Van Hollen in El Salvador

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Anonymous wrote:As a former Marylander, Van Hollen is way off base here. MS-13 is inside the schools, girls are being kidnapped and trafficked, rival teens are being lured into the woods and stabbed to death. A poor kid was murdered at Lake Forest mall for the crime of wearing a shirt the wrong color. This gang has gutted the once thriving communities of Montgomery Village, Germantown, and much of Gaithersburg. Who exactly is Van Hollen appealing to or protecting? The vast majority of the victims of MS-13 are Hispanic teens. This isn't a white vs POC thing. This is a criminal vs peaceful person thing. He needs to get a clue and talk to Maryland parents who've had pieces of their children returned to them in bags.

A girl's body was found along the C&O Canal in the vicinity of Chain Bridge a few years ago. She was Hispanic. Her body had been cut up into pieces. A young man was also found murdered and dismembered along the C&O Canal a few years ago. Law enforcement found MS-13 insignia in the woods close to where this young man's body was found. Any reasonable person with their head screwed on straight understands the animals who committed these crimes do not belong in our communities.

MS-13 is a murderous gang known for drug dealing and human trafficking. The manner in which the two above young people were murdered indicates at the very least extreme psychopathy. They are a public menace.

I am not happy with a lot of Trump's actions, but deporting brutal gang members should not disturb anyone.

Person dominating thread with a hundred silly arguments is likely an MS-13 member tasked with defending this man.

DP. For the 100th time (excuse the shouting), NO ONE IS AGAINST DEPORTING ACTUAL GANG MEMBERS!

Yet the left is doing a full press court to defend an actual gang member who was here illegally. With all the issues that Van Hollen could be focused on, and could spend taxpayer money on, he is choosing THIS. So explain why defending this guy is more important than anything else.

Is this source "the left" ?
https://www.nationalreview.com/bench-memos/stephen-millers-brazen-misrepresentation-of-abrego-garcia-ruling/

WFB Jr's son took over NR when he died and NR stopped being considered a fully right wing medium.

Oh, conservatives still gotta bend the knee

? You asked if it is right wing. It's not anymore, not entirely.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thing is about due process. He was sent to a prison in El Salvador without being given due process. He needs to return here so that he can go through the due process. The Supreme Court voted 9-0 that he needs to be returned for God's sake. Do you think that the SCOTUS does not understand the laws of this country? Every single one of them voted the same way. Let that sink in.

People can make all kinds of conjectures about his gang membership or whatever, but the fact remains that he was ILLEGALLY sent to El Salvador. He was not "deported". He was merely sent there based on no evidence. This is ILLEGAL. It is FAR more important to hold our government to account than any details of this case. If we let our government do this, we are looking at a government that can do whatever it wants with people. No day in court folks. You are just sent into a black hole somewhere.

Even accepting all you claim, let’s address the part in bold:

How?

How exactly must Trump “return” him, when El Salvador has refused to release him?

Do you want Trump to send in The Marines to get him back?

Moreover: Garcia is a citizen of El Salvador and he has no legal status whatsoever here. He has no visa to travel here.

Before you mention TPS (which expires 9/2026), TPS is ONLY for aliens who are present in the USA; TPS cannot be substituted for a visa and TPS is not available for aliens outside the USA.

Practically: in what legal manner can Garcia be brought into the USA? (even assuming his country lets him go).

Oh please. No one believes that El Salvador has “refused” to return him. Bukele is doing exactly what Trump wants him to do because he is being paid $8 million and it’s obvious that if the US really asked for him back we could easily get him back.

As the right wing judge on the 4th circuit put it, this case is just about the principle that you don’t get to illegally kidnap people from the US and then claim they lack any rights because they are outside the US.

If you disagree with that you are an unAmerican Fascist.

They did not illegally kidnap anyone from the US. There was nothing wrong with picking this guy up and sending him out of the US. No 'due process' was required to do this. The only mistake is sending him to El Salvador because of his withholding of removal.
Even that might not be a mistake with the terrorist designation for MS-13.

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Anonymous wrote:As a former Marylander, Van Hollen is way off base here. MS-13 is inside the schools, girls are being kidnapped and trafficked, rival teens are being lured into the woods and stabbed to death. A poor kid was murdered at Lake Forest mall for the crime of wearing a shirt the wrong color. This gang has gutted the once thriving communities of Montgomery Village, Germantown, and much of Gaithersburg. Who exactly is Van Hollen appealing to or protecting? The vast majority of the victims of MS-13 are Hispanic teens. This isn't a white vs POC thing. This is a criminal vs peaceful person thing. He needs to get a clue and talk to Maryland parents who've had pieces of their children returned to them in bags.

