Travel Soccer teams around NOVA let's discuss

[Anonymous]

You think anyone cares about teenage boys soccer?!! . . Ha, ha, go find a real sport for your son!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:more girls signing up for summer camps

Good point, and their Super Y program at $850/player

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:more girls signing up for summer camps

Good point, and their Super Y program at $850/player

- and their overpriced youth training clinics they offer at $90 for 2 hrs. they need to build the base of the pyramid and suck gunston and reston parents into thinking their kid is on some pathway to their DA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:more girls signing up for summer camps

Good point, and their Super Y program at $850/player

You mean pay an organization $1,000 with uniform to play soccer in the summer?! A sport that is virtually free if you happen to be around a public park. You could also just sign up for local training and do a summer league, would probably around $500 cheaper and you wouldn't be traveling 50+ miles for a league game on Wednesday night.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:more girls signing up for summer camps

Good point, and their Super Y program at $850/player

You mean pay an organization $1,000 with uniform to play soccer in the summer?! A sport that is virtually free if you happen to be around a public park. You could also just sign up for local training and do a summer league, would probably around $500 cheaper and you wouldn't be traveling 50+ miles for a league game on Wednesday night.

Summer is for individual skill training. We take a break from organized games/leagues. Pick up soccer at some of our local spots offers better competition and a chance to break free of being "coached". Too much coaching kills creativity, thinking and risk taking.

No way in hell would we do Super Y being pushed at our club.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:more girls signing up for summer camps

Good point, and their Super Y program at $850/player

You mean pay an organization $1,000 with uniform to play soccer in the summer?! A sport that is virtually free if you happen to be around a public park. You could also just sign up for local training and do a summer league, would probably around $500 cheaper and you wouldn't be traveling 50+ miles for a league game on Wednesday night.

Summer is for individual skill training. We take a break from organized games/leagues. Pick up soccer at some of our local spots offers better competition and a chance to break free of being "coached". Too much coaching kills creativity, thinking and risk taking.

No way in hell would we do Super Y being pushed at our club.

Year round travel games is part of the reason kids burn out on the sport by 14.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:more girls signing up for summer camps

Good point, and their Super Y program at $850/player

You mean pay an organization $1,000 with uniform to play soccer in the summer?! A sport that is virtually free if you happen to be around a public park. You could also just sign up for local training and do a summer league, would probably around $500 cheaper and you wouldn't be traveling 50+ miles for a league game on Wednesday night.

Summer is for individual skill training. We take a break from organized games/leagues. Pick up soccer at some of our local spots offers better competition and a chance to break free of being "coached". Too much coaching kills creativity, thinking and risk taking.

No way in hell would we do Super Y being pushed at our club.

Year round travel games is part of the reason kids burn out on the sport by 14.

Adults separating kids prior to puberty into the haves and have-not's while at the same time compressing the talent pool is why so many kids wash out (forced out). Its counter-productive and we are allowing diamonds to wash away because we though they were glass. Get me drift?

Youth sports has become a billion dollar industry. There are people you make a living from the money parents pay them. Don't EVER forget that you are the paying customer (consumer) and the Club is the business (Providing the service). Any business that doesn't take care of their customers (takes them for granted) and/or address the concerns of their customers should be treated accordingly. We do it everyday in real life. Then we become cowards when it comes to our kids coaches/Club.

Remember that next time a Club tells you what you should do (ie. Stay here. Its best for you) Who are they looking out for? Your kid or their bottom line?

[Anonymous]

It starts at U10 when most parents + kids who really are not interested are too inexperienced to say NO, but by U11 and U12 they figure it out and you see a lot more Super Y drop off. Rosters of 20+ for 7 versus 7 = time to put on a thinking cap and calculate how many total minutes in games there? will be, taking into account your own vacation plans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It starts at U10 when most parents + kids who really are not interested are too inexperienced to say NO, but by U11 and U12 they figure it out and you see a lot more Super Y drop off. Rosters of 20+ for 7 versus 7 = time to put on a thinking cap and calculate how many total minutes in games there? will be, taking into account your own vacation plans.

