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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Hard working Americans that lay sheet rock today, frame homes, and roof, should not have to pay taxes to support a war effort that wealthy Ukranians turn their back on.

Ukraine is a not a country is a former province with a gas station.[/quote]

Spoken like a true Russian.  Ukrainians are people.  People who want to be free of Russian tyranny.  People who want to determine their own fate.

It's a concept that Russians serving their government wouldn't understand.  They're just slaves, for all intents and purposes.[/quote]

DP and I am Ukrainian. I totally support PP and a lot of Ukrainians sick and tired of this ongoing money laundering. Everyone in Ukraine knows the war will stop as soon as Americans will stop pumping money into it. [/quote]

What part of Ukraine? Russian or Ukrainian speaking?

Are you prepared to become a Russian satellite town? And to get thrown in jail for disagreeing with Putin? [/quote]

lol so you don't think there are people in jail today for disagreeing with Zelensky?[/quote]

Most likely they were not arrested for "disagreeing with Zelensky" but for something very different.  Gonzalo Lira for example was arrested for giving away Ukrainian troop positions to Russia but dishonest propagandists lied about that and claimed it was merely because he didn't agree with Zelenskyy.  And by the way, [b]spelling it "Zelensky" is a giveaway - that's how Russians write it.[/b]  They are sloppy propagandists.[/quote]

You are incorrect. Zelenskiy's family is from Donbass area and Zelenskiy is not a Ukrainian last name. He tries to look more Ukrainian by substituting "I" sound by "y", but it does not make him more Ukrainian unfortunately. His first foreign passport spelling was Zelenskiy. [/quote]

Lol look at you flailing and defensively trying to shift the goal posts away...

You were caught with the very Russian spelling of "Zelensky" but now you're falsely trying to pretend you were saying "Zelenskiy" which is more consistent with Ukrainian and Belarussian spelling - and even there you are wrong and your attempts at attributing it to being a Donbas thing or trying to suggest he wants to sound more Ukrainian is a swing and a miss.  His family is Jewish, and like many Jews living in Slavic lands, they adapted the Slavic word for their Ashkenazi family name, in Zelenskyy's case that being Grün (green).[/quote]

Russians don’t write in English, silly. Both countries use Cyrillic.

All this Zelenskyy, Zelenski, Zelenskiy business is just transcribers having fun. [/quote]

DP, but every Russian and Ukrainian's international passports are in English, silly. [/quote]

Correct but there are no set transcribing rules. How do you transcribe, for instance, a Cyrillic ж? Like a j or like a zh? What about a common ending like ий? Is it a y, a yy, an i, an iy, an yi, or an ii? What about a я, is it a ya or an ia?

It’s whatever convention is in force at the time the passport is issued. But depend upon it: Zelensky the president and any other Zelenski, Zelenskiy, or Zelenskyyyyyyy pronounce their names in the exact same way. [/quote]

Nope.  It doesn't depend on the fact of Cyrillic, it depends on the LANGUAGE being used.  Surely you should know that Cyrillic isn't just used for Russian, it is also used for a whole variety of Slavic languages like Bulgarian, Serbian, Macedonian, etc each of which has its own pronunciation rules and variations which will transcribe differently than Russian.  Not to mention all of the NON-slavic languages that use Cyrillic, like Abkhazian, Chechen, Kyrgyz, and so on whose pronunciation and transcription rules are even more different than the Slavic languages.

Also:  Ukrainian and Russian have been separate branches of Slavic language for 1000 years, and there are in fact differences in pronunciation and appropriate transcription between the two.   It's not "It's all the same."

On another note, the use of Cyrillic in Ukraine predates the use of it in Russia.  The Kievan Rus' of Ukraine adopted it in the 10th century from the Bulgarians of Tsar Simeon I.  Moscow was, at the time, nothing but a swamp.  Moscow wasn't even founded until 1147.  At the time, the city of Kyiv had already existed for at least 600 years.[/quote]

Given all of the rich history of Ukraine going back millennia, it's wild that Russian propagandists still try to say dumb things like "Ukrainian is not a language, it's just a broken dialect of Russian" when that's clearly not  true, or that "Ukrainians are not a people, they are just confused Russians" which is also clearly not true.  They must count on their audiences being completely ignorant of history.[/quote]

Agree -
Well said.[/quote]

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