Hoax: Hate crime attackers: "This is MAGA country."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate Trump and I didn't think the story made sense from the beginning. To me, the political nature of this story was a good hook. If you want sympathy, you don't just say you got attacked by two drunk guys at night -- there is no outrage in that. So you have to find something to hang the story on that riles everyone up. Makes him a hero even. But it was inconceivable.

I am less interested in the political implications of this than i am about the person himself. A complete fabrication to perhaps energize his career, and he has ruined his life. such a poor decision.

Seriously. He has really screwed up, and I wonder about his mental health leading up to this event.

Mental health? The guy is an obvious imbecile. From the beginning this was the most ludicrous story ever told.......embarrassing idiot.

He is an idiot. I am more upset over the damage his lies have done to the country's psyche.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate Trump and I didn't think the story made sense from the beginning. To me, the political nature of this story was a good hook. If you want sympathy, you don't just say you got attacked by two drunk guys at night -- there is no outrage in that. So you have to find something to hang the story on that riles everyone up. Makes him a hero even. But it was inconceivable.

I am less interested in the political implications of this than i am about the person himself. A complete fabrication to perhaps energize his career, and he has ruined his life. such a poor decision.

Seriously. He has really screwed up, and I wonder about his mental health leading up to this event.

Mental health? The guy is an obvious imbecile. From the beginning this was the most ludicrous story ever told.......embarrassing idiot.

He is an idiot. I am more upset over the damage his lies have done to the country's psyche.

So far since trump was elected we have had hoaxes from muslims, blacks, gays, anti trump people writing on buildings etc. He isn't the first and he certainly won't be the last. Libs have gone insane for trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate Trump and I didn't think the story made sense from the beginning. To me, the political nature of this story was a good hook. If you want sympathy, you don't just say you got attacked by two drunk guys at night -- there is no outrage in that. So you have to find something to hang the story on that riles everyone up. Makes him a hero even. But it was inconceivable.

I am less interested in the political implications of this than i am about the person himself. A complete fabrication to perhaps energize his career, and he has ruined his life. such a poor decision.

Seriously. He has really screwed up, and I wonder about his mental health leading up to this event.

Mental health? The guy is an obvious imbecile. From the beginning this was the most ludicrous story ever told.......embarrassing idiot.

He is an idiot. I am more upset over the damage his lies have done to the country's psyche.

So far since trump was elected we have had hoaxes from muslims, blacks, gays, anti trump people writing on buildings etc. He isn't the first and he certainly won't be the last. Libs have gone insane for trump.

Trump broke their goddamn brains. They can’t comprehend it. How could he possibly become president? It just is not something they can begin to fathom.

(I say this as someone who never even considered voting for Trump.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I actually LIKE that the thread title hasn’t been changed, even though its apparent to everyone this was a hoax.

By not changing it, it reminds everyone of the implicit bias here. There is no way anyone can argue that this site is a fair arena for discussion, that there isn’t a very heavy thumb on the ideological scale. Not when things like this stand.

I hope the thread title is never changed.

Well, I get that point -- that liberals jumped on the bandwagon fast on this one. But I would point out the same happens on the other side, too.
But I would reduce it to this: if this story WERE true, it would be horrible. But it would not condemn an entire group of people -- even MAGA people. It would still and all be two people who did something horrible. Not being true, I would say Jussie Smollett did something horrible.

I don't condemn the people who supported Jussie Smollett in the sense of, "Oh this is horrible". But I do think you have to look at events with some objectivity. Too much electric charge these days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually LIKE that the thread title hasn’t been changed, even though its apparent to everyone this was a hoax.

By not changing it, it reminds everyone of the implicit bias here. There is no way anyone can argue that this site is a fair arena for discussion, that there isn’t a very heavy thumb on the ideological scale. Not when things like this stand.

I hope the thread title is never changed.

Well, I get that point -- that liberals jumped on the bandwagon fast on this one. But I would point out the same happens on the other side, too.
But I would reduce it to this: if this story WERE true, it would be horrible. But it would not condemn an entire group of people -- even MAGA people. It would still and all be two people who did something horrible. Not being true, I would say Jussie Smollett did something horrible.

I don't condemn the people who supported Jussie Smollett in the sense of, "Oh this is horrible". But I do think you have to look at events with some objectivity. Too much electric charge these days.

