Lockdown at Blair?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A kid is incessantly bullied because he is short. Snaps. Brings a knife and stabs another student. Thankfully the other student didn't die. How could this have been avoided? Did we fail the kids by de-escalating? Parents, teachers, others? What can we do better? Let's not make this a political/culture war issue. Some empathy will go a long way...parent of a blair kid here.

Get the stabber some help for his mental health

So where were the mental health counselors that the county touted as the replacement for SROs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A kid is incessantly bullied because he is short. Snaps. Brings a knife and stabs another student. Thankfully the other student didn't die. How could this have been avoided? Did we fail the kids by de-escalating? Parents, teachers, others? What can we do better? Let's not make this a political/culture war issue. Some empathy will go a long way...parent of a blair kid here.

Get the stabber some help for his mental health

It’s a bit late for that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A kid is incessantly bullied because he is short. Snaps. Brings a knife and stabs another student. Thankfully the other student didn't die. How could this have been avoided? Did we fail the kids by de-escalating? Parents, teachers, others? What can we do better? Let's not make this a political/culture war issue. Some empathy will go a long way...parent of a blair kid here.

Get the stabber some help for his mental health

So where were the mental health counselors that the county touted as the replacement for SROs?

They did not hire more and what do you think a therapist will do? You think these kids are going to go to the counselor for help. Right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Once again, answer the question.. why do Principals want SROs? Why did the Blair Principal want the cops there after the incident?

Why do you anti-SROs NEVER answer that question?

Also, why don't you go volunteer in the HSs where there have been some serious incidents and deal with those kids. There are security guards there, but that doesn't seem to be reducing the number of serious incidents. So, why don't you go there and do something about it since you don't want SROs there.

Presumably because they believe the SROs are helpful to them, no? What's your point? Do you support everything principals want, or just this one thing?

My point is that Principals are the ones in the hallways every school day, not you, not Elrich and not the BOE. So, they know what's needed. not you or Elrich. If the Principals say that SROs make the schools overall safer, then I back them up.

Why don't you go volunteer and deal with the 200lb 6' 16 yr old who is causing issues in the classroom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A kid is incessantly bullied because he is short. Snaps. Brings a knife and stabs another student. Thankfully the other student didn't die. How could this have been avoided? Did we fail the kids by de-escalating? Parents, teachers, others? What can we do better? Let's not make this a political/culture war issue. Some empathy will go a long way...parent of a blair kid here.

Get the stabber some help for his mental health

So where were the mental health counselors that the county touted as the replacement for SROs?

They did not hire more and what do you think a therapist will do? You think these kids are going to go to the counselor for help. Right.

That's my point. The county couldn't even implement their plan. They said they'd hire more counselors and psychologists to replace the SROs but clearly failed in that regard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A kid is incessantly bullied because he is short. Snaps. Brings a knife and stabs another student. Thankfully the other student didn't die. How could this have been avoided? Did we fail the kids by de-escalating? Parents, teachers, others? What can we do better? Let's not make this a political/culture war issue. Some empathy will go a long way...parent of a blair kid here.

Get the stabber some help for his mental health

So where were the mental health counselors that the county touted as the replacement for SROs?

They did not hire more and what do you think a therapist will do? You think these kids are going to go to the counselor for help. Right.

+1 therapy is not a one time panacea. It takes a lot of time for therapy to make a dent. In the meantime, what should be done to keep our kids safe in the schools, and manage the students who disrupt the class so much that the other kids cannot learn?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A kid is incessantly bullied because he is short. Snaps. Brings a knife and stabs another student. Thankfully the other student didn't die. How could this have been avoided? Did we fail the kids by de-escalating? Parents, teachers, others? What can we do better? Let's not make this a political/culture war issue. Some empathy will go a long way...parent of a blair kid here.

Get the stabber some help for his mental health

So where were the mental health counselors that the county touted as the replacement for SROs?

They did not hire more and what do you think a therapist will do? You think these kids are going to go to the counselor for help. Right.

That's my point. The county couldn't even implement their plan. They said they'd hire more counselors and psychologists to replace the SROs but clearly failed in that regard.

I stated up thread (or the other thread).. the county and MCPS are CRAP at execution. They are all talk and fluff, and zero action.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A kid is incessantly bullied because he is short. Snaps. Brings a knife and stabs another student. Thankfully the other student didn't die. How could this have been avoided? Did we fail the kids by de-escalating? Parents, teachers, others? What can we do better? Let's not make this a political/culture war issue. Some empathy will go a long way...parent of a blair kid here.

Get the stabber some help for his mental health

So where were the mental health counselors that the county touted as the replacement for SROs?

They did not hire more and what do you think a therapist will do? You think these kids are going to go to the counselor for help. Right.

+1 therapy is not a one time panacea. It takes a lot of time for therapy to make a dent. In the meantime, what should be done to keep our kids safe in the schools, and manage the students who disrupt the class so much that the other kids cannot learn?

It’s funny how you guys think an SRO can prevent crimes by being the kids buddy. But counselors can’t do the same thing.

