Military observations on Ukraine invasion

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hypersonic weapons are not being used here. They are designed to go into orbit and circle in orbit around Earth for a while before being directed downward at a target. This makes them hard to track and predict compared to older ICBMs.

You’re wrong.

Russia has be using Iskandr-M hypersonic missiles since the first day of the war. The one used Saturday to destroy the military facility in western Ukraine was an air-launched variant previously unused outside of prototype testing.

It destroyed an underground weapons depot with $400 million dollars worth of US supplied weapons, including virtually all of the recently delivered switchblade drones, as well as most of the stingers and javelins. The missile attack also killed ~ 700 Ukrainians and foreign volunteers.

I hope it doesn't go the way of Afganistan..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hypersonic weapons are not being used here. They are designed to go into orbit and circle in orbit around Earth for a while before being directed downward at a target. This makes them hard to track and predict compared to older ICBMs.

You’re wrong.

Russia has be using Iskandr-M hypersonic missiles since the first day of the war. The one used Saturday to destroy the military facility in western Ukraine was an air-launched variant previously unused outside of prototype testing.

It destroyed an underground weapons depot with $400 million dollars worth of US supplied weapons, including virtually all of the recently delivered switchblade drones, as well as most of the stingers and javelins. The missile attack also killed ~ 700 Ukrainians and foreign volunteers.

I hope it doesn't go the way of Afganistan..

I do. The Soviets got run out of Afghanistan. And Russia has already lost more soldiers in Ukraine in 3 weeks than it lost in a decade in Afghanistan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hypersonic weapons are not being used here. They are designed to go into orbit and circle in orbit around Earth for a while before being directed downward at a target. This makes them hard to track and predict compared to older ICBMs.

You’re wrong.

Russia has be using Iskandr-M hypersonic missiles since the first day of the war. The one used Saturday to destroy the military facility in western Ukraine was an air-launched variant previously unused outside of prototype testing.

It destroyed an underground weapons depot with $400 million dollars worth of US supplied weapons, including virtually all of the recently delivered switchblade drones, as well as most of the stingers and javelins. The missile attack also killed ~ 700 Ukrainians and foreign volunteers.

Link?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hypersonic weapons are not being used here. They are designed to go into orbit and circle in orbit around Earth for a while before being directed downward at a target. This makes them hard to track and predict compared to older ICBMs.

You’re wrong.

Russia has be using Iskandr-M hypersonic missiles since the first day of the war. The one used Saturday to destroy the military facility in western Ukraine was an air-launched variant previously unused outside of prototype testing.

It destroyed an underground weapons depot with $400 million dollars worth of US supplied weapons, including virtually all of the recently delivered switchblade drones, as well as most of the stingers and javelins. The missile attack also killed ~ 700 Ukrainians and foreign volunteers.

Did it really destroy one? I thought that was debunked.

Russia seems to have poorly maintained trucks with bad tires that get stuck or fall apart. What do I know? But I am skeptical they did destroy a depot. They are going after easy targets like unarmed civilians.

[Anonymous]

Russia has lost 17,000 so far.

[Anonymous]

https://mobile.twitter.com/MrKovalenko/status/1505961677371621379

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hypersonic weapons are not being used here. They are designed to go into orbit and circle in orbit around Earth for a while before being directed downward at a target. This makes them hard to track and predict compared to older ICBMs.

You’re wrong.

Russia has be using Iskandr-M hypersonic missiles since the first day of the war. The one used Saturday to destroy the military facility in western Ukraine was an air-launched variant previously unused outside of prototype testing.

It destroyed an underground weapons depot with $400 million dollars worth of US supplied weapons, including virtually all of the recently delivered switchblade drones, as well as most of the stingers and javelins. The missile attack also killed ~ 700 Ukrainians and foreign volunteers.

Did it really destroy one? I thought that was debunked.

Russia seems to have poorly maintained trucks with bad tires that get stuck or fall apart. What do I know? But I am skeptical they did destroy a depot. They are going after easy targets like unarmed civilians.

Not sure. Reports say “ Russia claims” so who knows what’s true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hypersonic weapons are not being used here. They are designed to go into orbit and circle in orbit around Earth for a while before being directed downward at a target. This makes them hard to track and predict compared to older ICBMs.

You’re wrong.

Russia has be using Iskandr-M hypersonic missiles since the first day of the war. The one used Saturday to destroy the military facility in western Ukraine was an air-launched variant previously unused outside of prototype testing.

It destroyed an underground weapons depot with $400 million dollars worth of US supplied weapons, including virtually all of the recently delivered switchblade drones, as well as most of the stingers and javelins. The missile attack also killed ~ 700 Ukrainians and foreign volunteers.

Did it really destroy one? I thought that was debunked.

Russia seems to have poorly maintained trucks with bad tires that get stuck or fall apart. What do I know? But I am skeptical they did destroy a depot. They are going after easy targets like unarmed civilians.

Not sure. Reports say “ Russia claims” so who knows what’s true.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-uses-hypersonic-missiles-strike-ukraine-arms-depot-2022-03-19/

[Anonymous]

So The Irish Mirror reported this:

Russian President Vladimir Putin has been left humiliated after soldiers belonging to the Chechnyan military fled Ukraine.

The troops had been assisting the Russian army in its invasion of Ukraine as it enters its fourth week.

Chechen President Ramzan Kadyrov, who is known for his persecution of gay people, confirmed his support of ally Putin in a video where he was seen studying plans alongside a table surrounded by soldiers claiming to be in Hostomel, a village outside Kyiv, at an airfield captured by Russian forces in the first days of the war.