A girl's body was found along the C&O Canal in the vicinity of Chain Bridge a few years ago. She was Hispanic. Her body had been cut up into pieces. A young man was also found murdered and dismembered along the C&O Canal a few years ago. Law enforcement found MS-13 insignia in the woods close to where this young man's body was found. Any reasonable person with their head screwed on straight understands the animals who committed these crimes do not belong in our communities.

MS-13 is a murderous gang known for drug dealing and human trafficking. The manner in which the two above young people were murdered indicates at the very least extreme psychopathy. They are a public menace.

I am not happy with a lot of Trump's actions, but deporting brutal gang members should not disturb anyone.

Person dominating thread with a hundred silly arguments is likely an MS-13 member tasked with defending this man.

DP. For the 100th time (excuse the shouting), NO ONE IS AGAINST DEPORTING ACTUAL GANG MEMBERS!

Yet the left is doing a full press court to defend an actual gang member who was here illegally. With all the issues that Van Hollen could be focused on, and could spend taxpayer money on, he is choosing THIS. So explain why defending this guy is more important than anything else.

Is this source "the left" ?
https://www.nationalreview.com/bench-memos/stephen-millers-brazen-misrepresentation-of-abrego-garcia-ruling/

WFB Jr's son took over NR when he died and NR stopped being considered a fully right wing medium.

Oh, conservatives still gotta bend the knee

? You asked if it is right wing. It's not anymore, not entirely.

Oh, moderate conservatives are cancelled. Only the extremes of either party can have a worthwhile POV? Eff us all.

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Anonymous wrote:^ Wihtholding removal order to El Salvador--where is he now?

He was denied bail at first, and later asylum because the allowable time to claim was passed.

Between 2019 and 2025

The info in rollingstone has been reported everywhere

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5252884-deportation-legal-battle/

Further, "Since 2019, when he was released with the protective order, Mr Abrego Garcia's lawyers say he has had yearly check-ins with immigration officials, which he has attended "without fail and without incident"."

So he could be deported theoretically, but not to El SAlvador.

ANd again, WHERE IS HE?

Get it now?

He had check ins because he is DEPORTABLE! That’s the whole point. Citizens don’t check in with immigration. He was not permanently authorized to stay and he knew it.

The check ins were required while he pursued citizenship. If there was a point where he should have been deported, they would have. And again, there was an order that he could not be sent to El Salvador.

Look, just give it up. You are so losing on the facts here.

That’s a laughable claim. He was never eligible for citizenship and that’s why his wife never tried to get him a green card. You can’t get citizenship when you enter illegally and he had already been denied asylum. Citizenship was never on the table.

You are correct that he was in legal limbo--undeportable to EL Salvador but no path to citizenship here. Not sure to resolve that.
But the fact remains, there was a legal order prohibiting sending him to EL Salvador and the Trump admin violated it.

Why no pass to citizenship? If his wife an American citizen, why would she not petition for him to obtain a green card and citizenship?

Just curious, would he be eligible for a green card if he has a criminal history of domestic abuse? If he gets a green card but then commits a crime, is his green card revoked? If he enters the country illegally, is he eligible for a green card?

No. Considering his record of domestic violence restraining orders, he will not be allowed to adjust his status to greencard holder; either as a matter of law or discretion.

His wife simply needs to move to El Salvador and hope for his release there, where they can live in peace in his country.

All he has to do is not mention it on the application.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole thing is about due process. He was sent to a prison in El Salvador without being given due process. He needs to return here so that he can go through the due process. The Supreme Court voted 9-0 that he needs to be returned for God's sake. Do you think that the SCOTUS does not understand the laws of this country? Every single one of them voted the same way. Let that sink in.

People can make all kinds of conjectures about his gang membership or whatever, but the fact remains that he was ILLEGALLY sent to El Salvador. He was not "deported". He was merely sent there based on no evidence. This is ILLEGAL. It is FAR more important to hold our government to account than any details of this case. If we let our government do this, we are looking at a government that can do whatever it wants with people. No day in court folks. You are just sent into a black hole somewhere.

