NYT article on LCPS high school re: racism

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't read the past 46 pages so not sure if this has been brought up.

The phrase uttered was the lyrics of a song.


Which song? It doesn’t matter. Don’t say the n word is not a difficult life rule.
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Anonymous wrote:Also he didn’t cause harm. Her actions did.


You have that exactly opposite.

Please. If she didn’t throw the n word out there none of this would have happened. Again, whites want to live in a world for themselves full of do-overs while denying others the same. Systematic racism at its best. White woman’s tears and the knights in white shining armor come out to defend her honor (or, in reality, defend her privilege).


You will continue to lose this argument badly, because you are just spouting an arsenal of cliches - shame on you, though, for leaving out “lived experience” - and most are reacting to the actual facts as presented.

Seems to me that society is finally coming around and saying enough is enough to tolerating bad white behavior. Pitiful it took centuries and the danger of never-forgetting social media to finally turn the corner.
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Anonymous wrote:Also he didn’t cause harm. Her actions did.


You have that exactly opposite.

Please. If she didn’t throw the n word out there none of this would have happened. Again, whites want to live in a world for themselves full of do-overs while denying others the same. Systematic racism at its best. White woman’s tears and the knights in white shining armor come out to defend her honor (or, in reality, defend her privilege).


You will continue to lose this argument badly, because you are just spouting an arsenal of cliches - shame on you, though, for leaving out “lived experience” - and most are reacting to the actual facts as presented.

Seems to me that society is finally coming around and saying enough is enough to tolerating bad white behavior. Pitiful it took centuries and the danger of never-forgetting social media to finally turn the corner.


Unless that bad white behavior is throwing rocks at cops.
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Anonymous wrote:Didn't read the past 46 pages so not sure if this has been brought up.

The phrase uttered was the lyrics of a song.


Which song? It doesn’t matter. Don’t say the n word is not a difficult life rule.


Mea culpa.

Sorry I was wrong. This was not from song, not that it should matter anyways. Wrong is wrong.
I should’ve fact checked first instead of repeating what I heard from someone else. I did after post and here I am back to correct the record.
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Anonymous wrote:"I think what you're hearing/seeing is fear. People are realizing that a girl, who made a mistake at a young age when many, many kids make mistakes is paying for in a spectacularly public and life-altering manner. That her accomplishments, character, and work ethic are essentially meaningless at this point in her life, because of this one mistake. "

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And i'll agree that most transgressions kids make should not have spectacularly public & life-altering penalties attached to them. Violent actions need to be punished in a way that does not allow the person being hurt to continue being hurt moving forward.

But aside from that, penalties for dumb sh-t kids do should be 95% in the moment - grounding, detention, suspension from an extra-curricular for X days/weeks - not on the order of magnitude of what has happened to this girl for literally a single really stupid (and wrong) thing she did 3 years ago when a freshman in HS.


There was absolutely nothing violent about this behavior by Mimi. Nothing. Get a grip.


I agree. I’m pp. I was point out that with the exception of violent actions - that deserve a much more escalated response (and that aren’t present in this case), she should have been disciplined as a child needs not cancelled as if she’d done an egregious thing as an adult. And that is what most kids who do wrong stuff need too (violence being the exception).
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“ . It sounds though, like the adults were also a problem in this scenario...unwilling to address entrenched racism at the school,”

Frankly NYT did not do a good enough reporting job to be able to state that accurately or not. They don’t even mention reaching out to LCPS or Heritage HS for a response let alone have interviewed any other kids. The impression of them is just from what the boy said and things way in the past (fighting desegregation).

The gym class example is bad but I think when WaPo reported on that LCPS said the teacher was wrong and reprimanded for it or something along those lines. NYT seems to have phoned in the coverage of the HS situation despite going out of their way to try to make this a bigger dynamic about what Heritage is like. (No, I have no connection to the school. My kids are in FCPS).
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Agree. The article is both trying to paint Mimi and Heritage High as generally racist and doing a bad job at both.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:“ . It sounds though, like the adults were also a problem in this scenario...unwilling to address entrenched racism at the school,”

Frankly NYT did not do a good enough reporting job to be able to state that accurately or not. They don’t even mention reaching out to LCPS or Heritage HS for a response let alone have interviewed any other kids. The impression of them is just from what the boy said and things way in the past (fighting desegregation).

The gym class example is bad but I think when WaPo reported on that LCPS said the teacher was wrong and reprimanded for it or something along those lines. NYT seems to have phoned in the coverage of the HS situation despite going out of their way to try to make this a bigger dynamic about what Heritage is like. (No, I have no connection to the school. My kids are in FCPS).


pp here-- personally I think the punishment is disproportionate, given that the word was said when this girl was still so young herself--- but she is going to be made into an example, and that can happen.
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Anonymous wrote:Life altering!? She withdrew from UT. That’s IT!!


How stupid do you have to be to not acknowledge that everything which has transpired around this incident is indeed, life-altering? Her name will be forever associated with a stupid thing she did when she was 15. The internet will *never* forget. Withdrawing from UT might not have been insurmountable - if the entire nation wasn’t made aware of it, you utter loon.

