Wuhan virus (coronavirus) arrives in the USA

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Anonymous wrote:I believe China's numbers. And the world owes them a huge, gloved, handshake out of gratitude. They acted ferociously and it's working.


After lying for the first three weeks
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So they knew about the nursing home situation, that’s why the quick press conference.
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Anonymous wrote:You all need to start taking this seriously...


+1

Too many cavalier about the entire thing. I’m not a panicker/prepper and I have a PhD in Immunology/microbiology...and I am concerned.



+1 Too many drinking the "risk is low" Kool-aid. Just because it's the US? And we haven't tested? Suppose we test everyone with the symptoms of the high schooler who had it. Might see a big in cases if we did.


I have been following this closely since around January 20 and never bought the "just a flu" thesis. I agree we probably have a fair number of people with the disease who could have been caught had a lot of tests been freely available.

However, I do buy the "risk is low" Kool-Aid for any one individual. Percentage of the population infected even in Wuhan is relatively low, and the vast majority have cases that they can ride out at home.

I am most concerned about medical facilities becoming overwhelmed so death rates soar. I do not believe, and have never believed, that even if 100% of the population washed their hands 20 times a day we could stop the spread.

Our best hope is to prevent high peaks in serious cases our hospitals have insufficient resources to handle. To that end I would support stricter quarantine measures than I think most Americans would accept.


In Wuhan the death rate is 5%. That’s 1 in 20. That is not low. It’s not Ebola high but let’s not minimize what it means to say 1 in every 20 people you know could die in that scenario.

I agree with those talking about HDHP’s. People have been talked into them as a retirement savings vehicle and have $10,000 deductibles. Generally though, this outbreak has the potential to break the health insurance sector.


I wouldn’t rely on the death rate in Wuhan. Too many unknowns. Deadlier than the flu, but I wouldn’t cite specific #s as facts yet for the US/worldwide.


It could be worse, Wuhan ran out of equipment to give oxygen. There are videos of bodies in the streets before they started the quarantined. They were sending deathly ill people home.
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The fact that 15-20% require hospital care (a number that was reiterated today at the WH news conference) is not good. This is why you can't let the virus get out of control because it will quickly overwhelm the health care system.
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Anonymous wrote:Quarantine does not mean no one leaves their home! How about telling all workers if they can work remote, to do so. And let’s implement remote learning for Middle and High Schools. Even that will help slow this down!

It doesn’t have to be all or nothing to make a big impact.


Feds have telework pandemic contingency. That's where we're headed


But considering half of us have kids, telework doesn’t work


Start working with your agency to allow telework with kids at home as part of the contingency planning.
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Anonymous wrote:I believe China's numbers. And the world owes them a huge, gloved, handshake out of gratitude. They acted ferociously and it's working.


After lying for the first three weeks


They did the best they could with a novel virus. Once they realized what they were dealing with they responded with vigor. I applaud them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I believe China's numbers. And the world owes them a huge, gloved, handshake out of gratitude. They acted ferociously and it's working.


After lying for the first three weeks


They did the best they could with a novel virus. Once they realized what they were dealing with they responded with vigor. I applaud them.


The numbers out of Wuhan are wrong. Why congratulate them?
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Anonymous wrote:Quarantine does not mean no one leaves their home! How about telling all workers if they can work remote, to do so. And let’s implement remote learning for Middle and High Schools. Even that will help slow this down!

It doesn’t have to be all or nothing to make a big impact.


Feds have telework pandemic contingency. That's where we're headed


But considering half of us have kids, telework doesn’t work


Yeah well, if we reach that point we're in really, really and shape. So for whatever paper pushing fed job, Iwould hope agencies would relax the constraints on telework.
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Anonymous wrote:Quarantine does not mean no one leaves their home! How about telling all workers if they can work remote, to do so. And let’s implement remote learning for Middle and High Schools. Even that will help slow this down!

It doesn’t have to be all or nothing to make a big impact.


Feds have telework pandemic contingency. That's where we're headed


But considering half of us have kids, telework doesn’t work


Yeah well, if we reach that point we're in really, really and shape. So for whatever paper pushing fed job, Iwould hope agencies would relax the constraints on telework.