Ok. Then they should correct the paperwork errors that made this illegal and send his no good, violent, ugly, gangster self back to the country where he is an actual citizen.

Have you ever stopped to think about *why* Trump is refusing to bring him back to follow proper procedure/fix the paperwork??

snafu.

Yes. I am aware it is because the sovereign government of El Salvador said no. What do you want, Trump to invade them and kidnap Kilmar?

And so the next time Trump ignores the Supreme court, that will be ok? And when a future Dem leader does, that will be ok?

(note that MAGAs were up in arms over Biden possibly ignoring the Supreme court on student loans but he did adapt approach within existing law so do not even try and say Biden did, as he did not)

Explain to me how you propose that Trump get Kilmar back from a sovereign nation who is refusing to comply, given that he's a citizen. We cant even get US citizens back from Hamas or Russia.

Spitball some solutions. Should we trade Justin Bieber for him? Pay for his release? And to what end? To reprocess his deportation?

I think someone from the administration should make a call to someone in the El Salvador government and say “we made a mistake can we have him back.” Bring him back, then process his deportation properly dotting all the i’s and crossing all the t’s, then send him packing. That is what a rule of law abiding administration would do. Everybody wins that say. We follow the rules and also rid ourselves of a wife beating gang member.

Sure. But right now there is a bigger fight going on of the executive branch is protecting its powers, against encroachment by the judiciary. Courts should not be dictating foreign policy to the President.

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Anonymous wrote:^ Wihtholding removal order to El Salvador--where is he now?

He was denied bail at first, and later asylum because the allowable time to claim was passed.

Between 2019 and 2025

The info in rollingstone has been reported everywhere

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5252884-deportation-legal-battle/

Further, "Since 2019, when he was released with the protective order, Mr Abrego Garcia's lawyers say he has had yearly check-ins with immigration officials, which he has attended "without fail and without incident"."

So he could be deported theoretically, but not to El SAlvador.

ANd again, WHERE IS HE?

Get it now?

He had check ins because he is DEPORTABLE! That’s the whole point. Citizens don’t check in with immigration. He was not permanently authorized to stay and he knew it.

The check ins were required while he pursued citizenship. If there was a point where he should have been deported, they would have. And again, there was an order that he could not be sent to El Salvador.

Look, just give it up. You are so losing on the facts here.

That’s a laughable claim. He was never eligible for citizenship and that’s why his wife never tried to get him a green card. You can’t get citizenship when you enter illegally and he had already been denied asylum. Citizenship was never on the table.

You are correct that he was in legal limbo--undeportable to EL Salvador but no path to citizenship here. Not sure to resolve that.
But the fact remains, there was a legal order prohibiting sending him to EL Salvador and the Trump admin violated it.

Why no pass to citizenship? If his wife an American citizen, why would she not petition for him to obtain a green card and citizenship?

Just curious, would he be eligible for a green card if he has a criminal history of domestic abuse? If he gets a green card but then commits a crime, is his green card revoked? If he enters the country illegally, is he eligible for a green card?

No. Considering his record of domestic violence restraining orders, he will not be allowed to adjust his status to greencard holder; either as a matter of law or discretion.

His wife simply needs to move to El Salvador and hope for his release there, where they can live in peace in his country.

All he has to do is not mention it on the application.

No, he's much too notorious now for USCIS to not do their due diligence. BTW, USCIS is incredibly thorough, in case you didn't know. Very little gets past them. Hence why applications take years to move - there's someone examining your entire life under an electron microscope.

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Anonymous wrote:As a former Marylander, Van Hollen is way off base here. MS-13 is inside the schools, girls are being kidnapped and trafficked, rival teens are being lured into the woods and stabbed to death. A poor kid was murdered at Lake Forest mall for the crime of wearing a shirt the wrong color. This gang has gutted the once thriving communities of Montgomery Village, Germantown, and much of Gaithersburg. Who exactly is Van Hollen appealing to or protecting? The vast majority of the victims of MS-13 are Hispanic teens. This isn't a white vs POC thing. This is a criminal vs peaceful person thing. He needs to get a clue and talk to Maryland parents who've had pieces of their children returned to them in bags.