[Anonymous]

The county can't hire anyone. There's no one to be hired. In large part because they aren't looking.

[Anonymous]

Blair is out of control. Kids stabbing. Magnet Pre Cal A teacher does not want to teach, arrogant, and no one from school wants to take any action that impacted marking period 1 grades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A kid is incessantly bullied because he is short. Snaps. Brings a knife and stabs another student. Thankfully the other student didn't die. How could this have been avoided? Did we fail the kids by de-escalating? Parents, teachers, others? What can we do better? Let's not make this a political/culture war issue. Some empathy will go a long way...parent of a blair kid here.

Get the stabber some help for his mental health

So where were the mental health counselors that the county touted as the replacement for SROs?

They did not hire more and what do you think a therapist will do? You think these kids are going to go to the counselor for help. Right.

+1 therapy is not a one time panacea. It takes a lot of time for therapy to make a dent. In the meantime, what should be done to keep our kids safe in the schools, and manage the students who disrupt the class so much that the other kids cannot learn?

It’s funny how you guys think an SRO can prevent crimes by being the kids buddy. But counselors can’t do the same thing.

It's funny how you guys can't answer the question of what should be done with the disruptive kids, and why you won't go volunteer in the hallways and classrooms and deal with these students if you think all they need is a buddy. I never once said that SRO being buddies was the answer. I did state that some SROs have established relationships with students and that can help. But, SRO presence is also a deterent. Again, why do you think Principals want them at the HSs?

Ask a HS teacher how it is for them when there is a repeat disrupter in the class.

Are you even a parent? What would you do if there was a student in your kid's class who disrupted the class everyday such that your kid can't learn, or worse, the student harrassed your kid such that your kid was afraid to go to school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Once again, answer the question.. why do Principals want SROs? Why did the Blair Principal want the cops there after the incident?

Why do you anti-SROs NEVER answer that question?

Also, why don't you go volunteer in the HSs where there have been some serious incidents and deal with those kids. There are security guards there, but that doesn't seem to be reducing the number of serious incidents. So, why don't you go there and do something about it since you don't want SROs there.

Presumably because they believe the SROs are helpful to them, no? What's your point? Do you support everything principals want, or just this one thing?

My point is that Principals are the ones in the hallways every school day, not you, not Elrich and not the BOE. So, they know what's needed. not you or Elrich. If the Principals say that SROs make the schools overall safer, then I back them up.

Why don't you go volunteer and deal with the 200lb 6' 16 yr old who is causing issues in the classroom.

Sure, but the students are also in the hallways every school day, and the push to remove the SROs came from the students. The students said that the SROs do NOT make the schools overall safer. Do you back them up or not?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
It's funny how you guys can't answer the question of what should be done with the disruptive kids, and why you won't go volunteer in the hallways and classrooms and deal with these students if you think all they need is a buddy. I never once said that SRO being buddies was the answer. I did state that some SROs have established relationships with students and that can help. But, SRO presence is also a deterent. Again, why do you think Principals want them at the HSs?

Ask a HS teacher how it is for them when there is a repeat disrupter in the class.

Are you even a parent? What would you do if there was a student in your kid's class who disrupted the class everyday such that your kid can't learn, or worse, the student harrassed your kid such that your kid was afraid to go to school?

Poster 1: *asks question*
Poster 2: *answers question*
Poster 3: *answers question*
Poster 4: *answers question*
Poster 5: *answers question*
Poster 1: NOBODY HAS ANSWERED MY QUESTION.

(This is a common occurrence on DCUM.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A kid is incessantly bullied because he is short. Snaps. Brings a knife and stabs another student. Thankfully the other student didn't die. How could this have been avoided? Did we fail the kids by de-escalating? Parents, teachers, others? What can we do better? Let's not make this a political/culture war issue. Some empathy will go a long way...parent of a blair kid here.

Get the stabber some help for his mental health

So where were the mental health counselors that the county touted as the replacement for SROs?

They did not hire more and what do you think a therapist will do? You think these kids are going to go to the counselor for help. Right.

+1 therapy is not a one time panacea. It takes a lot of time for therapy to make a dent. In the meantime, what should be done to keep our kids safe in the schools, and manage the students who disrupt the class so much that the other kids cannot learn?

You’d also have to have the parents participate and make changes at both home and school. It’s not as simple as just a few sessions at school. Many of these kids were failed early on so you need to focus on supporting kids early on at the elementary level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A kid is incessantly bullied because he is short. Snaps. Brings a knife and stabs another student. Thankfully the other student didn't die. How could this have been avoided? Did we fail the kids by de-escalating? Parents, teachers, others? What can we do better? Let's not make this a political/culture war issue. Some empathy will go a long way...parent of a blair kid here.

Get the stabber some help for his mental health

It’s a bit late for that.

Yep. Too late for mental health intervention. Someone who can break up fights (SRO?). Consequences for bad behavior (suspensions). AA/Hispanic/minorities constitute the majority of the school. So parents have to co-operate and not just dismiss discipline as being racist.