NFL Kicker Harrison Butker’s unhinged commencement speech

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Anonymous wrote:I agree OP, but apparently people have to learn this lesson all over again.

What lesson?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good grief, OP.

His address is hardly unhinged. He is speaking to graduates of a Catholic College as a Catholic himself.
I understand you don't agree with his beliefs... and there are some things he said that I don't fully agree with, but he is speaking based on his religious beliefs. And, he didn't call the people who use IDF and contraception "disordered."
He said that these things along with abortion, euthanasia, gender ideology stem from the pervasiveness of disorder.
Big difference.

I doubt you listened to his entire address because had you listened - you would hear that he has some hard words for his religion and some of the leaders of the Catholic Church.

DP it’s pretty unhinged when you tell a group of accomplished young women who have just finished their degrees that never mind all that your only real accomplishment in life is being a wife and mother and homemaker. Yuck.

The right wing extremists on this thread have no idea how far gone they are, or how bubbled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good grief, OP.

His address is hardly unhinged. He is speaking to graduates of a Catholic College as a Catholic himself.
I understand you don't agree with his beliefs... and there are some things he said that I don't fully agree with, but he is speaking based on his religious beliefs. And, he didn't call the people who use IDF and contraception "disordered."
He said that these things along with abortion, euthanasia, gender ideology stem from the pervasiveness of disorder.
Big difference.

I doubt you listened to his entire address because had you listened - you would hear that he has some hard words for his religion and some of the leaders of the Catholic Church.

DP it’s pretty unhinged when you tell a group of accomplished young women who have just finished their degrees that never mind all that your only real accomplishment in life is being a wife and mother and homemaker. Yuck.

He was speaking at Benedictine College in Kansas. It is one of a handful of conservative Catholic colleges in the country. The kind of people and families that end up Benedictine question whether Notre Dame is actually Catholic or not. His message would be enthusiastically welcomed by an overwhelmingly majority of the people who were in attendance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good grief, OP.

His address is hardly unhinged. He is speaking to graduates of a Catholic College as a Catholic himself.
I understand you don't agree with his beliefs... and there are some things he said that I don't fully agree with, but he is speaking based on his religious beliefs. And, he didn't call the people who use IDF and contraception "disordered."
He said that these things along with abortion, euthanasia, gender ideology stem from the pervasiveness of disorder.
Big difference.

I doubt you listened to his entire address because had you listened - you would hear that he has some hard words for his religion and some of the leaders of the Catholic Church.

DP it’s pretty unhinged when you tell a group of accomplished young women who have just finished their degrees that never mind all that your only real accomplishment in life is being a wife and mother and homemaker. Yuck.

He was speaking at Benedictine College in Kansas. It is one of a handful of conservative Catholic colleges in the country. The kind of people and families that end up Benedictine question whether Notre Dame is actually Catholic or not. His message would be enthusiastically welcomed by an overwhelmingly majority of the people who were in attendance.

Dp- and those people are trying to usurp power, and undermine democracy. No biggie!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Petty but funny. His mom is a scientist and he grew up with wealth and affluence.

I think he must've been neglected as a child by his working mom for him to feel this way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good grief, OP.

His address is hardly unhinged. He is speaking to graduates of a Catholic College as a Catholic himself.
I understand you don't agree with his beliefs... and there are some things he said that I don't fully agree with, but he is speaking based on his religious beliefs. And, he didn't call the people who use IDF and contraception "disordered."
He said that these things along with abortion, euthanasia, gender ideology stem from the pervasiveness of disorder.
Big difference.

I doubt you listened to his entire address because had you listened - you would hear that he has some hard words for his religion and some of the leaders of the Catholic Church.

DP it’s pretty unhinged when you tell a group of accomplished young women who have just finished their degrees that never mind all that your only real accomplishment in life is being a wife and mother and homemaker. Yuck.

He was speaking at Benedictine College in Kansas. It is one of a handful of conservative Catholic colleges in the country. The kind of people and families that end up Benedictine question whether Notre Dame is actually Catholic or not. His message would be enthusiastically welcomed by an overwhelmingly majority of the people who were in attendance.

He and they are probably the type who pick and choose what they want to believe and read in the Bible. Otherwise he would've learned about the female prophets. I doubt they felt like their real lives began as soon as they got married and had kids.

[Anonymous]

I am Catholic and these views are not representative of the vast majority of Catholics in the US. There is a growing extremist fringe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good grief, OP.

His address is hardly unhinged. He is speaking to graduates of a Catholic College as a Catholic himself.
I understand you don't agree with his beliefs... and there are some things he said that I don't fully agree with, but he is speaking based on his religious beliefs. And, he didn't call the people who use IDF and contraception "disordered."
He said that these things along with abortion, euthanasia, gender ideology stem from the pervasiveness of disorder.
Big difference.