A girl's body was found along the C&O Canal in the vicinity of Chain Bridge a few years ago. She was Hispanic. Her body had been cut up into pieces. A young man was also found murdered and dismembered along the C&O Canal a few years ago. Law enforcement found MS-13 insignia in the woods close to where this young man's body was found. Any reasonable person with their head screwed on straight understands the animals who committed these crimes do not belong in our communities.

MS-13 is a murderous gang known for drug dealing and human trafficking. The manner in which the two above young people were murdered indicates at the very least extreme psychopathy. They are a public menace.

I am not happy with a lot of Trump's actions, but deporting brutal gang members should not disturb anyone.

Person dominating thread with a hundred silly arguments is likely an MS-13 member tasked with defending this man.

DP. For the 100th time (excuse the shouting), NO ONE IS AGAINST DEPORTING ACTUAL GANG MEMBERS!

Yet the left is doing a full press court to defend an actual gang member who was here illegally. With all the issues that Van Hollen could be focused on, and could spend taxpayer money on, he is choosing THIS. So explain why defending this guy is more important than anything else.

Is this source "the left" ?
https://www.nationalreview.com/bench-memos/stephen-millers-brazen-misrepresentation-of-abrego-garcia-ruling/

WFB Jr's son took over NR when he died and NR stopped being considered a fully right wing medium.

False. It has been run by Rich Lowry for about 25 years.

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Anonymous wrote:As a former Marylander, Van Hollen is way off base here. MS-13 is inside the schools, girls are being kidnapped and trafficked, rival teens are being lured into the woods and stabbed to death. A poor kid was murdered at Lake Forest mall for the crime of wearing a shirt the wrong color. This gang has gutted the once thriving communities of Montgomery Village, Germantown, and much of Gaithersburg. Who exactly is Van Hollen appealing to or protecting? The vast majority of the victims of MS-13 are Hispanic teens. This isn't a white vs POC thing. This is a criminal vs peaceful person thing. He needs to get a clue and talk to Maryland parents who've had pieces of their children returned to them in bags.

A girl's body was found along the C&O Canal in the vicinity of Chain Bridge a few years ago. She was Hispanic. Her body had been cut up into pieces. A young man was also found murdered and dismembered along the C&O Canal a few years ago. Law enforcement found MS-13 insignia in the woods close to where this young man's body was found. Any reasonable person with their head screwed on straight understands the animals who committed these crimes do not belong in our communities.

MS-13 is a murderous gang known for drug dealing and human trafficking. The manner in which the two above young people were murdered indicates at the very least extreme psychopathy. They are a public menace.

I am not happy with a lot of Trump's actions, but deporting brutal gang members should not disturb anyone.

Person dominating thread with a hundred silly arguments is likely an MS-13 member tasked with defending this man.

DP. For the 100th time (excuse the shouting), NO ONE IS AGAINST DEPORTING ACTUAL GANG MEMBERS!

Yet the left is doing a full press court to defend an actual gang member who was here illegally. With all the issues that Van Hollen could be focused on, and could spend taxpayer money on, he is choosing THIS. So explain why defending this guy is more important than anything else.

Is this source "the left" ?
https://www.nationalreview.com/bench-memos/stephen-millers-brazen-misrepresentation-of-abrego-garcia-ruling/

WFB Jr's son took over NR when he died and NR stopped being considered a fully right wing medium.

Oh, conservatives still gotta bend the knee

? You asked if it is right wing. It's not anymore, not entirely.

Ok so is there a right wing source with intelligent legal analysis? That is not Fox News? Or does such a thing not actually exist?

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Anonymous wrote:As a former Marylander, Van Hollen is way off base here. MS-13 is inside the schools, girls are being kidnapped and trafficked, rival teens are being lured into the woods and stabbed to death. A poor kid was murdered at Lake Forest mall for the crime of wearing a shirt the wrong color. This gang has gutted the once thriving communities of Montgomery Village, Germantown, and much of Gaithersburg. Who exactly is Van Hollen appealing to or protecting? The vast majority of the victims of MS-13 are Hispanic teens. This isn't a white vs POC thing. This is a criminal vs peaceful person thing. He needs to get a clue and talk to Maryland parents who've had pieces of their children returned to them in bags.

A girl's body was found along the C&O Canal in the vicinity of Chain Bridge a few years ago. She was Hispanic. Her body had been cut up into pieces. A young man was also found murdered and dismembered along the C&O Canal a few years ago. Law enforcement found MS-13 insignia in the woods close to where this young man's body was found. Any reasonable person with their head screwed on straight understands the animals who committed these crimes do not belong in our communities.

