Magruder HS Shooting

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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think McKnight & BOE are happy to get people's mind off their poor decision making regarding the pandemic.

How is McKnight still in charge? How can we get her out? BOE should be out, too. They only care about their pockets, politics, and their own agenda's.

Of course Jawando wants SROs out, his kids are in private school.

I am exhausted with them taking our money and not listening to ANYTHING we have to say. All of them cover up for each other. BOE is no longer formed of "volunteers" who only get reimbursed for mileage. They each make 25k/yr now. It's not a lot of money but it is money taken away from our kids to pay people who simply do not care. BOE is a joke.

How can we make sure McKnight loses her job if BOE has her back. She is not fit for this job.

MCPS, our kids were not safe. Our teachers were not safe, but you come out patting yourself on the back while kids were peeing in bottles and make-shift toilets. This is the best you could do.

MCPS covers up rapes, weapons brought into the schools, and much much more. I know first hand. [/quote]

+1 The dysfunction by school administrators and the BOE has been on full display during January 2022. A 15 year old child is still is in critical condition on their watch. [/quote]

This stuff happened long before McKnight. We had those things many years ago in MCPS when some of us went.

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Obviously we're on our way to reinstatement of SROs in schools, and thank goodness for that. I'll never understand people who wanted to defund police, etc. I'm all for left-wing policies, but only when they actually make sense. If you want to address racism in law enforcement, you make make police academies MORE selective, and you lure in smarter candidates with more attractive pay (same method if you want to increase teaching standards).The dumb people will never react well in crisis situations regardless of the training they get! You can't staff such positions with the poorly-paid and the ones without critical thinking skills, and then act surprised that they're incompetent.

Good luck achieving this with the police academies in the hands of the existing police force.

+1 To keep this close to home, look at the caes of the officers caught on camera abusing a 5 year-old child inside an MCPS school last year. No accountability. No repercussions. Nothing but a blue wall protecting bad cops from ever seeing their actions have consequences.

As long as the entire structure of policing continues to protect abusive cops, none of the changes listed above will ever happen. Except giving them more money, because rewarding abusive cops is the American Way (tm).

MCPD is filled with very good officers. It’s a strong police department. Yes, those two officers were in the wrong. Guess what? A lot of MCPD agrees. Instead of falling back on old arguments, I recommend you get to know current policing. Fortunately, there are a couple avenues through which you can do that. Request a ride-along. Attend the citizens’ academy. Instead of falling back on preconceived notions, get to know the department. They are out in the community and sponsor regular events.

There are good and bad employees in any workplace. I would say the good outweigh the bad in MCPD. SROs are the best of the best. Our SRO had been in our school for over a decade. She interacted with students to give them a smile. She knew students by name - not because they were in trouble but because she would take more time than the principal to have conversations with the students.

Yeah. I don’t want my kid interacting with police unless it is mandatory. I can see that you don’t understand it. You might reflect on the fact that your refusal to understand it is part of why there are no SROs in schools now.

I don't want my kid to interact with shooters in school.

Right, it comes down to whether kids can form a positive relationship with one SRO who is kid-friendly to begin with, or have their schools flooded with hundreds of SWAT like police with long guns searching for their fellow perpetrator student.

PREVENTION IS SO MUCH BETTER.

I don’t accept these as our only two options.

What? You don’t accept prevention as an option? What could be preferaable to prevention ?

I can’t tell whether you are actually not too bright or whether you are just so hell-bent on arguing for the presence of police in schools that you can’t see any other alternatives.

I do not accept that school just as it is now, plus or minus SROs, are our only options for prevention.

Go away troll.

Violence has risen since SROs were removed. Alexandria has reinstated them. PG kept them. Putting them back removes one more variable re the increase in school violence. An SRO would have been much more likely to handle the situation on Friday appropriately.

Ha! I kind of wish I were trolling. Maybe you are, and the modal opinion in my kid’s community isn’t as boot-licking as you make it sound.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think McKnight & BOE are happy to get people's mind off their poor decision making regarding the pandemic.

How is McKnight still in charge? How can we get her out? BOE should be out, too. They only care about their pockets, politics, and their own agenda's.

Of course Jawando wants SROs out, his kids are in private school.

I am exhausted with them taking our money and not listening to ANYTHING we have to say. All of them cover up for each other. BOE is no longer formed of "volunteers" who only get reimbursed for mileage. They each make 25k/yr now. It's not a lot of money but it is money taken away from our kids to pay people who simply do not care. BOE is a joke.

