NFL Kicker Harrison Butker’s unhinged commencement speech

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Anonymous wrote:It is hard to believe this thread has grown to 44 pages. In less than six days.

Especially when you consider the P Diddy thread is only 36 pages and was started all the way back in December.

I guess it's a good thing that Diddy only beat a woman and didn't tell her how great being a wife and mother is.

P Diddy isn't participating in our current cultural wars by doling out RW talking points cloaked as life advice.

Interesting. Because, neither is Butker.
He is simply praising and commending those who choose to have children and raise children - BOTH men and women.
I guess you are not a fan of childrearing.

Butker is a conservative Catholic publicly pushing extremely repressive views on gender and reproductive rights at a time when conservative Catholics are forcibly imposing their viewpoints on everyone else.

Publicly pushing his views? Like via his right to speak these things? Oh, the horror.

He has the right to speak these things and he also has the responsibility to listen to everyone who heard them. Of course he has freedom of speech but no one has freedom from the consequences of their speech.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is hard to believe this thread has grown to 44 pages. In less than six days.

Especially when you consider the P Diddy thread is only 36 pages and was started all the way back in December.

I guess it's a good thing that Diddy only beat a woman and didn't tell her how great being a wife and mother is.

P Diddy isn't participating in our current cultural wars by doling out RW talking points cloaked as life advice.

Interesting. Because, neither is Butker.
He is simply praising and commending those who choose to have children and raise children - BOTH men and women.
I guess you are not a fan of childrearing.

+1
I'd much rather hear from someone like Butker than women-beating Diddy. At least Butker clearly reveres women, in all their capacities.

He “reveres” women while saying they must be constantly pregnant? Ok.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is hard to believe this thread has grown to 44 pages. In less than six days.

Especially when you consider the P Diddy thread is only 36 pages and was started all the way back in December.

I guess it's a good thing that Diddy only beat a woman and didn't tell her how great being a wife and mother is.

P Diddy isn't participating in our current cultural wars by doling out RW talking points cloaked as life advice.

Interesting. Because, neither is Butker.
He is simply praising and commending those who choose to have children and raise children - BOTH men and women.
I guess you are not a fan of childrearing.

Butker is a conservative Catholic publicly pushing extremely repressive views on gender and reproductive rights at a time when conservative Catholics are forcibly imposing their viewpoints on everyone else.

Publicly pushing his views? Like via his right to speak these things? Oh, the horror.

He has the right to speak these things and he also has the responsibility to listen to everyone who heard them. Of course he has freedom of speech but no one has freedom from the consequences of their speech.

No, he actually doesn’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:BDE from Eddie Vedder right here. Take notes TradCath's and other cosplayers from the manosphere:

Oh no, not the Eddie Vedder call out! Butler must be so ashamed now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He has the right to his opinion. I can’t believe people are so upset about him but seem to care less about those who beat women and are guilty of rape and/or statutory rape of women.
Crazy priorities.

I don’t have to live my life by his values. I am a practicing Catholic and don’t agree with much of what he said. I have always worked FT. His views do not offend me but do they speak to me either.

I care about both of them.

And do you not k own about the #metoo movement?

He has the right to his opinion. We have the right to ours. That’s how it works.

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No one at Liberty University is doing anything correctly.

Their bedrooms are inspected while at class and they receive demerits if their beds are not made correctly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is hard to believe this thread has grown to 44 pages. In less than six days.

Especially when you consider the P Diddy thread is only 36 pages and was started all the way back in December.

I guess it's a good thing that Diddy only beat a woman and didn't tell her how great being a wife and mother is.

P Diddy isn't participating in our current cultural wars by doling out RW talking points cloaked as life advice.

Interesting. Because, neither is Butker.
He is simply praising and commending those who choose to have children and raise children - BOTH men and women.
I guess you are not a fan of childrearing.

I guess the butlicker kicker is not a fan of child rearing or family life since he has a job that pulls him away from family life August - February.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And remember ladies…
The crap he was spewing is all tied up with:

Abortion bans that endanger the life of the mother.
They are going after birth control.
Get on twitter and wake up.
All of this misogynistic crap has been bubbling up there for over a year.
It was over a year ago I started seeing occasional posts about “household voting” and “ repeal the 19th”
Now I see it all the time. The arguments aren’t good, but that’s not the point. They are making us argue to defend rights we thought were secure.
This guy isn’t a joke. He was asked to give a very public address.
They are pushing the conversation.

This.

Years ago, we’d all be laughing off this freakshow.

