Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
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Anonymous
Given all of the rich history of Ukraine going back millennia, it's wild that Russian propagandists still try to say dumb things like "Ukrainian is not a language, it's just a broken dialect of Russian" when that's clearly not true, or that "Ukrainians are not a people, they are just confused Russians" which is also clearly not true. They must count on their audiences being completely ignorant of history. |
Anonymous
| Winter is coming. The walls are closing in on Putin. |
Anonymous
You don't understand what I'm trying to say. Transcription isn't a fact, it's a convention. Like, someone can agree to transcribe Ж as j, and someone in another country can agree to transcribe it as ZH. Both are correct. Neither is a reflection of a unique or special quality. It's the same steak called two different names. Languages don't always have 100% corresponding letters so approximations must be picked, and that is a matter of judgment not fact. Ask Zelensky to pronounce his last name. Now ask a Russian guy named Zelensky to pronounce his last name. What do think are the differences that warrant differing transcriptions? None. It's just a convention. It's not a reflection of a different reality. The same convention that drove Western Armenians to spell their last name endings as "ian" and Eastern Armenians as "yan". It's the same sound. Why is it transcribed differently? Who knows. In fact, I would argue that the Eastern Armenian spelling is more accurate as it gives no room to wrong pronunciation like KarDASHee-an (in proper Armenian it is pronounced as KardashyAN, with the 'y' barely audible). You picked a wrong example with Gostomel/Hostomel. In Ukrainian it sounds like a very soft Г, not an English H, which is basically an exhalation sound. There is no equivalent letter in English for it so they have to pick between two approximations. |
Anonymous
I take it you meant not not now and your analysis now makes perfect sense. Thanks! Zelensky was not at all popular before the war. His popularity surged after the invasion. But it is flagging now as the cracks between him and the army, as well as him and the regional leaders (as well as the mayor of Kyiv) become evident. In fact, The Times just ran a long feature on how he is increasingly seen as autocratic and nondemocratic. |
Anonymous
Nope - Russian translators write it "Gostomel" because they write it Гостомель and to them there's zero nuance because Ґ simply does not exist, to them it's just Г. The only applicable transliteration Russians have is Gostomel, which again makes it a giveaway. But yes, there are better examples, such as Kyiv vs russianized Kiev, Lviv vs russianized Lvov, Kharkiv vs russianized Kharkov, Dnipro vs russianized Dnieper et cetera. Also, Armenian is a different story but there are in fact again phonetic, grammatic and vocabulary differences between Eastern and Western Armenian. |
Anonymous
There is a clear preference among Ukrainian speakers, but to ignorant/arrogant Russian speakers they don't recognize anything other than their own bias and it comes through in the reporting and propaganda as well. |
Anonymous
There are differences across Eastern and Western Armenian, true, but they do not extend to KarDASHEEan vs KardashYAN, they sound the same in both dialects. As to Gostomel/Hostomel, that's not quite true; Russian translators write it as Gostomel because in Russian the only choices they have is Г or X, and it sounds closer to the former than the latter. A native Russian ear would consider is an accented Г, which also exists in many parts of Russia. So it's not that they don't recognize the nuance in sound, it's that the letters available in Russian do not include a soft Г. That's not unique to Russian vs. Ukrainian. Many languages have sounds that are not accurately conveyable with the means of another language so we make approximations. Other examples you made make much better sense like Lvov vs Lviv as these are actually different words that sound differently. And to go back to the original example, Zelensky would say his name exactly the same in Russian and Ukrainian. |
Anonymous
There are actually nuanced differences between how it's said in Ukrainian vs Russian but either way either is an approximation because his family name was originally Ashkenazi Jewish Yiddish of "Grün" and then translated into Russian and Ukrainian. |
Anonymous
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Anonymous
Agree - Well said. |
Anonymous
| There's an old saying that a language is a dialect with an army. |
Anonymous
Why doesn’t Kiev mayor Klitschko’s adult son speak it? US passport holder too and “goes to school “ in UK, conveniently avoiding the front. |
Anonymous
Please explain these nuanced differences in pronunciation of Zelensky's name in Russian vs Ukrainian that would necessitate the double y. |
Anonymous
This is an asset to a comedian who is imitating playing piano with his penis on TV, not a president. |
Anonymous
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Things are definitely grim on the Ukrainian front.
Russians are willing to lose hundreds of thousands of men. It's absolutely bonkers. I mean how do you fight against suicidal people, particularly when they have nearly 4 times the population. In the longterm, Russia is absolutely wrecked. Their demographics are terrible. They've lost an entire generation of young men. Most of their military hardware is gone now. Literally, thousands of tanks. It's breathtaking how little Russians care for human life and their own strategic interests. I mean Poland would absolutely destroy Russia if they ever crossed the border. But this is a tough time for Ukraine. They are on the defense. Not supplying them is just heartbreaking. They are obviously very good fighters. But Republicans are what they are. Pro-Russian. Same with the far left. They seem to love Hamas, but not Ukraine. The situation is tragic. It is a very good argument, however, for the necessity of air dominance. The US would never fight this kind of war |