Lot of truth to this. Everyone thinks they understand that anecdote and data are not the same thing. But they see one or two clips on an acquaintance’s social media feed, and the idea that every individual incident necessarily represents something greater than itself takes hold.

People are using social media these days to feed the hysteria underlying their fear about how screwed the modern world is. They want targets. They want someone to blame. It’s super unhealthy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually LIKE that the thread title hasn’t been changed, even though its apparent to everyone this was a hoax.

By not changing it, it reminds everyone of the implicit bias here. There is no way anyone can argue that this site is a fair arena for discussion, that there isn’t a very heavy thumb on the ideological scale. Not when things like this stand.

I hope the thread title is never changed.

Well, I get that point -- that liberals jumped on the bandwagon fast on this one. But I would point out the same happens on the other side, too.
But I would reduce it to this: if this story WERE true, it would be horrible. But it would not condemn an entire group of people -- even MAGA people. It would still and all be two people who did something horrible. Not being true, I would say Jussie Smollett did something horrible.

I don't condemn the people who supported Jussie Smollett in the sense of, "Oh this is horrible". But I do think you have to look at events with some objectivity. Too much electric charge these days.

This is an outgrowth of the "Believe Victims" ethos that is being forced onto us over the last few years. It has become socially unacceptable to simple state that you would like to withhold judgement until the facts are out. We are now required to immediately assume that the accuser is telling the truth and denounce the perpetrator. We need to get back to being objective and not rushing to judgment and engaging in reckless recriminations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
This is an outgrowth of the "Believe Victims" ethos that is being forced onto us over the last few years. It has become socially unacceptable to simple state that you would like to withhold judgement until the facts are out. We are now required to immediately assume that the accuser is telling the truth and denounce the perpetrator. We need to get back to being objective and not rushing to judgment and engaging in reckless recriminations.

I agree with this, and I consider myself a liberal. But add to that a very palpable change in people's desire to identify with a side. In a normal (non racial) attack, healthy skepticism would be part of the discussion. "Why is he getting a sandwich at 2 am?". For that matter, responses of, "Let's believe the victim unless proven otherwise" would be offered up by those raised on giving people the benefit of the doubt (particularly as there was no other "side" to the story). Somehow, in this new comfort we take in dividing ourselves, we also immediately take sides when presented with the least bit of information. I do believe the victims, actually, but much in the way I believed my kids. Trust and verify. Verifying doesn't make me bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
This is an outgrowth of the "Believe Victims" ethos that is being forced onto us over the last few years. It has become socially unacceptable to simple state that you would like to withhold judgement until the facts are out. We are now required to immediately assume that the accuser is telling the truth and denounce the perpetrator. We need to get back to being objective and not rushing to judgment and engaging in reckless recriminations.

I agree with this, and I consider myself a liberal. But add to that a very palpable change in people's desire to identify with a side. In a normal (non racial) attack, healthy skepticism would be part of the discussion. "Why is he getting a sandwich at 2 am?". For that matter, responses of, "Let's believe the victim unless proven otherwise" would be offered up by those raised on giving people the benefit of the doubt (particularly as there was no other "side" to the story). Somehow, in this new comfort we take in dividing ourselves, we also immediately take sides when presented with the least bit of information. I do believe the victims, actually, but much in the way I believed my kids. Trust and verify. Verifying doesn't make me bad.

Careful. This type of questioning is dangerously close to "victim blaming." King of like "what was she doing in a dark alley alone at 2am" and that is expressly forbidden.
To be honest, I think when there are so many obvious ?? (moreso than "why is he getting a sandwich at 2am" is "what MAGA guys are familiar enough with EMPIRE *or* Jussie Smollett to call him out as "Empire n-word"??? That made me realize he truly is a narcissist if he thinks he's that famous. Nope...no one really knows you, dude. And especially not at 2 in the morning in Chicago! After that, it makes more sense to question who benefits from the story being believed.
And in this case, he is in deep with a bunch of democrat politicians who are trying desperately to get their "anti-lynching" bill passed (that contains language that attempts to criminalize WORDS on social medias a "hate speech"...so frightening...it's as though Dems have forgotten that "hate speech" IS protected speech under the first amendment! It is PROTECTED. Yes...it's icky...but so what? It's still protected and should be! Because if you start criminalizing speech, you better be prepared for someone else to decide for you what is hateful and what isn't. And look out when the group in power doesn't agree with you on what is hateful! Such a crazy slide we are on.) ACTIONS are already illegal. Lynching...ACTUAL lynching...is already AGAINST THE LAW. There is not a need for this bill except that it is another attempt to try to gain more control over people's freedoms. And they needed a catalyst...and EVENT that people could get behind and say "ooooh...Kamala Harris is right...we need this bill! Obviously!...b/c look what happened to Jussie Smollett..."
His plan was just poorly executed and fell apart too rapidly to be useful.