MS-13 is a murderous gang known for drug dealing and human trafficking. The manner in which the two above young people were murdered indicates at the very least extreme psychopathy. They are a public menace.

I am not happy with a lot of Trump's actions, but deporting brutal gang members should not disturb anyone.

Person dominating thread with a hundred silly arguments is likely an MS-13 member tasked with defending this man.

DP. For the 100th time (excuse the shouting), NO ONE IS AGAINST DEPORTING ACTUAL GANG MEMBERS!

Yet the left is doing a full press court to defend an actual gang member who was here illegally. With all the issues that Van Hollen could be focused on, and could spend taxpayer money on, he is choosing THIS. So explain why defending this guy is more important than anything else.

Is this source "the left" ?
https://www.nationalreview.com/bench-memos/stephen-millers-brazen-misrepresentation-of-abrego-garcia-ruling/

WFB Jr's son took over NR when he died and NR stopped being considered a fully right wing medium.

Oh, conservatives still gotta bend the knee

? You asked if it is right wing. It's not anymore, not entirely.

Ok so is there a right wing source with intelligent legal analysis? That is not Fox News? Or does such a thing not actually exist?

DP to add, I am genuinely asking. I intentionally consume news from different view points. Fox News website is not intellectual to me though, although I do check their headlines and peruse their articles, they frequently leave stuff out or do not bother reporting certain stories whatsoever. Is this the best the right has, intellectually speaking?

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Anonymous wrote:As a former Marylander, Van Hollen is way off base here. MS-13 is inside the schools, girls are being kidnapped and trafficked, rival teens are being lured into the woods and stabbed to death. A poor kid was murdered at Lake Forest mall for the crime of wearing a shirt the wrong color. This gang has gutted the once thriving communities of Montgomery Village, Germantown, and much of Gaithersburg. Who exactly is Van Hollen appealing to or protecting? The vast majority of the victims of MS-13 are Hispanic teens. This isn't a white vs POC thing. This is a criminal vs peaceful person thing. He needs to get a clue and talk to Maryland parents who've had pieces of their children returned to them in bags.

A girl's body was found along the C&O Canal in the vicinity of Chain Bridge a few years ago. She was Hispanic. Her body had been cut up into pieces. A young man was also found murdered and dismembered along the C&O Canal a few years ago. Law enforcement found MS-13 insignia in the woods close to where this young man's body was found. Any reasonable person with their head screwed on straight understands the animals who committed these crimes do not belong in our communities.

MS-13 is a murderous gang known for drug dealing and human trafficking. The manner in which the two above young people were murdered indicates at the very least extreme psychopathy. They are a public menace.

I am not happy with a lot of Trump's actions, but deporting brutal gang members should not disturb anyone.

Person dominating thread with a hundred silly arguments is likely an MS-13 member tasked with defending this man.

DP. For the 100th time (excuse the shouting), NO ONE IS AGAINST DEPORTING ACTUAL GANG MEMBERS!

Yet the left is doing a full press court to defend an actual gang member who was here illegally. With all the issues that Van Hollen could be focused on, and could spend taxpayer money on, he is choosing THIS. So explain why defending this guy is more important than anything else.

Is this source "the left" ?
https://www.nationalreview.com/bench-memos/stephen-millers-brazen-misrepresentation-of-abrego-garcia-ruling/

WFB Jr's son took over NR when he died and NR stopped being considered a fully right wing medium.

Oh, conservatives still gotta bend the knee

? You asked if it is right wing. It's not anymore, not entirely.

Ok so is there a right wing source with intelligent legal analysis? That is not Fox News? Or does such a thing not actually exist?

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Van Hollen will not be able to use this to run for President. This whole thing is crazy. This gentleman being held in El Salvador’s wife was interviewed by Michael Strahan on ABC today and he asked her if she was in fear of her husband and she would not answer. Have no idea what is going on but this does not look good.

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Anonymous wrote:As a former Marylander, Van Hollen is way off base here. MS-13 is inside the schools, girls are being kidnapped and trafficked, rival teens are being lured into the woods and stabbed to death. A poor kid was murdered at Lake Forest mall for the crime of wearing a shirt the wrong color. This gang has gutted the once thriving communities of Montgomery Village, Germantown, and much of Gaithersburg. Who exactly is Van Hollen appealing to or protecting? The vast majority of the victims of MS-13 are Hispanic teens. This isn't a white vs POC thing. This is a criminal vs peaceful person thing. He needs to get a clue and talk to Maryland parents who've had pieces of their children returned to them in bags.