The issue in 2024 is that he’s voicing the vision of the GOP. He’s trying to normalize Project 2025 and the oppression of women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is hard to believe this thread has grown to 44 pages. In less than six days.

Especially when you consider the P Diddy thread is only 36 pages and was started all the way back in December.

I guess it's a good thing that Diddy only beat a woman and didn't tell her how great being a wife and mother is.

P Diddy isn't participating in our current cultural wars by doling out RW talking points cloaked as life advice.

Interesting. Because, neither is Butker.
He is simply praising and commending those who choose to have children and raise children - BOTH men and women.
I guess you are not a fan of childrearing.

I guess the butlicker kicker is not a fan of child rearing or family life since he has a job that pulls him away from family life August - February.

I guess you didn’t bother to listen:

To the gentlemen here today: Part of what plagues our society is this lie that has been told to you that men are not necessary in the home or in our communities. As men, we set the tone of the culture, and when that is absent, disorder, dysfunction, and chaos set in. This absence of men in the home is what plays a large role in the violence we see all around the nation. Other countries do not have nearly the same absentee father rates as we find here in the U.S., and a correlation could be made in their drastically lower violence rates, as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And remember ladies…
The crap he was spewing is all tied up with:

Abortion bans that endanger the life of the mother.
They are going after birth control.
Get on twitter and wake up.
All of this misogynistic crap has been bubbling up there for over a year.
It was over a year ago I started seeing occasional posts about “household voting” and “ repeal the 19th”
Now I see it all the time. The arguments aren’t good, but that’s not the point. They are making us argue to defend rights we thought were secure.
This guy isn’t a joke. He was asked to give a very public address.
They are pushing the conversation.

This.

Years ago, we’d all be laughing off this freakshow.

The issue in 2024 is that he’s voicing the vision of the GOP. He’s trying to normalize Project 2025 and the oppression of women.

Years ago, I don’t think people would have known or cared much about a commencement address to 400+ graduates at a college in Kansas, but the clickbait media economy needs content to sell ads.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is hard to believe this thread has grown to 44 pages. In less than six days.

Especially when you consider the P Diddy thread is only 36 pages and was started all the way back in December.

I guess it's a good thing that Diddy only beat a woman and didn't tell her how great being a wife and mother is.

P Diddy isn't participating in our current cultural wars by doling out RW talking points cloaked as life advice.

Interesting. Because, neither is Butker.
He is simply praising and commending those who choose to have children and raise children - BOTH men and women.
I guess you are not a fan of childrearing.

I guess the butlicker kicker is not a fan of child rearing or family life since he has a job that pulls him away from family life August - February.

I guess you didn’t bother to listen:

To the gentlemen here today: Part of what plagues our society is this lie that has been told to you that men are not necessary in the home or in our communities. As men, we set the tone of the culture, and when that is absent, disorder, dysfunction, and chaos set in. This absence of men in the home is what plays a large role in the violence we see all around the nation. Other countries do not have nearly the same absentee father rates as we find here in the U.S., and a correlation could be made in their drastically lower violence rates, as well.

Actually I have read the speech many times

This is the most alarming part, he is right, dads need to be more present. There should not be pressure on men to have jobs that take them away from their family for hours/weeks/months essentially leaving moms to raise their kids alone.

This is one reason often 2 parents working in a normal family is ideal.

Also, he says 'absent men" play a large role in violence....yet he is never home! He has chosen a career where he will never be with his kids on the weekends when families should come together. He will rarely coach his kids football team, or go to mass with them on Sunday morning, or get donuts after mass.

He is an absent father.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

No one at Liberty University is doing anything correctly.

Their bedrooms are inspected while at class and they receive demerits if their beds are not made correctly.

Wrong. That’s West Point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is hard to believe this thread has grown to 44 pages. In less than six days.

Especially when you consider the P Diddy thread is only 36 pages and was started all the way back in December.

I guess it's a good thing that Diddy only beat a woman and didn't tell her how great being a wife and mother is.

P Diddy isn't participating in our current cultural wars by doling out RW talking points cloaked as life advice.

Interesting. Because, neither is Butker.
He is simply praising and commending those who choose to have children and raise children - BOTH men and women.
I guess you are not a fan of childrearing.

I guess the butlicker kicker is not a fan of child rearing or family life since he has a job that pulls him away from family life August - February.