[...]

He added: "We will show you that Russian practice teaches warfare better than foreign theory and the recommendations of military advisers."

However, these claims have since come back to haunt the Chechen dictator as on February 26, just two days into the invasion, the Chechen National Guard units clashed with the Ukrainian army near Gostomel airport but were defeated.

Magomed Tushaev, believed to be Kadyrov's right hand and the leader of the 141st motorised regiment, was killed by Ukrainians that day.

The Security Service of Ukraine claims that "several hundred" Chechen soldiers were killed in the incident.

[...]

On Monday, the Security Service of Ukraine uploaded a post on social media, claiming that the hardcore Chechen soldiers' primary task, as ordered by senior Russian army officials, is to shoot dead every Russian soldier that tries to surrender.

The Ukrainian security intelligence officers claimed the Chechen army has suffered "numerous losses" and called them "TikTok troops" as they have posted footage on social media.

The Security Service said: "'Lice' Russian soldiers, 'fence squads' and numerous losses: how the Kadyrovites are actually fighting in Ukraine.

"Russian propaganda shapes their image as a formidable force capable of carrying out any of Putin's tasks. But in 26 days of war, Ukrainian soldiers have shattered this myth."

The Service added: "The Kadyrovites are now called 'TikTok troops' because of their love of stage commercials.

"Because during the war they 'distinguished themselves' only by video recordings and atrocities against the civilian population."

Adding: "The main task of the Kadyrovites is to 'clean up' and kill Russian soldiers fleeing the battlefield.

"That is, they perform the function of 'charge squads' and shoot at their own.

"Although they do not consider the Russians "theirs", they call them "lice" and are happy to kill them."

What a barbaric f***ing army. Worse, barbaric and feeble.

[Anonymous]

I don’t think the staggering Russian losses are going to change things, unfortunately. Putin’s most enthusiastic supporters are primarily older, more rural women. Their counterpart men are mostly dead by that age. Russia is deeply misandrist (and sexist), and has been living with a horrifically high male death rate for years. Killing off even more men in a nationalist massacre is not something that upsets Putin’s base, especially when a lot of the soldiers are poor. They don’t actually care that boys are dying.

I wish Russian society valued the lives of men more than it does, because that might change things.

[Anonymous]

So 10,000 killed maybe 3 times that wounded? Conservatively 40k out of 150k and the 150k is not all combat unites.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hypersonic weapons are not being used here. They are designed to go into orbit and circle in orbit around Earth for a while before being directed downward at a target. This makes them hard to track and predict compared to older ICBMs.

You’re wrong.

Russia has be using Iskandr-M hypersonic missiles since the first day of the war. The one used Saturday to destroy the military facility in western Ukraine was an air-launched variant previously unused outside of prototype testing.

It destroyed an underground weapons depot with $400 million dollars worth of US supplied weapons, including virtually all of the recently delivered switchblade drones, as well as most of the stingers and javelins. The missile attack also killed ~ 700 Ukrainians and foreign volunteers.

Did it really destroy one? I thought that was debunked.

Russia seems to have poorly maintained trucks with bad tires that get stuck or fall apart. What do I know? But I am skeptical they did destroy a depot. They are going after easy targets like unarmed civilians.

Not sure. Reports say “ Russia claims” so who knows what’s true.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-uses-hypersonic-missiles-strike-ukraine-arms-depot-2022-03-19/

"Reuters was not able to independently verify Konashenkov's statements."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Meh.....they sent in a bunch of teenagers and early 20s somethings (kids) conscripts with crappy supplies and weapons to serves as fresh meat to be turned into ground beef. They were used to soften up the Ukraine. Russia's advanced weaponry and elite divisions till haven't really been deployed yet. People shouldn't get confident at all that Russia has been 'struggling'. They are just getting warmed up, so I wouldn't extract a whole lot from the first week of combat.

That is simply not true.

The Russians went begging to China, with PGMs at the top of their list.

If you knew anything about the conflict, PP, you would know the Russians used up most of their stockpile of PGMs in Syria.

Lacking sufficient PGMs, they have resorted to using their short and medium-range ballistic missiles, such as the Iskander instead.

They even “tipped their hand” by revealing a previously unknown Iskander with up to 6 countermeasure decoys against wester anti-missile systems (we have those now, and can improve our own systems - thanks!).

There have been some conscripts- yes - but there were also paratroops, who the Ukrainians wiped out, along with 4 generals.

And Russia won’t count the 4,600 Vagner “contractors” (mercenaries who are ex-elite military) wiped out by Ukraine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So 10,000 killed maybe 3 times that wounded? Conservatively 40k out of 150k and the 150k is not all combat unites.

The actual number KIA is closer to 17,000 - including 4,600 Vagner contractors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think the staggering Russian losses are going to change things, unfortunately. Putin’s most enthusiastic supporters are primarily older, more rural women. Their counterpart men are mostly dead by that age. Russia is deeply misandrist (and sexist), and has been living with a horrifically high male death rate for years. Killing off even more men in a nationalist massacre is not something that upsets Putin’s base, especially when a lot of the soldiers are poor. They don’t actually care that boys are dying.

I wish Russian society valued the lives of men more than it does, because that might change things.

This. Russians literally value life (any, even their own citizens) about the same as the west does a house plant or favorite show. Losing a someone to them would impact them less than outlander being canceled.

Actually, Outlander would probably hurt more to the West than a family member to typical Russian.