Making time for kids? Study says quality trumps quantity

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've been both: WOHM and SAHM. I'm incredibly fortunate to have a Mom who insisted in keeping her grandchildren when I did work.

Leaving my infant with a stranger does not sit well with me. When you add in a day care center where they won't receive individual care and attention...it's not happening. And having a nanny just leaves too much unaccountability for behaving well towards my child. I'd rather go on welfare and/or move in with my parents than subject my child to that.

IMO, children should be with their parents and/or loving grandparents until preschool.


Good lord, you're a moron.


Justify it all you want. Seeing infants stuck in a crib, playpen or highchair all day is heartbreaking. Young children should NOT be warehoused in daycare centers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've been both: WOHM and SAHM. I'm incredibly fortunate to have a Mom who insisted in keeping her grandchildren when I did work.

Leaving my infant with a stranger does not sit well with me. When you add in a day care center where they won't receive individual care and attention...it's not happening. And having a nanny just leaves too much unaccountability for behaving well towards my child. I'd rather go on welfare and/or move in with my parents than subject my child to that.

IMO, children should be with their parents and/or loving grandparents until preschool.


Do you not understand how this sounds? My mother was available to take care of my kid so that's what I did and I could go back to work guilt-free…the rest of you can go eff yourselves. My husband makes a ton of money so I could quit my job and stay home…the rest of you can go eff yourselves.

No one cares what you think, because you're a smug bitch.


You missed where I said I've also SAH...on my DH'S then $60k salary . It can be done but folks don't want to make the true sacrifices to make it happen. It's unfortunate.


Do you know what other people's bills are to say it can be done? For all we know you ran up a bunch of credit card bills. Just because you are okay with being a welfare queen doesn't mean other people want too.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've been both: WOHM and SAHM. I'm incredibly fortunate to have a Mom who insisted in keeping her grandchildren when I did work.

Leaving my infant with a stranger does not sit well with me. When you add in a day care center where they won't receive individual care and attention...it's not happening. And having a nanny just leaves too much unaccountability for behaving well towards my child. I'd rather go on welfare and/or move in with my parents than subject my child to that.

IMO, children should be with their parents and/or loving grandparents until preschool.


Good lord, you're a moron.


Justify it all you want. Seeing infants stuck in a crib, playpen or highchair all day is heartbreaking. Young children should NOT be warehoused in daycare centers.


Once again - DUH. I guarantee you no parent on this thread has a child in that situation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've been both: WOHM and SAHM. I'm incredibly fortunate to have a Mom who insisted in keeping her grandchildren when I did work.

Leaving my infant with a stranger does not sit well with me. When you add in a day care center where they won't receive individual care and attention...it's not happening. And having a nanny just leaves too much unaccountability for behaving well towards my child. I'd rather go on welfare and/or move in with my parents than subject my child to that.

IMO, children should be with their parents and/or loving grandparents until preschool.


It depends on the family member. My MIL is retired and kept my nephew. It set him behind socially a lot because all she did was stick him front of the tv. He knew all of the story lines on general hospital and one life to live. At the time people thought it was funny, but now he is behind in elementary school.

A lot of kids go to daycare and learn to read, write, and do all kinds of things that put them ahead. My daughter was really in love with her daycare teacher. When we moved she cried over her for days.

The fact that you are okay with fleecing the government for welfare shows you have low moral character.


I would say that might be more reflective of your child.

My Mom did no activities with my kids, they watched plenty of TV and they were never behind in school. But...my emphasis was on INFANT care, not preschool.

And if the choice is between putting my young infant in a center for 8+ hours a day and welfare, I'd absolutely choose welfare.


But that's not a valid choice. Welfare does not pay the bills - you clearly have no understanding of how very little one actually gets - and it would not pay for you to stay home. You would have to feed your kids subpar food and they would not be able to live in a safe comfortable home. You are grossly underestimating and misunderstanding what it actually means to be poor. The government is not interested in funding your ideals. And numerous studies have shown that poverty in early childhood is linked to just about every societal ill. So, really, that is your choice? You would teach your children - hopefully not a girl, my goodness - that if the choice were working and figuring out child care for 40 hours a week or abject poverty, out of which it is almost impossible to overcome, you choose to be poor. I am not sure anyone would ever applaud that reasoning.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've been both: WOHM and SAHM. I'm incredibly fortunate to have a Mom who insisted in keeping her grandchildren when I did work.

