Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html

The left doesn’t own this person. What about his MAGA parents?


Try again. The left wanted Kirk dead. MAGA didn't.


Please cite real, verifiable sources for this. There certainly is plenty of evidence the far alt-right were after him. Where are the death threats from the "left"? Exactly WHO do you mean by "the left". Where did "they" call for his death, versus vehemently disagreeing with him.

This is a huge accusation you are making. What is your specific and verifiable proof?


The groypers hated Kirk. You could say it was right wing Internet gang violence. White on white crime. So does it really count?


Exactly. The threats came from the alt-right. And Utah is so full of leftist organizations? Are you kidding me?

But MAGA will lap this stuff up. Anything to keep peddling hate.


Troll


I think the shooter was being the ultimate troll. But it won't matter. MAGA and the GOP will spin and spin to keep trying to hurt people all while shouting about how "the left" hurts people.

MAGA = projection and hypocrisy. It goes way back beyond this one murder and will continue into the future no matter how many denials you make.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html

The left doesn’t own this person. What about his MAGA parents?


Try again. The left wanted Kirk dead. MAGA didn't.


Are you sure about that. The alt-alt right seems like they do.

Sad there are so many groups that hate this guy it’s impossible to pin it on one group.


Not really. Go read the news or get out of your bubble. Most people left, center and right did not hate Kirk.

The small uninformed factions that hate Kirk are alt alt left.

For me this has nothing to do with Kirk, right or left. It’s just time for change. You would think once such a gun advocate was murdered, shot, we would wake up and attempt to change something, anything.


Can’t wait to find out the level of demonization and radicalization that went on in internet chat groups with Tyler on this. Plus after the shooting.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html


Correct
Leftist and liked D.


Yes. He was in a romantic relationship with him roommate who was in the process of transitioning from male to female.

At the end of the day, I don’t care about his politics. He is a deeply evil human being.

What I care about is that Charlie’s wife is now a widow and his two children have to grow up without a father. I care that they were in attendance and saw the murder of their husband/father.

It’s been so amazing to see how much Charlie Kirk inspired the world. There have been vigils all around the world in many different countries. I know Charlie would be so humbled by this.

Make no mistake, Charlie was assassinated because he was getting through to the younger generation. His influence was huge. He is a martyr. He is gone but his name and influence will live on forever.


His murder was wrong. Period. But he was also wrong and not a good person. No true Christian / follower of Jesus' teachings would have said all the horrible things he said.

He is not a martyr; he was just good at manipulating people on social media. In fact, using the teachings of Jesus to preach hate and divisiveness makes him even worse than horrible. Hate in the name of Jesus. That's blasphemy.

I'm sorry you are one of the suckers. Perhaps if you pray on it, you will see the light.


That’s not what’s shown in most of the longer video clips/ unedited.

I hope someone else steps up to do in person group debates and talks.


Wrong. The edited video clips make him out to be this stand up affirmative guy. It's the long-form that show the truth. Just another performer out to make money.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote: If he killed Kirk because Kirk wasn’t conservative enough, and he was even farther right than maga - then it would make zero sense for his closest friend and roommate, to whom he asked to assist in retrieving the murder weapon and shared plans with, would be a transperson or even a just a straight non-maga. It also makes zero sense to text the roommate what he texted him, unless the roommate already knew the plans.


There are gay and trans MAGA, you know that right? Like Nick Fuentes who this kid appeared to pay attention to.


Yes we know, this is a violence and radicalization issue.
Kirk talks even on Christianity don’t attack trans, he was supportive of all of them and forthright on his values as a Christian, conservative, patriot, constitutionalist.


Oh come on, I’m sorry he was murdered but for the love of Christ stop sanitizing this guy. Here's Charlie Kirk calling trans people an "abomination" and telling men to "handle" them like they did in the 60's, directly encouraging violence.
https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/tpusas-charlie-kirk-trans-people

Here's Charlie Kirk saying “We need to have a Nuremberg-style trial for every gender-affirming clinic doctor”
https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/charlie-kirk-we-need-have-nuremberg-style-trial-every-gender-affirming-clinic-doctor
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html

The left doesn’t own this person. What about his MAGA parents?


Try again. The left wanted Kirk dead. MAGA didn't.


Please cite real, verifiable sources for this. There certainly is plenty of evidence the far alt-right were after him. Where are the death threats from the "left"? Exactly WHO do you mean by "the left". Where did "they" call for his death, versus vehemently disagreeing with him.

This is a huge accusation you are making. What is your specific and verifiable proof?


The groypers hated Kirk. You could say it was right wing Internet gang violence. White on white crime. So does it really count?


Exactly. The threats came from the alt-right. And Utah is so full of leftist organizations? Are you kidding me?

But MAGA will lap this stuff up. Anything to keep peddling hate.


Troll


I think the shooter was being the ultimate troll. But it won't matter. MAGA and the GOP will spin and spin to keep trying to hurt people all while shouting about how "the left" hurts people.

MAGA = projection and hypocrisy. It goes way back beyond this one murder and will continue into the future no matter how many denials you make.

Agree the shooter, the roommate, many young people are so desensitized. Everything is satire. That’s why I am doubting the trans angle. The were probably mocking trans people.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html

The left doesn’t own this person. What about his MAGA parents?