I guess you didn’t bother to listen:

To the gentlemen here today: Part of what plagues our society is this lie that has been told to you that men are not necessary in the home or in our communities. As men, we set the tone of the culture, and when that is absent, disorder, dysfunction, and chaos set in. This absence of men in the home is what plays a large role in the violence we see all around the nation. Other countries do not have nearly the same absentee father rates as we find here in the U.S., and a correlation could be made in their drastically lower violence rates, as well.

Actually I have read the speech many times

This is the most alarming part, he is right, dads need to be more present. There should not be pressure on men to have jobs that take them away from their family for hours/weeks/months essentially leaving moms to raise their kids alone.

This is one reason often 2 parents working in a normal family is ideal.

Also, he says 'absent men" play a large role in violence....yet he is never home! He has chosen a career where he will never be with his kids on the weekends when families should come together. He will rarely coach his kids football team, or go to mass with them on Sunday morning, or get donuts after mass.

He is an absent father.

So it’s never okay to be employed by the NFL or only if your spouse works?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is hard to believe this thread has grown to 44 pages. In less than six days.

Especially when you consider the P Diddy thread is only 36 pages and was started all the way back in December.

I guess it's a good thing that Diddy only beat a woman and didn't tell her how great being a wife and mother is.

P Diddy isn't participating in our current cultural wars by doling out RW talking points cloaked as life advice.

Interesting. Because, neither is Butker.
He is simply praising and commending those who choose to have children and raise children - BOTH men and women.
I guess you are not a fan of childrearing.

I guess the butlicker kicker is not a fan of child rearing or family life since he has a job that pulls him away from family life August - February.

I guess you didn’t bother to listen:

To the gentlemen here today: Part of what plagues our society is this lie that has been told to you that men are not necessary in the home or in our communities. As men, we set the tone of the culture, and when that is absent, disorder, dysfunction, and chaos set in. This absence of men in the home is what plays a large role in the violence we see all around the nation. Other countries do not have nearly the same absentee father rates as we find here in the U.S., and a correlation could be made in their drastically lower violence rates, as well.

Actually I have read the speech many times

This is the most alarming part, he is right, dads need to be more present. There should not be pressure on men to have jobs that take them away from their family for hours/weeks/months essentially leaving moms to raise their kids alone.

This is one reason often 2 parents working in a normal family is ideal.

Also, he says 'absent men" play a large role in violence....yet he is never home! He has chosen a career where he will never be with his kids on the weekends when families should come together. He will rarely coach his kids football team, or go to mass with them on Sunday morning, or get donuts after mass.

He is an absent father.

Agree. My husband was career military and an absent father. I didn’t work because I didn’t have a partner to share the childcare with. My kids aren’t violent but in hindsight I realize this was still a mistake. Two involved parents is best.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is hard to believe this thread has grown to 44 pages. In less than six days.

Especially when you consider the P Diddy thread is only 36 pages and was started all the way back in December.

I guess it's a good thing that Diddy only beat a woman and didn't tell her how great being a wife and mother is.

P Diddy isn't participating in our current cultural wars by doling out RW talking points cloaked as life advice.

Interesting. Because, neither is Butker.
He is simply praising and commending those who choose to have children and raise children - BOTH men and women.
I guess you are not a fan of childrearing.

I guess the butlicker kicker is not a fan of child rearing or family life since he has a job that pulls him away from family life August - February.

I guess you didn’t bother to listen:

To the gentlemen here today: Part of what plagues our society is this lie that has been told to you that men are not necessary in the home or in our communities. As men, we set the tone of the culture, and when that is absent, disorder, dysfunction, and chaos set in. This absence of men in the home is what plays a large role in the violence we see all around the nation. Other countries do not have nearly the same absentee father rates as we find here in the U.S., and a correlation could be made in their drastically lower violence rates, as well.

Actually I have read the speech many times

This is the most alarming part, he is right, dads need to be more present. There should not be pressure on men to have jobs that take them away from their family for hours/weeks/months essentially leaving moms to raise their kids alone.

This is one reason often 2 parents working in a normal family is ideal.

Also, he says 'absent men" play a large role in violence....yet he is never home! He has chosen a career where he will never be with his kids on the weekends when families should come together. He will rarely coach his kids football team, or go to mass with them on Sunday morning, or get donuts after mass.

He is an absent father.

So it’s never okay to be employed by the NFL or only if your spouse works?

It’s not ok to be employed by the NFL making millions while stating at a college graduation ceremony to the graduating women that a woman’s life starts when she gets married and has children, that the idea of having satisfaction from having a career is a diabolic lie and so on. Then he should practices what he preaches, go work as an engineer from 9 to 5, be home for dinner, take his kids out every weekend and so on.