A girl's body was found along the C&O Canal in the vicinity of Chain Bridge a few years ago. She was Hispanic. Her body had been cut up into pieces. A young man was also found murdered and dismembered along the C&O Canal a few years ago. Law enforcement found MS-13 insignia in the woods close to where this young man's body was found. Any reasonable person with their head screwed on straight understands the animals who committed these crimes do not belong in our communities.

MS-13 is a murderous gang known for drug dealing and human trafficking. The manner in which the two above young people were murdered indicates at the very least extreme psychopathy. They are a public menace.

I am not happy with a lot of Trump's actions, but deporting brutal gang members should not disturb anyone.

Person dominating thread with a hundred silly arguments is likely an MS-13 member tasked with defending this man.

DP. For the 100th time (excuse the shouting), NO ONE IS AGAINST DEPORTING ACTUAL GANG MEMBERS!

Yet the left is doing a full press court to defend an actual gang member who was here illegally. With all the issues that Van Hollen could be focused on, and could spend taxpayer money on, he is choosing THIS. So explain why defending this guy is more important than anything else.

Is this source "the left" ?
https://www.nationalreview.com/bench-memos/stephen-millers-brazen-misrepresentation-of-abrego-garcia-ruling/

WFB Jr's son took over NR when he died and NR stopped being considered a fully right wing medium.

Oh, conservatives still gotta bend the knee

? You asked if it is right wing. It's not anymore, not entirely.

Ok so is there a right wing source with intelligent legal analysis? That is not Fox News? Or does such a thing not actually exist?

WSJ is among the less awful ones. Not a high bar though.

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Anonymous wrote:As a former Marylander, Van Hollen is way off base here. MS-13 is inside the schools, girls are being kidnapped and trafficked, rival teens are being lured into the woods and stabbed to death. A poor kid was murdered at Lake Forest mall for the crime of wearing a shirt the wrong color. This gang has gutted the once thriving communities of Montgomery Village, Germantown, and much of Gaithersburg. Who exactly is Van Hollen appealing to or protecting? The vast majority of the victims of MS-13 are Hispanic teens. This isn't a white vs POC thing. This is a criminal vs peaceful person thing. He needs to get a clue and talk to Maryland parents who've had pieces of their children returned to them in bags.

A girl's body was found along the C&O Canal in the vicinity of Chain Bridge a few years ago. She was Hispanic. Her body had been cut up into pieces. A young man was also found murdered and dismembered along the C&O Canal a few years ago. Law enforcement found MS-13 insignia in the woods close to where this young man's body was found. Any reasonable person with their head screwed on straight understands the animals who committed these crimes do not belong in our communities.

MS-13 is a murderous gang known for drug dealing and human trafficking. The manner in which the two above young people were murdered indicates at the very least extreme psychopathy. They are a public menace.

I am not happy with a lot of Trump's actions, but deporting brutal gang members should not disturb anyone.

Person dominating thread with a hundred silly arguments is likely an MS-13 member tasked with defending this man.

DP. For the 100th time (excuse the shouting), NO ONE IS AGAINST DEPORTING ACTUAL GANG MEMBERS!

Yet the left is doing a full press court to defend an actual gang member who was here illegally. With all the issues that Van Hollen could be focused on, and could spend taxpayer money on, he is choosing THIS. So explain why defending this guy is more important than anything else.

Is this source "the left" ?
https://www.nationalreview.com/bench-memos/stephen-millers-brazen-misrepresentation-of-abrego-garcia-ruling/

WFB Jr's son took over NR when he died and NR stopped being considered a fully right wing medium.

Oh, conservatives still gotta bend the knee

? You asked if it is right wing. It's not anymore, not entirely.

Ok so is there a right wing source with intelligent legal analysis? That is not Fox News? Or does such a thing not actually exist?

WSJ is among the less awful ones. Not a high bar though.