Leaving my infant with a stranger does not sit well with me. When you add in a day care center where they won't receive individual care and attention...it's not happening. And having a nanny just leaves too much unaccountability for behaving well towards my child. I'd rather go on welfare and/or move in with my parents than subject my child to that.

IMO, children should be with their parents and/or loving grandparents until preschool.


Good lord, you're a moron.


Justify it all you want. Seeing infants stuck in a crib, playpen or highchair all day is heartbreaking. Young children should NOT be warehoused in daycare centers.


A good daycare does no such thing. Infants in a good daycare would be interacting with their teacher, playing on the floor, or with age appropriate toys, etc. My daughters daycare also has a jumbo stroller and takes the kids out for walks all the time.

What should NOT be happening is insecure moms who have never had their child in daycare commenting on what happens in a daycare. I bet you've never even stepped foot inside a daycare center. But I guess it's easier to be a judgemental bitch than educate yourself.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've been both: WOHM and SAHM. I'm incredibly fortunate to have a Mom who insisted in keeping her grandchildren when I did work.

Leaving my infant with a stranger does not sit well with me. When you add in a day care center where they won't receive individual care and attention...it's not happening. And having a nanny just leaves too much unaccountability for behaving well towards my child. I'd rather go on welfare and/or move in with my parents than subject my child to that.

IMO, children should be with their parents and/or loving grandparents until preschool.


Do you not understand how this sounds? My mother was available to take care of my kid so that's what I did and I could go back to work guilt-free…the rest of you can go eff yourselves. My husband makes a ton of money so I could quit my job and stay home…the rest of you can go eff yourselves.

No one cares what you think, because you're a smug bitch.


You missed where I said I've also SAH...on my DH'S then $60k salary . It can be done but folks don't want to make the true sacrifices to make it happen. It's unfortunate.


Do you know what other people's bills are to say it can be done? For all we know you ran up a bunch of credit card bills. Just because you are okay with being a welfare queen doesn't mean other people want too.


Again, it can be done but it takes sacrifices. Most aren't willing to make them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've been both: WOHM and SAHM. I'm incredibly fortunate to have a Mom who insisted in keeping her grandchildren when I did work.

Leaving my infant with a stranger does not sit well with me. When you add in a day care center where they won't receive individual care and attention...it's not happening. And having a nanny just leaves too much unaccountability for behaving well towards my child. I'd rather go on welfare and/or move in with my parents than subject my child to that.

IMO, children should be with their parents and/or loving grandparents until preschool.


Good lord, you're a moron.


Justify it all you want. Seeing infants stuck in a crib, playpen or highchair all day is heartbreaking. Young children should NOT be warehoused in daycare centers.


Once again - DUH. I guarantee you no parent on this thread has a child in that situation.


Really? I'm sure their infants are in centers. And that's exactly what they do. It's a numbers thing. There just aren't enough workers to cater to your child.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've been both: WOHM and SAHM. I'm incredibly fortunate to have a Mom who insisted in keeping her grandchildren when I did work.

Leaving my infant with a stranger does not sit well with me. When you add in a day care center where they won't receive individual care and attention...it's not happening. And having a nanny just leaves too much unaccountability for behaving well towards my child. I'd rather go on welfare and/or move in with my parents than subject my child to that.

IMO, children should be with their parents and/or loving grandparents until preschool.


Good lord, you're a moron.


Justify it all you want. Seeing infants stuck in a crib, playpen or highchair all day is heartbreaking. Young children should NOT be warehoused in daycare centers.


A good daycare does no such thing. Infants in a good daycare would be interacting with their teacher, playing on the floor, or with age appropriate toys, etc. My daughters daycare also has a jumbo stroller and takes the kids out for walks all the time.

What should NOT be happening is insecure moms who have never had their child in daycare commenting on what happens in a daycare. I bet you've never even stepped foot inside a daycare center. But I guess it's easier to be a judgemental bitch than educate yourself.


Different poster here. Which daycare do you speak of?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've been both: WOHM and SAHM. I'm incredibly fortunate to have a Mom who insisted in keeping her grandchildren when I did work.

Leaving my infant with a stranger does not sit well with me. When you add in a day care center where they won't receive individual care and attention...it's not happening. And having a nanny just leaves too much unaccountability for behaving well towards my child. I'd rather go on welfare and/or move in with my parents than subject my child to that.

