Lockdown at Blair?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A kid is incessantly bullied because he is short. Snaps. Brings a knife and stabs another student. Thankfully the other student didn't die. How could this have been avoided? Did we fail the kids by de-escalating? Parents, teachers, others? What can we do better? Let's not make this a political/culture war issue. Some empathy will go a long way...parent of a blair kid here.

Get the stabber some help for his mental health

It’s a bit late for that.

Yep. Too late for mental health intervention. Someone who can break up fights (SRO?). Consequences for bad behavior (suspensions). AA/Hispanic/minorities constitute the majority of the school. So parents have to co-operate and not just dismiss discipline as being racist.

Yes. Security. That's what the security people are for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A kid is incessantly bullied because he is short. Snaps. Brings a knife and stabs another student. Thankfully the other student didn't die. How could this have been avoided? Did we fail the kids by de-escalating? Parents, teachers, others? What can we do better? Let's not make this a political/culture war issue. Some empathy will go a long way...parent of a blair kid here.

Get the stabber some help for his mental health

It’s a bit late for that.

Weird when a white kids commits assault with a deadly weapon they are described as mentally unstable and needing help. See the Churchill thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
it's not ignored. People acknowledged that there are some cops who are bad, and that those cops should be removed from the schools, but that doesn't mean all SROs are bad and should be removed. I'm sure you would not want a certain group to be painted with a broad brush. Why don't you give the same courtesy to other groups?

And the anti-sro folks have never once answered the question of why Principals want SROs in the school, and whether they would call the cops if someone was trying to hurt their kids.

I will take the word of the people who deal with these kids everyday over the words of someone who sits in an office behind a desk most of the day.

I'd like to see these folks in the schools and actually deal with a belligerent student who is disruptive and possibly threatening others. Please.. show us how it's done.

Actually, they have. Principals don't have the resources to handle things in-house and want to hand off the difficult kids to MCPD. Unfortunately, police routinely hide behind qualified immunity or stand together in that "blue line", with no meaningful consequences for any bad behavior.

Give the principals more MCPS resources, especially more mental health support for the students. They're stretched way too thin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Blair is out of control. Kids stabbing. Magnet Pre Cal A teacher does not want to teach, arrogant, and no one from school wants to take any action that impacted marking period 1 grades.

Buh-bye.

[Anonymous]

So does the bully not get consequences for bullying because he got stabbed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
it's not ignored. People acknowledged that there are some cops who are bad, and that those cops should be removed from the schools, but that doesn't mean all SROs are bad and should be removed. I'm sure you would not want a certain group to be painted with a broad brush. Why don't you give the same courtesy to other groups?

And the anti-sro folks have never once answered the question of why Principals want SROs in the school, and whether they would call the cops if someone was trying to hurt their kids.

I will take the word of the people who deal with these kids everyday over the words of someone who sits in an office behind a desk most of the day.

I'd like to see these folks in the schools and actually deal with a belligerent student who is disruptive and possibly threatening others. Please.. show us how it's done.

Actually, they have. Principals don't have the resources to handle things in-house and want to hand off the difficult kids to MCPD. Unfortunately, police routinely hide behind qualified immunity or stand together in that "blue line", with no meaningful consequences for any bad behavior.

Give the principals more MCPS resources, especially more mental health support for the students. They're stretched way too thin.

who has what?

Principals don't have the resources.. yes, that's why they want SROs. School staff are already stretched thin. We shouldn't be asking them to do more. "Give the Principals more resources".. sure, but that isn't happening. We had SROs. Bring them back until MCPS does provide the right kind of resources to the schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Blair is out of control. Kids stabbing. Magnet Pre Cal A teacher does not want to teach, arrogant, and no one from school wants to take any action that impacted marking period 1 grades.

Buh-bye.

I know but it's still much safer than the W's with all their stabbings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A kid is incessantly bullied because he is short. Snaps. Brings a knife and stabs another student. Thankfully the other student didn't die. How could this have been avoided? Did we fail the kids by de-escalating? Parents, teachers, others? What can we do better? Let's not make this a political/culture war issue. Some empathy will go a long way...parent of a blair kid here.

Get the stabber some help for his mental health

It’s a bit late for that.

Weird when a white kids commits assault with a deadly weapon they are described as mentally unstable and needing help. See the Churchill thread.

You and your race baiting are so tiresome.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A kid is incessantly bullied because he is short. Snaps. Brings a knife and stabs another student. Thankfully the other student didn't die. How could this have been avoided? Did we fail the kids by de-escalating? Parents, teachers, others? What can we do better? Let's not make this a political/culture war issue. Some empathy will go a long way...parent of a blair kid here.

Get the stabber some help for his mental health

It’s a bit late for that.

