand how devastating it would be to blow apart your life for someone who leaves you a few weeks later.

If you b are not the happiest you’ve ever been in the 1st 6 months of a relationship run fast.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What a mess, at least in terms of PR - because Taylor only speaks about this stuff in her music, not in interviews, etc. We can’t know what really happened but the fact that she wrote an entire album about him and he got engaged immediately afterward - it’s going to land in an odd way for a minute or two. Hopefully people can forget the whole “Matty and Taylor” thing now. It doesn’t exist.

My gut tells me Travis is a PR relationship. They don’t make much sense and he’s milking the publicity. Who knows if the reports about him freaking out about marriage are true, but if they are then she should move on. I can see her with a world-changer but in a much quieter way - a businessman who is hugely philanthropic (like a Warren Buffet type) or a brilliant scientist or physician who does international work or something like that. Someone passionate but not a fame junkie like Travis seems to be.

What reports?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Given how much and how beautifully these two have written and sung about each other in the past decade, I believe their story is not over yet.

These posts are delusional, just like Taylor is. Their relationship was never serious; it was a short fling. It’s embarrassing for Taylor that she wrote songs portraying their fling as some sort of great romance only for him to get engaged to the next girl he dated a few months later.

Wasn’t she the happiest she’d ever been with Matty? That’s basically what she said on stage, in public. I think she left Joe for Matty believing it would be more than a fling. And I can understand how devastating it would be to blow apart your life for someone who leaves you a few weeks later.

If you b are not the happiest you’ve ever been in the 1st 6 months of a relationship run fast.

Terrible advice. Toxic relationships often have a crazy high before things come crashing down.

This thread is nuts. People need to get a life instead of creating some narrative about taylor and a fling being some kind of Romeo and Juliet star crossed lovers.

Taylor is never going to be totally satisfied in a relationship. She is a creative, pensive type who chases the butterflies from the beginning of a relationship. She is a 34 year old operating like a 20 year old. at some point she’ll need to grow up and realize that she has to separate the short lived fantasies she loves storytelling about from the reality of a stable long term relationship. Or she’ll be perpetually in a revolving door of relationships, the quality of which will deteriorate quickly as she ages. All fine if she doesn’t want to settle down, but if she does, girl has got to sort through her issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Given how much and how beautifully these two have written and sung about each other in the past decade, I believe their story is not over yet.

These posts are delusional, just like Taylor is. Their relationship was never serious; it was a short fling. It’s embarrassing for Taylor that she wrote songs portraying their fling as some sort of great romance only for him to get engaged to the next girl he dated a few months later.

Wasn’t she the happiest she’d ever been with Matty? That’s basically what she said on stage, in public. I think she left Joe for Matty believing it would be more than a fling. And I can understand how devastating it would be to blow apart your life for someone who leaves you a few weeks later.

If you b are not the happiest you’ve ever been in the 1st 6 months of a relationship run fast.

Terrible advice. Toxic relationships often have a crazy high before things come crashing down.

This thread is nuts. People need to get a life instead of creating some narrative about taylor and a fling being some kind of Romeo and Juliet star crossed lovers.

Taylor is never going to be totally satisfied in a relationship. She is a creative, pensive type who chases the butterflies from the beginning of a relationship. She is a 34 year old operating like a 20 year old. at some point she’ll need to grow up and realize that she has to separate the short lived fantasies she loves storytelling about from the reality of a stable long term relationship. Or she’ll be perpetually in a revolving door of relationships, the quality of which will deteriorate quickly as she ages. All fine if she doesn’t want to settle down, but if she does, girl has got to sort through her issues.

Getting married at 34 requires maturity and compromises that are not the best material for songs. Her fans want her to live happily ever after with her one true love, while she actually needs to settle, and quickly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Given how much and how beautifully these two have written and sung about each other in the past decade, I believe their story is not over yet.

These posts are delusional, just like Taylor is. Their relationship was never serious; it was a short fling. It’s embarrassing for Taylor that she wrote songs portraying their fling as some sort of great romance only for him to get engaged to the next girl he dated a few months later.

Wasn’t she the happiest she’d ever been with Matty? That’s basically what she said on stage, in public. I think she left Joe for Matty believing it would be more than a fling. And I can understand how devastating it would be to blow apart your life for someone who leaves you a few weeks later.

If you b are not the happiest you’ve ever been in the 1st 6 months of a relationship run fast.

Terrible advice. Toxic relationships often have a crazy high before things come crashing down.

This thread is nuts. People need to get a life instead of creating some narrative about taylor and a fling being some kind of Romeo and Juliet star crossed lovers.

Taylor is never going to be totally satisfied in a relationship. She is a creative, pensive type who chases the butterflies from the beginning of a relationship. She is a 34 year old operating like a 20 year old. at some point she’ll need to grow up and realize that she has to separate the short lived fantasies she loves storytelling about from the reality of a stable long term relationship. Or she’ll be perpetually in a revolving door of relationships, the quality of which will deteriorate quickly as she ages. All fine if she doesn’t want to settle down, but if she does, girl has got to sort through her issues.

perhaps, but if you struggle at the very beginning of a relationship it's not going to work out later. good start doesn't guarantee anything but you certainly shouldn't be "working on your relationship" on day one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She cried on stage in May playing the surprise song “How did it end” (which is such a beautiful and sad song). Does anyone else wonder if that is when she heard the news of the engagement? They have been engaged since May so that timeline would fit.