^ bad
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I believe China's numbers. And the world owes them a huge, gloved, handshake out of gratitude. They acted ferociously and it's working.


After lying for the first three weeks


They did the best they could with a novel virus. Once they realized what they were dealing with they responded with vigor. I applaud them.


The numbers out of Wuhan are wrong. Why congratulate them?


The WHO has applauded them. I, too, am clapping.
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Anonymous wrote:People need to take responsibility for staying healthy.

I’m continually shocked at how many are so sloppy about hand washing.


With people hoarding hand sanitizer, it will only make the situation worse.


And going out in public when they are sick...


Exactly. Sick people MUST stay home,
unless they’re going to see a doctor.

Basic common sense, people.



Now is a great time for anyone not working and who is eligible to apply to substitute teach. Teachers, myself included, are often the worst for going into work if we possibly can because there isn’t anyone to cover our classes with the sub shortage. What happens is classes are split up, students go and anywhere there are available seats in other rooms and listen to a different teacher. The subject or grade may not be the same. We all try to cover each other in even more crowded rooms when someone calls in and a sub doesn’t pick up the job. That means there are rooms with lots of kids and you know a third of the class is coughing and has running noses on any given day.


Nope. Not setting myself up for that kind of lawsuit.
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Anonymous wrote:There's an outbreak at a nursing home (Life Care) in Washington state. Info from the King County Health Dept:

Facility has about 108 residents/180 staff. Approx 27 residents and 25 staff have symptoms. Two confirmed (one health worker and one resident).
Health care worker in 40s with no history of travel. Another a woman in her 70s who is a nursing home resident.

https://twitter.com/sherifink/status/1233851501682069504?s=20


This is the nursing home.

https://lcca.com/locations/wa/kirkland/

This is very bad news, especially since all the patients are seniors.

One is reminded of the long-term psychiatric facility in Daegu where 98% of the residents became infected. From the description, it appeared most were older, likely Alzheimer and dementia patients.


The "she had not history of travel" comments are interesting. I'm going to guess that someone very close to her did.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I believe China's numbers. And the world owes them a huge, gloved, handshake out of gratitude. They acted ferociously and it's working.


After lying for the first three weeks


They did the best they could with a novel virus. Once they realized what they were dealing with they responded with vigor. I applaud them.


The numbers out of Wuhan are wrong. Why congratulate them?


The WHO has applauded them. I, too, am clapping.


+1
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's an outbreak at a nursing home (Life Care) in Washington state. Info from the King County Health Dept:

Facility has about 108 residents/180 staff. Approx 27 residents and 25 staff have symptoms. Two confirmed (one health worker and one resident).
Health care worker in 40s with no history of travel. Another a woman in her 70s who is a nursing home resident.

https://twitter.com/sherifink/status/1233851501682069504?s=20


This is the nursing home.

https://lcca.com/locations/wa/kirkland/

This is very bad news, especially since all the patients are seniors.

One is reminded of the long-term psychiatric facility in Daegu where 98% of the residents became infected. From the description, it appeared most were older, likely Alzheimer and dementia patients.


The "she had not history of travel" comments are interesting. I'm going to guess that someone very close to her did.


That's what they are saying to indicate that the person caught the virus in the community.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's an outbreak at a nursing home (Life Care) in Washington state. Info from the King County Health Dept:

Facility has about 108 residents/180 staff. Approx 27 residents and 25 staff have symptoms. Two confirmed (one health worker and one resident).
Health care worker in 40s with no history of travel. Another a woman in her 70s who is a nursing home resident.

https://twitter.com/sherifink/status/1233851501682069504?s=20


This is the nursing home.

https://lcca.com/locations/wa/kirkland/

This is very bad news, especially since all the patients are seniors.

One is reminded of the long-term psychiatric facility in Daegu where 98% of the residents became infected. From the description, it appeared most were older, likely Alzheimer and dementia patients.


The "she had not history of travel" comments are interesting. I'm going to guess that someone very close to her did.


Or someone she doesn’t know but came in contact with. Or touched the same surface as.
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