[Anonymous]

I like this media montage and only once did the word "alleged" was used. Agenda driving media is right from the fascist playbook.

https://twitter.com/MarkDice/status/1096940370523389952

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I like this media montage and only once did the word "alleged" was used. Agenda driving media is right from the fascist playbook.

https://twitter.com/MarkDice/status/1096940370523389952

I wonder how many of these "journalists" will admit to NOT waiting for the whole story and apologize to their viewers.
(I don't really wonder.... I know how many)

[Anonymous]

Nancy Pelosi quietly deleted this tweet. The hypocrisy by the left is obvious.

http://archive.fo/qZ5Qg

[Anonymous]

And, when people who support Trump are attacked or threatened, the media hardly covers it.
This from a local station........

https://www.wbko.com/content/news/Man-arrested-after-alleged-incident-at-Sams-Club-in-Bowling-Green-505971901.html

A Tennessee man is in jail after being accused of pulling a gun on a Sam's Club customer Saturday.

According to the police report, officers were called to Sam's Club due to a person with a gun.

According to the alleged victim Terry Pierce, a man pulled a gun on him because he was wearing a Make America Great Again (MAGA) hat.

"I have as much right to wear that hat and support my country and my president as he has not to," said Pierce.

The police report confirms that the suspect, identified as James Phillips, admitted to flipping off Pierce and Pierce's wife because of their hats.

Pierce tells 13 News that he was shopping with his wife when Phillips "Pulled a .40 caliber out and stuck it in my face, backed up and said, 'It's a good day for you to die.'"

Pierce went on to tell 13 News, "I said, 'Then pull the trigger. Put the gun down and fight me or pull the trigger. Whichever one you want.' And he backed up and he said it again, he said, 'It's a good day for you to die.'"

The police confirms that he did have a weapon in his back pocket.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate Trump and I didn't think the story made sense from the beginning. To me, the political nature of this story was a good hook. If you want sympathy, you don't just say you got attacked by two drunk guys at night -- there is no outrage in that. So you have to find something to hang the story on that riles everyone up. Makes him a hero even. But it was inconceivable.

I am less interested in the political implications of this than i am about the person himself. A complete fabrication to perhaps energize his career, and he has ruined his life. such a poor decision.

Seriously. He has really screwed up, and I wonder about his mental health leading up to this event.

Mental health? The guy is an obvious imbecile. From the beginning this was the most ludicrous story ever told.......embarrassing idiot.

He is an idiot. I am more upset over the damage his lies have done to the country's psyche.

He has gone from hero to villain. Our society is worse off for what he has done.

[Anonymous]

When will Smollett meet with investigators? Is he celebrating President's Day and too busy to answer questions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hate Trump and I didn't think the story made sense from the beginning. To me, the political nature of this story was a good hook. If you want sympathy, you don't just say you got attacked by two drunk guys at night -- there is no outrage in that. So you have to find something to hang the story on that riles everyone up. Makes him a hero even. But it was inconceivable.

I am less interested in the political implications of this than i am about the person himself. A complete fabrication to perhaps energize his career, and he has ruined his life. such a poor decision.

Seriously. He has really screwed up, and I wonder about his mental health leading up to this event.

Mental health? The guy is an obvious imbecile. From the beginning this was the most ludicrous story ever told.......embarrassing idiot.

He is an idiot. I am more upset over the damage his lies have done to the country's psyche.

He has gone from hero to villain. Our society is worse off for what he has done.

^Same.

He’s done a lot of damage to true victims of these sorts of crimes. I am really angry about this. And he doesn’t even have the damn decency to admit his lie, so we can all heal. He’s doubling down on his ridiculous story.