I figured it out at U9.

It really comes down to these competitive parents thinking if they buy all this shit from the Club, their kid will move up some arbitrary color system.

No thought is given to if it's good for the kid or the best for their development.

And, most importantly, if the kid wants to commit to more of the same all summer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It starts at U10 when most parents + kids who really are not interested are too inexperienced to say NO, but by U11 and U12 they figure it out and you see a lot more Super Y drop off. Rosters of 20+ for 7 versus 7 = time to put on a thinking cap and calculate how many total minutes in games there? will be, taking into account your own vacation plans.

I figured it out at U9.

It really comes down to these competitive parents thinking if they buy all this shit from the Club, their kid will move up some arbitrary color system.

No thought is given to if it's good for the kid or the best for their development.

And, most importantly, if the kid wants to commit to more of the same all summer.

Or, if they don't do it, they'll move down .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:more girls signing up for summer camps

Good point, and their Super Y program at $850/player

You mean pay an organization $1,000 with uniform to play soccer in the summer?! A sport that is virtually free if you happen to be around a public park. You could also just sign up for local training and do a summer league, would probably around $500 cheaper and you wouldn't be traveling 50+ miles for a league game on Wednesday night.

Summer is for individual skill training. We take a break from organized games/leagues. Pick up soccer at some of our local spots offers better competition and a chance to break free of being "coached". Too much coaching kills creativity, thinking and risk taking.

No way in hell would we do Super Y being pushed at our club.

Year round travel games is part of the reason kids burn out on the sport by 14.

Adults separating kids prior to puberty into the haves and have-not's while at the same time compressing the talent pool is why so many kids wash out (forced out). Its counter-productive and we are allowing diamonds to wash away because we though they were glass. Get me drift?

Youth sports has become a billion dollar industry. There are people you make a living from the money parents pay them. Don't EVER forget that you are the paying customer (consumer) and the Club is the business (Providing the service). Any business that doesn't take care of their customers (takes them for granted) and/or address the concerns of their customers should be treated accordingly. We do it everyday in real life. Then we become cowards when it comes to our kids coaches/Club.

Remember that next time a Club tells you what you should do (ie. Stay here. Its best for you) Who are they looking out for? Your kid or their bottom line?

+100

I have seen some of this glass emerge in the mid-teen years. You can't throw away kids or peg them as 'A' material too young. Development is fluid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:more girls signing up for summer camps

Good point, and their Super Y program at $850/player

You mean pay an organization $1,000 with uniform to play soccer in the summer?! A sport that is virtually free if you happen to be around a public park. You could also just sign up for local training and do a summer league, would probably around $500 cheaper and you wouldn't be traveling 50+ miles for a league game on Wednesday night.

Summer is for individual skill training. We take a break from organized games/leagues. Pick up soccer at some of our local spots offers better competition and a chance to break free of being "coached". Too much coaching kills creativity, thinking and risk taking.

No way in hell would we do Super Y being pushed at our club.

Year round travel games is part of the reason kids burn out on the sport by 14.

Adults separating kids prior to puberty into the haves and have-not's while at the same time compressing the talent pool is why so many kids wash out (forced out). Its counter-productive and we are allowing diamonds to wash away because we though they were glass. Get me drift?

Youth sports has become a billion dollar industry. There are people you make a living from the money parents pay them. Don't EVER forget that you are the paying customer (consumer) and the Club is the business (Providing the service). Any business that doesn't take care of their customers (takes them for granted) and/or address the concerns of their customers should be treated accordingly. We do it everyday in real life. Then we become cowards when it comes to our kids coaches/Club.

Remember that next time a Club tells you what you should do (ie. Stay here. Its best for you) Who are they looking out for? Your kid or their bottom line?