He killed a “MAGA” figure. He isn’t “MAGA” and his parents’ political affiliation doesn’t matter. Nor does them owning guns matter. Many people own guns and most adults are capable of buying a hunting rifle at any time they wish. This is 100% to do with whatever online gaming communities he was involved in that egged him on. The roommate seems to have been a part of that as well. If you seriously think Kirk was shot bc the killer didn’t find him to be “mega” enough, that is delusional


So parents don't matter in regards to how their children turn out?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html

The left doesn’t own this person. What about his MAGA parents?


Try again. The left wanted Kirk dead. MAGA didn't.


His MAGA, gun nut parents failed him.


They did. His parents let him go to a leftist college that brainwashed him.

But the parents buying machine guns for their child’s birthday are not brainwashed? What are they?


There is no evidence that the shooter ever possessed a machine gun, let alone received one as a birthday gift.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html

The left doesn’t own this person. What about his MAGA parents?


Try again. The left wanted Kirk dead. MAGA didn't.


Please cite real, verifiable sources for this. There certainly is plenty of evidence the far alt-right were after him. Where are the death threats from the "left"? Exactly WHO do you mean by "the left". Where did "they" call for his death, versus vehemently disagreeing with him.

This is a huge accusation you are making. What is your specific and verifiable proof?


Try and keep up, again. Every major news outlet has tons of articles about legiobn of Dems being fired for celebrating his murder.


They have articles about MAGAs like Loomer starting websites to have people report on this. Show the videos if there are so many of them. Many of the firings and blowback have been people simply using Kirks own words.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The gun nuts blame everything and anything other than themselves. It’s always someone else’s fault. No one but the shooter is responsible for his actions, not the roommate, not the online radical group, although I definitely blame his parents in this case.


Trump was shot, for crying out loud. Still nothing changes, not even the rhetoric, because they are brainwashed in gun culture.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html

The left doesn’t own this person. What about his MAGA parents?


Try again. The left wanted Kirk dead. MAGA didn't.


Are you sure about that. The alt-alt right seems like they do.

Sad there are so many groups that hate this guy it’s impossible to pin it on one group.


Not really. Go read the news or get out of your bubble. Most people left, center and right did not hate Kirk.

The small uninformed factions that hate Kirk are alt alt left.

For me this has nothing to do with Kirk, right or left. It’s just time for change. You would think once such a gun advocate was murdered, shot, we would wake up and attempt to change something, anything.


Can’t wait to find out the level of demonization and radicalization that went on in internet chat groups with Tyler on this. Plus after the shooting.


Ok so what… he still used a gun.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html

The left doesn’t own this person. What about his MAGA parents?


Try again. The left wanted Kirk dead. MAGA didn't.


His MAGA, gun nut parents failed him.


They did. His parents let him go to a leftist college that brainwashed him.

But the parents buying machine guns for their child’s birthday are not brainwashed? What are they?


There is no evidence that the shooter ever possessed a machine gun, let alone received one as a birthday gift.

Well he has pics with some huge guns. Is that supposed to be impressive?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html

The left doesn’t own this person. What about his MAGA parents?


Try again. The left wanted Kirk dead. MAGA didn't.


Are you sure about that. The alt-alt right seems like they do.

Sad there are so many groups that hate this guy it’s impossible to pin it on one group.


Not really. Go read the news or get out of your bubble. Most people left, center and right did not hate Kirk.

The small uninformed factions that hate Kirk are alt alt left.


Nick Fuentes and the groypers are not alt left. They are right wing nut jobs. Basically, middle of the road MAGA.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html

The left doesn’t own this person. What about his MAGA parents?


He killed a “MAGA” figure. He isn’t “MAGA” and his parents’ political affiliation doesn’t matter. Nor does them owning guns matter. Many people own guns and most adults are capable of buying a hunting rifle at any time they wish. This is 100% to do with whatever online gaming communities he was involved in that egged him on. The roommate seems to have been a part of that as well. If you seriously think Kirk was shot bc the killer didn’t find him to be “mega” enough, that is delusional


So parents don't matter in regards to how their children turn out?


Do you have all the exact same views as your parents?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html

The left doesn’t own this person. What about his MAGA parents?


He killed a “MAGA” figure. He isn’t “MAGA” and his parents’ political affiliation doesn’t matter. Nor does them owning guns matter. Many people own guns and most adults are capable of buying a hunting rifle at any time they wish. This is 100% to do with whatever online gaming communities he was involved in that egged him on. The roommate seems to have been a part of that as well. If you seriously think Kirk was shot bc the killer didn’t find him to be “mega” enough, that is delusional


So parents don't matter in regards to how their children turn out?


Do you have all the exact same views as your parents?

They introduced him to guns when he was a child, one could almost call this child abuse. Did Tyler have a choice?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So now, it is known that the shooter was:
1. A Leftist
2. Gay

How long will the left continue to deny their role here?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html

The left doesn’t own this person. What about his MAGA parents?


Try again. The left wanted Kirk dead. MAGA didn't.


His MAGA, gun nut parents failed him.


They did. His parents let him go to a leftist college that brainwashed him.

But the parents buying machine guns for their child’s birthday are not brainwashed? What are they?


There is no evidence that the shooter ever possessed a machine gun, let alone received one as a birthday gift.

Well he has pics with some huge guns. Is that supposed to be impressive?


I’m sure tons of people at that exhibition and others were interested in the things they saw, including the .50 machine gun. So far, precisely one of them has been linked to a political assassination. There are .50 machine guns in museums for people to look at.
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