Weird when a white kids commits assault with a deadly weapon they are described as mentally unstable and needing help. See the Churchill thread.

You and your race baiting are so tiresome.

Go figure: America in the '20s.

[Anonymous]

I wonder, if the student posts bail, will he be back at school ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder, if the student posts bail, will he be back at school ?

they will probably move him to another school, so now that school has a violent person they have to deal with, with no SROs. Spread the problem around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
it's not ignored. People acknowledged that there are some cops who are bad, and that those cops should be removed from the schools, but that doesn't mean all SROs are bad and should be removed. I'm sure you would not want a certain group to be painted with a broad brush. Why don't you give the same courtesy to other groups?

And the anti-sro folks have never once answered the question of why Principals want SROs in the school, and whether they would call the cops if someone was trying to hurt their kids.

I will take the word of the people who deal with these kids everyday over the words of someone who sits in an office behind a desk most of the day.

I'd like to see these folks in the schools and actually deal with a belligerent student who is disruptive and possibly threatening others. Please.. show us how it's done.

Actually, they have. Principals don't have the resources to handle things in-house and want to hand off the difficult kids to MCPD. Unfortunately, police routinely hide behind qualified immunity or stand together in that "blue line", with no meaningful consequences for any bad behavior.

Give the principals more MCPS resources, especially more mental health support for the students. They're stretched way too thin.

who has what?

Principals don't have the resources.. yes, that's why they want SROs. School staff are already stretched thin. We shouldn't be asking them to do more. "Give the Principals more resources".. sure, but that isn't happening. We had SROs. Bring them back until MCPS does provide the right kind of resources to the schools.

Well yes of course White people want that, they are not the ones who face the brunt of police harassment.

Activists have fought to get police out of schools because SROs are, on net, bad for students of color. It may be a solution that serves White people well but thankfully our decision makers aren't just taking White people into account.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Again, this has nothing to do with what parents are concerned about in this thread. You can pursue this in another thread, I very much agree with you that it's an important issue and will help with trust in communities. But reforming the police has NOTHING to do with bullying and harassment of students (and teachers) in the classroom, so please don't try to change the subject and push your agenda. If it had something to do with it, the fact that the SROs are gone should have increased trust and consequently made behavior better in schools, but it seems to have had the opposite effect.

There's at least one poster on this thread who is extremely concerned about the removal of the SROs. And police accountability (or lack of it) is why the SROs were removed. It's impossible to have a serious discussion about the SROs without talking about police accountability (or lack of it).

False. There haven't been any issues with SROs in MoCo. Street cops are an entirely different thing. Woke lunatics simply hate anything police related so they conflated SROs and street cops as part of the defund movement. Weekly stabbings are the result.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Student activism drove much of the anti-SRO movement. Students of color say that they don't feel safe with SROs in the schools.

but maybe other kids feel safer with SROs, and certainly, the Principals wanted to keep the SROs.

It's a movement. People who like them come from a position of privilege, so their feelings of safety don't trump those students of color who are fearful of SROs and more likely that non-POC to be arrested. SROs are police and the argument is that police don't belong in schools.

Are they also more likely to commit crimes that lead to these arrests?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
it's not ignored. People acknowledged that there are some cops who are bad, and that those cops should be removed from the schools, but that doesn't mean all SROs are bad and should be removed. I'm sure you would not want a certain group to be painted with a broad brush. Why don't you give the same courtesy to other groups?

And the anti-sro folks have never once answered the question of why Principals want SROs in the school, and whether they would call the cops if someone was trying to hurt their kids.

I will take the word of the people who deal with these kids everyday over the words of someone who sits in an office behind a desk most of the day.

I'd like to see these folks in the schools and actually deal with a belligerent student who is disruptive and possibly threatening others. Please.. show us how it's done.

Actually, they have. Principals don't have the resources to handle things in-house and want to hand off the difficult kids to MCPD. Unfortunately, police routinely hide behind qualified immunity or stand together in that "blue line", with no meaningful consequences for any bad behavior.

Give the principals more MCPS resources, especially more mental health support for the students. They're stretched way too thin.

who has what?

Principals don't have the resources.. yes, that's why they want SROs. School staff are already stretched thin. We shouldn't be asking them to do more. "Give the Principals more resources".. sure, but that isn't happening. We had SROs. Bring them back until MCPS does provide the right kind of resources to the schools.

Well yes of course White people want that, they are not the ones who face the brunt of police harassment.

Activists have fought to get police out of schools because SROs are, on net, bad for students of color. It may be a solution that serves White people well but thankfully our decision makers aren't just taking White people into account.

Activists will he blames for what is going on now, since they got SROs until of school and tye shit has started hitting the fan.
SrOs are being brought BACK in to schools in many states because it was such a bad idea in practice.