Get back to us when your kid does something equally stupid - or worse, more likely - and is outed online. Then you can pretend it hasn’t been life-altering for him/her. Idiot.
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Anonymous wrote:Life altering!? She withdrew from UT. That’s IT!!


No, she was told that she would either withdraw or they would rescind her admission. She's will likely have some difficulty attaining a spot at another four-year university any time in the near future due to this incident + she has been publicly outed and shamed which may well affect future employment prospects. Her trajectory has changed, at least for the next few years years, possibly beyond.


This. What university will want to accept her now, thanks to the smear machine that this idiot kid put in motion?

All the more reason to NOT USE A RACIST WORD THAT YOU KNOW YOU SHOULDN’T.


DP. So my white kid has permission to cancel the next black kid who calls him the n-word?
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Anonymous wrote:The NYT makes Leesburg sound like some backwards place. I don’t know whether to lol at the Loudoun Moms who think their community is so posh or be slightly dismayed by New York’s disdain for DC/Nova.


It’s the NYT. Unless you live in NYC, LA, Portland, or Seattle, you are a backwards, unwoke redneck whom they look down upon. Which is why we subscribe to the WSJ instead.


It is a redneck backwoods judging from all these racist comments about Jimmy here and the other ones defending Mimi and her great parents. People in nova want to think they’re progressive and better than others but they’re not. We are Missouri with more degrees.


Calling someone out for being vindictive and flat-out mean is not “racist.” Sorry to disappoint. And who, exactly, has praised Mimi’s parents? Honestly, what do her parents even have to do with this? Teenagers are going to do stupid things, regardless of how good or bad their parents are.

You’re obviously seeing what you want to see through the lens of your fevered imagination. So pathetic.


Go read every single comment.


I’ve read this entire, idiotic thread. If you have specific examples of ANYONE praising her parents, then cite them. But you don’t because no one has. And you refuse to admit that teens are going to say and do whatever they want, regardless of how great their parents are. No doubt you did, and no doubt your own kids do. Better hope no one decides to publicly out them.
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Anonymous wrote:Also he didn’t cause harm. Her actions did.


You have that exactly opposite.

Please. If she didn’t throw the n word out there none of this would have happened. Again, whites want to live in a world for themselves full of do-overs while denying others the same. Systematic racism at its best. White woman’s tears and the knights in white shining armor come out to defend her honor (or, in reality, defend her privilege).


Oh, get over yourself. She said a vile word in a private three second video. She later apologized for it. That should have been the end of it, but an apology wasn’t enough for Jimmy. He wanted her to pay. It’s clear he has anger issues.
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Anonymous wrote:The NYT makes Leesburg sound like some backwards place. I don’t know whether to lol at the Loudoun Moms who think their community is so posh or be slightly dismayed by New York’s disdain for DC/Nova.


It’s the NYT. Unless you live in NYC, LA, Portland, or Seattle, you are a backwards, unwoke redneck whom they look down upon. Which is why we subscribe to the WSJ instead.


It is a redneck backwoods judging from all these racist comments about Jimmy here and the other ones defending Mimi and her great parents. People in nova want to think they’re progressive and better than others but they’re not. We are Missouri with more degrees.


Calling someone out for being vindictive and flat-out mean is not “racist.” Sorry to disappoint. And who, exactly, has praised Mimi’s parents? Honestly, what do her parents even have to do with this? Teenagers are going to do stupid things, regardless of how good or bad their parents are.

You’re obviously seeing what you want to see through the lens of your fevered imagination. So pathetic.


Go read every single comment.


I’ve read this entire, idiotic thread. If you have specific examples of ANYONE praising her parents, then cite them. But you don’t because no one has. And you refuse to admit that teens are going to say and do whatever they want, regardless of how great their parents are. No doubt you did, and no doubt your own kids do. Better hope no one decides to publicly out them.


Ok.
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Anonymous wrote:If the posters here are any indication of the true feelings of people in Loudoun County, I agree with the pp that I wouldn’t want to live there or visit.

-POC in PG county (so don’t condescend to me about DC)


Yeah they’re basically “if you don’t support casually racist while kids you can stay over there!” I live in Loudoun and this thread is embaraasinnnggg but also sadly predictable


Except that - ONCE AGAIN - no one is supporting “casual racism” of any kind. They are correctly pointing out that this particular punishment was grossly disproportionate to the actual offense. Which you would realize if you had any common sense at all.
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The entire community failed both kids, and the result is this public reckoning for both of them. This actually happens all the time but because a rich white girl is involved DCUM cares.


It might help if you could point to specific examples of black kids getting booted from flagship state universities because they’d made offensive comments when they were 15 directed at no one in particular but disparaging white kids, gay kids, Asian kids, etc. We’ll wait.



+ a million
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also he didn’t cause harm. Her actions did.


You have that exactly opposite.

Please. If she didn’t throw the n word out there none of this would have happened. Again, whites want to live in a world for themselves full of do-overs while denying others the same. Systematic racism at its best. White woman’s tears and the knights in white shining armor come out to defend her honor (or, in reality, defend her privilege).


Oh, get over yourself. She said a vile word in a private three second video. She later apologized for it. That should have been the end of it, but an apology wasn’t enough for Jimmy. He wanted her to pay. It’s clear he has anger issues.


If it was private she wouldn’t have sent it to anyone.
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