IMO, children should be with their parents and/or loving grandparents until preschool.


It depends on the family member. My MIL is retired and kept my nephew. It set him behind socially a lot because all she did was stick him front of the tv. He knew all of the story lines on general hospital and one life to live. At the time people thought it was funny, but now he is behind in elementary school.

A lot of kids go to daycare and learn to read, write, and do all kinds of things that put them ahead. My daughter was really in love with her daycare teacher. When we moved she cried over her for days.

The fact that you are okay with fleecing the government for welfare shows you have low moral character.


I would say that might be more reflective of your child.

My Mom did no activities with my kids, they watched plenty of TV and they were never behind in school. But...my emphasis was on INFANT care, not preschool.

And if the choice is between putting my young infant in a center for 8+ hours a day and welfare, I'd absolutely choose welfare.


So basically your mom did not watch your child, the TV did. Well I'm glad the TV did such a great job of watching your kid. I'm sure your baby enjoyed watching 8+ hours a day of non stop tv.


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've been both: WOHM and SAHM. I'm incredibly fortunate to have a Mom who insisted in keeping her grandchildren when I did work.

Leaving my infant with a stranger does not sit well with me. When you add in a day care center where they won't receive individual care and attention...it's not happening. And having a nanny just leaves too much unaccountability for behaving well towards my child. I'd rather go on welfare and/or move in with my parents than subject my child to that.

IMO, children should be with their parents and/or loving grandparents until preschool.


Good lord, you're a moron.


Justify it all you want. Seeing infants stuck in a crib, playpen or highchair all day is heartbreaking. Young children should NOT be warehoused in daycare centers.


Once again - DUH. I guarantee you no parent on this thread has a child in that situation.


Really? I'm sure their infants are in centers. And that's exactly what they do. It's a numbers thing. There just aren't enough workers to cater to your child.


Maryland law is three infants per teacher max. It absolutely is very possible for one person to care for three babies.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've been both: WOHM and SAHM. I'm incredibly fortunate to have a Mom who insisted in keeping her grandchildren when I did work.

Leaving my infant with a stranger does not sit well with me. When you add in a day care center where they won't receive individual care and attention...it's not happening. And having a nanny just leaves too much unaccountability for behaving well towards my child. I'd rather go on welfare and/or move in with my parents than subject my child to that.

IMO, children should be with their parents and/or loving grandparents until preschool.


It depends on the family member. My MIL is retired and kept my nephew. It set him behind socially a lot because all she did was stick him front of the tv. He knew all of the story lines on general hospital and one life to live. At the time people thought it was funny, but now he is behind in elementary school.

A lot of kids go to daycare and learn to read, write, and do all kinds of things that put them ahead. My daughter was really in love with her daycare teacher. When we moved she cried over her for days.

The fact that you are okay with fleecing the government for welfare shows you have low moral character.


I would say that might be more reflective of your child.

My Mom did no activities with my kids, they watched plenty of TV and they were never behind in school. But...my emphasis was on INFANT care, not preschool.

And if the choice is between putting my young infant in a center for 8+ hours a day and welfare, I'd absolutely choose welfare.


But that's not a valid choice. Welfare does not pay the bills - you clearly have no understanding of how very little one actually gets - and it would not pay for you to stay home. You would have to feed your kids subpar food and they would not be able to live in a safe comfortable home. You are grossly underestimating and misunderstanding what it actually means to be poor. The government is not interested in funding your ideals. And numerous studies have shown that poverty in early childhood is linked to just about every societal ill. So, really, that is your choice? You would teach your children - hopefully not a girl, my goodness - that if the choice were working and figuring out child care for 40 hours a week or abject poverty, out of which it is almost impossible to overcome, you choose to be poor. I am not sure anyone would ever applaud that reasoning.


Oh, how wrong you are. Born and raised in poverty, public housing and welfare.

Thankfully, this was not a choice I had to make. And neither do you all. Surviving on one spouse's income is entirely doable. Entirely.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've been both: WOHM and SAHM. I'm incredibly fortunate to have a Mom who insisted in keeping her grandchildren when I did work.