That song is clearly about Joe and exemplifies why this is all nonsense. Leave all of these people alone.

Taylor is still crying over Joe? Must be tough for Travis to watch her sing/cry over her Exes after almost a year together.

It’s sociopathic not to be sad about a 6 year relationship ending.

Can anyone explain - why did she waste so much time with Joe?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She cried on stage in May playing the surprise song “How did it end” (which is such a beautiful and sad song). Does anyone else wonder if that is when she heard the news of the engagement? They have been engaged since May so that timeline would fit.

That song is clearly about Joe and exemplifies why this is all nonsense. Leave all of these people alone.

Taylor is still crying over Joe? Must be tough for Travis to watch her sing/cry over her Exes after almost a year together.

It’s sociopathic not to be sad about a 6 year relationship ending.

Can anyone explain - why did she waste so much time with Joe?

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She cried on stage in May playing the surprise song “How did it end” (which is such a beautiful and sad song). Does anyone else wonder if that is when she heard the news of the engagement? They have been engaged since May so that timeline would fit.

That song is clearly about Joe and exemplifies why this is all nonsense. Leave all of these people alone.

Taylor is still crying over Joe? Must be tough for Travis to watch her sing/cry over her Exes after almost a year together.

It’s sociopathic not to be sad about a 6 year relationship ending.

Can anyone explain - why did she waste so much time with Joe?

I obviously don't know them but she loved him but he suffers from severe depression. She stuck by him hoping it would resolve and eventually realized she couldn't fix him and he could not fix it and it was incompatible with being a life time partner raising a family.

It's actually very sad. She loves him deeply and none of her songs about him are "angry or mad", they are all very sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Given how much and how beautifully these two have written and sung about each other in the past decade, I believe their story is not over yet.

These posts are delusional, just like Taylor is. Their relationship was never serious; it was a short fling. It’s embarrassing for Taylor that she wrote songs portraying their fling as some sort of great romance only for him to get engaged to the next girl he dated a few months later.

Wasn’t she the happiest she’d ever been with Matty? That’s basically what she said on stage, in public. I think she left Joe for Matty believing it would be more than a fling. And I can understand how devastating it would be to blow apart your life for someone who leaves you a few weeks later.

If you b are not the happiest you’ve ever been in the 1st 6 months of a relationship run fast.

Terrible advice. Toxic relationships often have a crazy high before things come crashing down.

This thread is nuts. People need to get a life instead of creating some narrative about taylor and a fling being some kind of Romeo and Juliet star crossed lovers.

Taylor is never going to be totally satisfied in a relationship. She is a creative, pensive type who chases the butterflies from the beginning of a relationship. She is a 34 year old operating like a 20 year old. at some point she’ll need to grow up and realize that she has to separate the short lived fantasies she loves storytelling about from the reality of a stable long term relationship. Or she’ll be perpetually in a revolving door of relationships, the quality of which will deteriorate quickly as she ages. All fine if she doesn’t want to settle down, but if she does, girl has got to sort through her issues.

perhaps, but if you struggle at the very beginning of a relationship it's not going to work out later. good start doesn't guarantee anything but you certainly shouldn't be "working on your relationship" on day one.

this should be pinned on the relationship forum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She cried on stage in May playing the surprise song “How did it end” (which is such a beautiful and sad song). Does anyone else wonder if that is when she heard the news of the engagement? They have been engaged since May so that timeline would fit.

That song is clearly about Joe and exemplifies why this is all nonsense. Leave all of these people alone.

Taylor is still crying over Joe? Must be tough for Travis to watch her sing/cry over her Exes after almost a year together.

It’s sociopathic not to be sad about a 6 year relationship ending.

Can anyone explain - why did she waste so much time with Joe?

Why do you see it as wasted? They clearly loved each other and I am sure learned a lot about themselves in the relationship.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She cried on stage in May playing the surprise song “How did it end” (which is such a beautiful and sad song). Does anyone else wonder if that is when she heard the news of the engagement? They have been engaged since May so that timeline would fit.

That song is clearly about Joe and exemplifies why this is all nonsense. Leave all of these people alone.

Taylor is still crying over Joe? Must be tough for Travis to watch her sing/cry over her Exes after almost a year together.

It’s sociopathic not to be sad about a 6 year relationship ending.

Can anyone explain - why did she waste so much time with Joe?

I obviously don't know them but she loved him but he suffers from severe depression. She stuck by him hoping it would resolve and eventually realized she couldn't fix him and he could not fix it and it was incompatible with being a life time partner raising a family.

It's actually very sad. She loves him deeply and none of her songs about him are "angry or mad", they are all very sad.

Taylor was probably causing his depression. Look at Travis now as compared to a year ago.