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Anonymous wrote:As a former Marylander, Van Hollen is way off base here. MS-13 is inside the schools, girls are being kidnapped and trafficked, rival teens are being lured into the woods and stabbed to death. A poor kid was murdered at Lake Forest mall for the crime of wearing a shirt the wrong color. This gang has gutted the once thriving communities of Montgomery Village, Germantown, and much of Gaithersburg. Who exactly is Van Hollen appealing to or protecting? The vast majority of the victims of MS-13 are Hispanic teens. This isn't a white vs POC thing. This is a criminal vs peaceful person thing. He needs to get a clue and talk to Maryland parents who've had pieces of their children returned to them in bags.

A girl's body was found along the C&O Canal in the vicinity of Chain Bridge a few years ago. She was Hispanic. Her body had been cut up into pieces. A young man was also found murdered and dismembered along the C&O Canal a few years ago. Law enforcement found MS-13 insignia in the woods close to where this young man's body was found. Any reasonable person with their head screwed on straight understands the animals who committed these crimes do not belong in our communities.

MS-13 is a murderous gang known for drug dealing and human trafficking. The manner in which the two above young people were murdered indicates at the very least extreme psychopathy. They are a public menace.

I am not happy with a lot of Trump's actions, but deporting brutal gang members should not disturb anyone.

Person dominating thread with a hundred silly arguments is likely an MS-13 member tasked with defending this man.

DP. For the 100th time (excuse the shouting), NO ONE IS AGAINST DEPORTING ACTUAL GANG MEMBERS!

Yet the left is doing a full press court to defend an actual gang member who was here illegally. With all the issues that Van Hollen could be focused on, and could spend taxpayer money on, he is choosing THIS. So explain why defending this guy is more important than anything else.

Is this source "the left" ?
https://www.nationalreview.com/bench-memos/stephen-millers-brazen-misrepresentation-of-abrego-garcia-ruling/

WFB Jr's son took over NR when he died and NR stopped being considered a fully right wing medium.

Oh, conservatives still gotta bend the knee

? You asked if it is right wing. It's not anymore, not entirely.

Ok so is there a right wing source with intelligent legal analysis? That is not Fox News? Or does such a thing not actually exist?

WSJ is among the less awful ones. Not a high bar though. [/quote
WSj is very left wing.

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Anonymous wrote:As a former Marylander, Van Hollen is way off base here. MS-13 is inside the schools, girls are being kidnapped and trafficked, rival teens are being lured into the woods and stabbed to death. A poor kid was murdered at Lake Forest mall for the crime of wearing a shirt the wrong color. This gang has gutted the once thriving communities of Montgomery Village, Germantown, and much of Gaithersburg. Who exactly is Van Hollen appealing to or protecting? The vast majority of the victims of MS-13 are Hispanic teens. This isn't a white vs POC thing. This is a criminal vs peaceful person thing. He needs to get a clue and talk to Maryland parents who've had pieces of their children returned to them in bags.

A girl's body was found along the C&O Canal in the vicinity of Chain Bridge a few years ago. She was Hispanic. Her body had been cut up into pieces. A young man was also found murdered and dismembered along the C&O Canal a few years ago. Law enforcement found MS-13 insignia in the woods close to where this young man's body was found. Any reasonable person with their head screwed on straight understands the animals who committed these crimes do not belong in our communities.

MS-13 is a murderous gang known for drug dealing and human trafficking. The manner in which the two above young people were murdered indicates at the very least extreme psychopathy. They are a public menace.

I am not happy with a lot of Trump's actions, but deporting brutal gang members should not disturb anyone.

Person dominating thread with a hundred silly arguments is likely an MS-13 member tasked with defending this man.

DP. For the 100th time (excuse the shouting), NO ONE IS AGAINST DEPORTING ACTUAL GANG MEMBERS!

Yet the left is doing a full press court to defend an actual gang member who was here illegally. With all the issues that Van Hollen could be focused on, and could spend taxpayer money on, he is choosing THIS. So explain why defending this guy is more important than anything else.

Is this source "the left" ?
https://www.nationalreview.com/bench-memos/stephen-millers-brazen-misrepresentation-of-abrego-garcia-ruling/

WFB Jr's son took over NR when he died and NR stopped being considered a fully right wing medium.

Oh, conservatives still gotta bend the knee

? You asked if it is right wing. It's not anymore, not entirely.

Ok so is there a right wing source with intelligent legal analysis? That is not Fox News? Or does such a thing not actually exist?

WSJ is among the less awful ones. Not a high bar though. [/quote
WSj is very left wing.

but the editorial page is conservative.