How can we make sure McKnight loses her job if BOE has her back. She is not fit for this job.

MCPS, our kids were not safe. Our teachers were not safe, but you come out patting yourself on the back while kids were peeing in bottles and make-shift toilets. This is the best you could do.

MCPS covers up rapes, weapons brought into the schools, and much much more. I know first hand. [/quote]

+1 The dysfunction by school administrators and the BOE has been on full display during January 2022. A 15 year old child is still is in critical condition on their watch. [/quote]
elrich didn't help with his woke "we just need to hug them more" strategy. He took the SROs out. What did he do to replace the program?

[Anonymous]

Elrich, Jawando, the board and McKnight need to be given the boot. Actually include Hogan on the list too

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Elrich, Jawando, the board and McKnight need to be given the boot. Actually include Hogan on the list too

I mean okay but please, Jawando first. It’s enough that this MAY have been avoided with SRO in the school. Hope he has trouble sleeping at night after this (and sending his kids to private school in the morning.) Shame on the voters of this county for electing him.

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Obviously we're on our way to reinstatement of SROs in schools, and thank goodness for that. I'll never understand people who wanted to defund police, etc. I'm all for left-wing policies, but only when they actually make sense. If you want to address racism in law enforcement, you make make police academies MORE selective, and you lure in smarter candidates with more attractive pay (same method if you want to increase teaching standards).The dumb people will never react well in crisis situations regardless of the training they get! You can't staff such positions with the poorly-paid and the ones without critical thinking skills, and then act surprised that they're incompetent.

Good luck achieving this with the police academies in the hands of the existing police force.

+1 To keep this close to home, look at the caes of the officers caught on camera abusing a 5 year-old child inside an MCPS school last year. No accountability. No repercussions. Nothing but a blue wall protecting bad cops from ever seeing their actions have consequences.

As long as the entire structure of policing continues to protect abusive cops, none of the changes listed above will ever happen. Except giving them more money, because rewarding abusive cops is the American Way (tm).

MCPD is filled with very good officers. It’s a strong police department. Yes, those two officers were in the wrong. Guess what? A lot of MCPD agrees. Instead of falling back on old arguments, I recommend you get to know current policing. Fortunately, there are a couple avenues through which you can do that. Request a ride-along. Attend the citizens’ academy. Instead of falling back on preconceived notions, get to know the department. They are out in the community and sponsor regular events.

There are good and bad employees in any workplace. I would say the good outweigh the bad in MCPD. SROs are the best of the best. Our SRO had been in our school for over a decade. She interacted with students to give them a smile. She knew students by name - not because they were in trouble but because she would take more time than the principal to have conversations with the students.

Yeah. I don’t want my kid interacting with police unless it is mandatory. I can see that you don’t understand it. You might reflect on the fact that your refusal to understand it is part of why there are no SROs in schools now.

I don't want my kid to interact with shooters in school.

Right, it comes down to whether kids can form a positive relationship with one SRO who is kid-friendly to begin with, or have their schools flooded with hundreds of SWAT like police with long guns searching for their fellow perpetrator student.

PREVENTION IS SO MUCH BETTER.

I don’t accept these as our only two options.

What? You don’t accept prevention as an option? What could be preferaable to prevention ?

I can’t tell whether you are actually not too bright or whether you are just so hell-bent on arguing for the presence of police in schools that you can’t see any other alternatives.

I do not accept that school just as it is now, plus or minus SROs, are our only options for prevention.

Go away troll.

Violence has risen since SROs were removed. Alexandria has reinstated them. PG kept them. Putting them back removes one more variable re the increase in school violence. An SRO would have been much more likely to handle the situation on Friday appropriately.

Ha! I kind of wish I were trolling. Maybe you are, and the modal opinion in my kid’s community isn’t as boot-licking as you make it sound.

Your use of the term “boot-licking” does nothing other than weaken your argument. People can see the value of police without worshiping them as your ridiculous term suggests. There’s a wide range between extreme hatred of police, which seems to be on display from a few posters, and extreme adoration. I believe most logical people fall somewhere in the middle; they can see the value of good policing and would like that in their communities.

[Anonymous]

Wait.. Jawando lives in Bethesda, sends his kids to private school, but he thinks he knows what's best for a large public? GTFO.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know where or how severely the student was shot? Hoping for speedy and full recovery

It was severe, in the bathroom, child had major surgery last night and is recovering.