I doubt you listened to his entire address because had you listened - you would hear that he has some hard words for his religion and some of the leaders of the Catholic Church.

DP it’s pretty unhinged when you tell a group of accomplished young women who have just finished their degrees that never mind all that your only real accomplishment in life is being a wife and mother and homemaker. Yuck.

He was speaking at Benedictine College in Kansas. It is one of a handful of conservative Catholic colleges in the country. The kind of people and families that end up Benedictine question whether Notre Dame is actually Catholic or not. His message would be enthusiastically welcomed by an overwhelmingly majority of the people who were in attendance.

Dp- and those people are trying to usurp power, and undermine democracy. No biggie!

Not really. While that extreme does exist in the far right, the vast majority of Benedictine-type Catholics don’t advocate in favor of forceful overthrow of government.

But you’re changing the topic. His talk was not unhinged or inappropriate for his audience any more than an avowed Maoist Marxist speaking at Oberlin in unhinged or inappropriate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good grief, OP.

His address is hardly unhinged. He is speaking to graduates of a Catholic College as a Catholic himself.
I understand you don't agree with his beliefs... and there are some things he said that I don't fully agree with, but he is speaking based on his religious beliefs. And, he didn't call the people who use IDF and contraception "disordered."
He said that these things along with abortion, euthanasia, gender ideology stem from the pervasiveness of disorder.
Big difference.

I doubt you listened to his entire address because had you listened - you would hear that he has some hard words for his religion and some of the leaders of the Catholic Church.

DP it’s pretty unhinged when you tell a group of accomplished young women who have just finished their degrees that never mind all that your only real accomplishment in life is being a wife and mother and homemaker. Yuck.

He was speaking at Benedictine College in Kansas. It is one of a handful of conservative Catholic colleges in the country. The kind of people and families that end up Benedictine question whether Notre Dame is actually Catholic or not. His message would be enthusiastically welcomed by an overwhelmingly majority of the people who were in attendance.

He and they are probably the type who pick and choose what they want to believe and read in the Bible. Otherwise he would've learned about the female prophets. I doubt they felt like their real lives began as soon as they got married and had kids.

What is your point? That they don’t believe in their faith correctly? Okay. You showed them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am Catholic and these views are not representative of the vast majority of Catholics in the US. There is a growing extremist fringe.

This.

I’m also Catholic and not only are they not Catholic views they are against Jesus’s teachings.

[Anonymous]

So this whole thread is a bunch of whacky lefty extremists whining about people they perceive as extremists on the other side. Total clown show.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am Catholic and these views are not representative of the vast majority of Catholics in the US. There is a growing extremist fringe.

This.

I’m also Catholic and not only are they not Catholic views they are against Jesus’s teachings.

His views are not representative of most Catholics in this country.

His views are firmly within the teaching of Catholic Church.

His views are inline with or theologically understandable for most observant Catholics in this country. There isn’t a single bishop on the planet who would chastise him or correct him for the views he expressed in his speech.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am Catholic and these views are not representative of the vast majority of Catholics in the US. There is a growing extremist fringe.

This.

I’m also Catholic and not only are they not Catholic views they are against Jesus’s teachings.

His views are not representative of most Catholics in this country.

His views are firmly within the teaching of Catholic Church.

His views are inline with or theologically understandable for most observant Catholics in this country. There isn’t a single bishop on the planet who would chastise him or correct him for the views he expressed in his speech.

No. His views are not inline with Jesus’s teachings. Yes there are bishops who would disagree with him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So this whole thread is a bunch of whacky lefty extremists whining about people they perceive as extremists on the other side. Total clown show.

It’s wacky and extremist to reject the blanket argument that women’s primary goal in life is to marry, have kids, and be a homemaker?? Wow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am Catholic and these views are not representative of the vast majority of Catholics in the US. There is a growing extremist fringe.

This.

I’m also Catholic and not only are they not Catholic views they are against Jesus’s teachings.

His views are not representative of most Catholics in this country.

His views are firmly within the teaching of Catholic Church.

His views are inline with or theologically understandable for most observant Catholics in this country. There isn’t a single bishop on the planet who would chastise him or correct him for the views he expressed in his speech.

No. His views are not inline with Jesus’s teachings. Yes there are bishops who would disagree with him.

His views are inline with the teachings of the Catholic Church.

While some bishops might disagree with him, none would chastise or correct him because he is firmly within the teachings of the Catholic Church.

Where do you think he was out of line?