Leaving my infant with a stranger does not sit well with me. When you add in a day care center where they won't receive individual care and attention...it's not happening. And having a nanny just leaves too much unaccountability for behaving well towards my child. I'd rather go on welfare and/or move in with my parents than subject my child to that.

IMO, children should be with their parents and/or loving grandparents until preschool.


Good lord, you're a moron.


Justify it all you want. Seeing infants stuck in a crib, playpen or highchair all day is heartbreaking. Young children should NOT be warehoused in daycare centers.


Once again - DUH. I guarantee you no parent on this thread has a child in that situation.


Really? I'm sure their infants are in centers. And that's exactly what they do. It's a numbers thing. There just aren't enough workers to cater to your child.


So the video monitors lie, I guess. Just stop, asshole.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've been both: WOHM and SAHM. I'm incredibly fortunate to have a Mom who insisted in keeping her grandchildren when I did work.

Leaving my infant with a stranger does not sit well with me. When you add in a day care center where they won't receive individual care and attention...it's not happening. And having a nanny just leaves too much unaccountability for behaving well towards my child. I'd rather go on welfare and/or move in with my parents than subject my child to that.

IMO, children should be with their parents and/or loving grandparents until preschool.


Good lord, you're a moron.


Justify it all you want. Seeing infants stuck in a crib, playpen or highchair all day is heartbreaking. Young children should NOT be warehoused in daycare centers.


A good daycare does no such thing. Infants in a good daycare would be interacting with their teacher, playing on the floor, or with age appropriate toys, etc. My daughters daycare also has a jumbo stroller and takes the kids out for walks all the time.

What should NOT be happening is insecure moms who have never had their child in daycare commenting on what happens in a daycare. I bet you've never even stepped foot inside a daycare center. But I guess it's easier to be a judgemental bitch than educate yourself.


Different poster here. Which daycare do you speak of?



Children in the Shoe. Rock Spring. Wonders. Need more?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've been both: WOHM and SAHM. I'm incredibly fortunate to have a Mom who insisted in keeping her grandchildren when I did work.

Leaving my infant with a stranger does not sit well with me. When you add in a day care center where they won't receive individual care and attention...it's not happening. And having a nanny just leaves too much unaccountability for behaving well towards my child. I'd rather go on welfare and/or move in with my parents than subject my child to that.

IMO, children should be with their parents and/or loving grandparents until preschool.


Do you not understand how this sounds? My mother was available to take care of my kid so that's what I did and I could go back to work guilt-free…the rest of you can go eff yourselves. My husband makes a ton of money so I could quit my job and stay home…the rest of you can go eff yourselves.

No one cares what you think, because you're a smug bitch.


You missed where I said I've also SAH...on my DH'S then $60k salary . It can be done but folks don't want to make the true sacrifices to make it happen. It's unfortunate.


Do you know what other people's bills are to say it can be done? For all we know you ran up a bunch of credit card bills. Just because you are okay with being a welfare queen doesn't mean other people want too.


Again, it can be done but it takes sacrifices. Most aren't willing to make them.


And that's fine, unless you are a narcissist you should have no problem with the fact that we are not all the same and people have different ideas about what they want for their families.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've been both: WOHM and SAHM. I'm incredibly fortunate to have a Mom who insisted in keeping her grandchildren when I did work.

Leaving my infant with a stranger does not sit well with me. When you add in a day care center where they won't receive individual care and attention...it's not happening. And having a nanny just leaves too much unaccountability for behaving well towards my child. I'd rather go on welfare and/or move in with my parents than subject my child to that.

IMO, children should be with their parents and/or loving grandparents until preschool.


Good lord, you're a moron.


Justify it all you want. Seeing infants stuck in a crib, playpen or highchair all day is heartbreaking. Young children should NOT be warehoused in daycare centers.


A good daycare does no such thing. Infants in a good daycare would be interacting with their teacher, playing on the floor, or with age appropriate toys, etc. My daughters daycare also has a jumbo stroller and takes the kids out for walks all the time.

What should NOT be happening is insecure moms who have never had their child in daycare commenting on what happens in a daycare. I bet you've never even stepped foot inside a daycare center. But I guess it's easier to be a judgemental bitch than educate yourself.



I have family and friends who work in these settings. It happens. Blind yourself all you want but it happens. In fact, my sister just left a job at a highly regarded center because the lead teachers treated the infants poorly including spanking on the hand and roughly putting them in the crib when they cried.
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