Sadly, WTOP is reporting the student's condition is worsening and he is fighting for his life. Thoughts and prayers are with him and his family.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know where or how severely the student was shot? Hoping for speedy and full recovery

It was severe, in the bathroom, child had major surgery last night and is recovering.

Sadly, WTOP is reporting the student's condition is worsening and he is fighting for his life. Thoughts and prayers are with him and his family.

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[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think McKnight & BOE are happy to get people's mind off their poor decision making regarding the pandemic.

How is McKnight still in charge? How can we get her out? BOE should be out, too. They only care about their pockets, politics, and their own agenda's.

Of course Jawando wants SROs out, his kids are in private school.

I am exhausted with them taking our money and not listening to ANYTHING we have to say. All of them cover up for each other. BOE is no longer formed of "volunteers" who only get reimbursed for mileage. They each make 25k/yr now. It's not a lot of money but it is money taken away from our kids to pay people who simply do not care. BOE is a joke.

How can we make sure McKnight loses her job if BOE has her back. She is not fit for this job.

MCPS, our kids were not safe. Our teachers were not safe, but you come out patting yourself on the back while kids were peeing in bottles and make-shift toilets. This is the best you could do.

MCPS covers up rapes, weapons brought into the schools, and much much more. I know first hand. [/quote]

+1 The dysfunction by school administrators and the BOE has been on full display during January 2022. A 15 year old child is still is in critical condition on their watch. [/quote]

This stuff happened long before McKnight. We had those things many years ago in MCPS when some of us went.[/quote]

You make a good point about cover ups. At least with SROs inside there were outside agency eyes on what was going on. What is the accountability mechanism for ensuring schools are reporting crimes?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Elrich, Jawando, the board and McKnight need to be given the boot. Actually include Hogan on the list too

I mean okay but please, Jawando first. It’s enough that this MAY have been avoided with SRO in the school. Hope he has trouble sleeping at night after this (and sending his kids to private school in the morning.) Shame on the voters of this county for electing him.

Yup. Somethings not right there

and he hangs out with a convicted drug trafficker (miskiri). Very very weird.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think McKnight & BOE are happy to get people's mind off their poor decision making regarding the pandemic.

How is McKnight still in charge? How can we get her out? BOE should be out, too. They only care about their pockets, politics, and their own agenda's.

Of course Jawando wants SROs out, his kids are in private school.

I am exhausted with them taking our money and not listening to ANYTHING we have to say. All of them cover up for each other. BOE is no longer formed of "volunteers" who only get reimbursed for mileage. They each make 25k/yr now. It's not a lot of money but it is money taken away from our kids to pay people who simply do not care. BOE is a joke.

How can we make sure McKnight loses her job if BOE has her back. She is not fit for this job.

MCPS, our kids were not safe. Our teachers were not safe, but you come out patting yourself on the back while kids were peeing in bottles and make-shift toilets. This is the best you could do.

MCPS covers up rapes, weapons brought into the schools, and much much more. I know first hand. [/quote]

+1 The dysfunction by school administrators and the BOE has been on full display during January 2022. A 15 year old child is still is in critical condition on their watch. [/quote]

This stuff happened long before McKnight. We had those things many years ago in MCPS when some of us went.[/quote]

You make a good point about cover ups. At least with SROs inside there were outside agency eyes on what was going on. What is the accountability mechanism for ensuring schools are reporting crimes?[/quote]

This is why we need parents volunteering in schools and parents need to not be intimidated by MCPS/Principals/staff and report incidents themselves.

It really isn't anything new but its getting more serious now and something needs to be done. She has had 1/2 a school year to work on some of this and nothing has been put in place nor even suggestions of something to put in place to keep our kids and staff safe. We've been pretty lucky but our luck has run out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wait.. Jawando lives in Bethesda, sends his kids to private school, but he thinks he knows what's best for a large public? GTFO.

I think he moved out to Olney or further out but his kids are in private school. He lives a very comfortable life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wait.. Jawando lives in Bethesda, sends his kids to private school, but he thinks he knows what's best for a large public? GTFO.

I think he moved out to Olney or further out but his kids are in private school. He lives a very comfortable life.

No problem that he lives comfortable life. It is the the making decisions about the safety of public school kids stains that the advice of public school principals while not sending his kids there. Well, we voted him in

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wait.. Jawando lives in Bethesda, sends his kids to private school, but he thinks he knows what's best for a large public? GTFO.

I think he moved out to Olney or further out but his kids are in private school. He lives a very comfortable life.

He’s out here in Olney? That’s the first I’ve heard of that.