+100

I have seen some of this glass emerge in the mid-teen years. You can't throw away kids or peg them as 'A' material too young. Development is fluid.

The business keeps them down. If they start cutting the glass, they have too many unhappy customers.

Soccer went to shit when this began being treated as a business.

Cuts were brutal when I was a kid---nobody had a guaranteed spot year-to-year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:more girls signing up for summer camps

Good point, and their Super Y program at $850/player

You mean pay an organization $1,000 with uniform to play soccer in the summer?! A sport that is virtually free if you happen to be around a public park. You could also just sign up for local training and do a summer league, would probably around $500 cheaper and you wouldn't be traveling 50+ miles for a league game on Wednesday night.

Summer is for individual skill training. We take a break from organized games/leagues. Pick up soccer at some of our local spots offers better competition and a chance to break free of being "coached". Too much coaching kills creativity, thinking and risk taking.

No way in hell would we do Super Y being pushed at our club.

Year round travel games is part of the reason kids burn out on the sport by 14.

Adults separating kids prior to puberty into the haves and have-not's while at the same time compressing the talent pool is why so many kids wash out (forced out). Its counter-productive and we are allowing diamonds to wash away because we though they were glass. Get me drift?

Youth sports has become a billion dollar industry. There are people you make a living from the money parents pay them. Don't EVER forget that you are the paying customer (consumer) and the Club is the business (Providing the service). Any business that doesn't take care of their customers (takes them for granted) and/or address the concerns of their customers should be treated accordingly. We do it everyday in real life. Then we become cowards when it comes to our kids coaches/Club.

Remember that next time a Club tells you what you should do (ie. Stay here. Its best for you) Who are they looking out for? Your kid or their bottom line?

Unfortunately, it doesn't even make a dent in the Club. There are too many suckers that will gladly fill any vacant spot. This is why they get away with mediocrity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It starts at U10 when most parents + kids who really are not interested are too inexperienced to say NO, but by U11 and U12 they figure it out and you see a lot more Super Y drop off. Rosters of 20+ for 7 versus 7 = time to put on a thinking cap and calculate how many total minutes in games there? will be, taking into account your own vacation plans.

Roster size is realistic considering vacations and other summer distractions. My kids have played Super Y for a few seasons now and only in two games was the roster too large. In most instances there are actually roster shortages and lots of opportunities to guest play within the club.

I'm not saying this to sway anyones opinion just stating it as my overall experience. I'm not going to debate whether it is a money grab or not but the roster size is born out of necessity for game day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It starts at U10 when most parents + kids who really are not interested are too inexperienced to say NO, but by U11 and U12 they figure it out and you see a lot more Super Y drop off. Rosters of 20+ for 7 versus 7 = time to put on a thinking cap and calculate how many total minutes in games there? will be, taking into account your own vacation plans.

Roster size is realistic considering vacations and other summer distractions. My kids have played Super Y for a few seasons now and only in two games was the roster too large. In most instances there are actually roster shortages and lots of opportunities to guest play within the club.

I'm not saying this to sway anyones opinion just stating it as my overall experience. I'm not going to debate whether it is a money grab or not but the roster size is born out of necessity for game day.

And yet game day while published ahead of time doesn't always fall on the weekend. A kid doing a day camp would not be in a mood for a game. I guess you can say the parents knew what they signed up for in January, but not really. The summer camp dates aren't usually out by then. Your experience does conflict with the anecdotal stories I heard last summer when parents that signed up let me know they actually didn't play a couple games because either their team didn't show up or the other team didint. One of the weeks the team was scheduled for three games. While this doesn't refectory every team, the fact that it happened shows the level of commitment other playwrs/parents are giving it. Just seems like a league that is forcing itself on the widely spread teams. I would say a model of select tournaments would be most ideal. You get commitment out of the players and parents, they can be a little farther than usual and a family can make it part of their vacation plans. And most importantly you don't have to commit 6 months in advance.