S. Carolina double murder

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Anonymous wrote:This case is pretty much every Old South stereotype come to life. What a disgusting “culture.”

Interesting how we can judge the entire region by one person wrongdoing. Shall we apply the same judgement to the north culture based on Epstein conviction? And west culture based on Harvey Weinstein's crimes?

+1 Thank you. Or the mafia in NJ and NY? And nY culrure giving us Trump?

I mean it has every Southern trope except a down on her luck waitress mistress and some moonshine. Come on. This man was done in by a dog named Bubba and a heroic, sacrificial, unnamed chicken.

PP here. I don't disageee with what ypu've said here. I'm just saying it is not representative of southern culture.

But it is. There were scores of people we saw that were a part of this lifestyle. Is it ALL southern culture, no, but that stuff with the guns and dogs,small town nonsense, silly nicknames is for real the same way the NYC has a bunch of mooks named Jimmy Two Finger and Fat Sal at a pizza parlor. It’s not from nothing.

PP here. I guess I can only say I've lived in the south all my life, as did both my parents and their families; and I've never known anyone personally like this crowd.

Are you in Alpharetta? Because if you lived almost anywhere else in the south, you would know these families. They run the smaller cities and towns with the power of their granddaddy’s name and insular social circles. Their kids get away with everything and get all the accolades.

LOL nope! My families are from KY, VA, and FL. I do live in GA now but nothing like Alpharetta.

Then you just aren’t in that circle. Because they are absolutely in GA.

As a PP pointed out, this is clearly not limited to the South, and it can go way back before 1920 (when Murdaugh's grandfather was elected Solicitor).

seriously. do ya'll think tiny rural towns in upstate new york or central pa or michigan or maine are somehow any different? or do you just like hating on the south?

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Anonymous wrote:This case is pretty much every Old South stereotype come to life. What a disgusting “culture.”

Interesting how we can judge the entire region by one person wrongdoing. Shall we apply the same judgement to the north culture based on Epstein conviction? And west culture based on Harvey Weinstein's crimes?

You could drill down on those two and find many other commonalities other than region.

DAMN.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't read through all these pages but I don't think he did it. They found unidentified DNA under the wife's fingernails. The motive, that he was trying to distract people away from his embezzlement, seems like a very weak motive to use to kill your own child (I know murdering wives is more common). I believe what he said, that he lied about his being at the kennel because he knew the police already thought he did it and he was scared to say anything. The guy is definitely a bad person, but I think the investigation was very lazy and never looked hard at anyone else.

You didn’t hear the video that Paw-Paw sent Ro-Ro about Cash the dog. In it you can clearly hear Mags’ and Elick’s voices talking about a chicken in Bubba’s mouth. This was 5 minutes b4 they were killed. To me, this was the damming piece of evidence.

and I like when "Mags" cries gleefully "He's got a bird in his mouth!" about the dog. #GoodTimes

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Anonymous wrote:This case is pretty much every Old South stereotype come to life. What a disgusting “culture.”

Interesting how we can judge the entire region by one person wrongdoing. Shall we apply the same judgement to the north culture based on Epstein conviction? And west culture based on Harvey Weinstein's crimes?

+1 Thank you. Or the mafia in NJ and NY? And nY culrure giving us Trump?

I mean it has every Southern trope except a down on her luck waitress mistress and some moonshine. Come on. This man was done in by a dog named Bubba and a heroic, sacrificial, unnamed chicken.

PP here. I don't disageee with what ypu've said here. I'm just saying it is not representative of southern culture.

But it is. There were scores of people we saw that were a part of this lifestyle. Is it ALL southern culture, no, but that stuff with the guns and dogs,small town nonsense, silly nicknames is for real the same way the NYC has a bunch of mooks named Jimmy Two Finger and Fat Sal at a pizza parlor. It’s not from nothing.

PP here. I guess I can only say I've lived in the south all my life, as did both my parents and their families; and I've never known anyone personally like this crowd.

I have lived off and on in the south and I call BS. In the short time I was in that area I saw lots of entitled crazies. And yes there are crazy entitled people in NY (clears throat) but in the south they are stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:This case is pretty much every Old South stereotype come to life. What a disgusting “culture.”

Interesting how we can judge the entire region by one person wrongdoing. Shall we apply the same judgement to the north culture based on Epstein conviction? And west culture based on Harvey Weinstein's crimes?

+1 Thank you. Or the mafia in NJ and NY? And nY culrure giving us Trump?

I mean it has every Southern trope except a down on her luck waitress mistress and some moonshine. Come on. This man was done in by a dog named Bubba and a heroic, sacrificial, unnamed chicken.

PP here. I don't disageee with what ypu've said here. I'm just saying it is not representative of southern culture.

But it is. There were scores of people we saw that were a part of this lifestyle. Is it ALL southern culture, no, but that stuff with the guns and dogs,small town nonsense, silly nicknames is for real the same way the NYC has a bunch of mooks named Jimmy Two Finger and Fat Sal at a pizza parlor. It’s not from nothing.

PP here. I guess I can only say I've lived in the south all my life, as did both my parents and their families; and I've never known anyone personally like this crowd.

Are you in Alpharetta? Because if you lived almost anywhere else in the south, you would know these families. They run the smaller cities and towns with the power of their granddaddy’s name and insular social circles. Their kids get away with everything and get all the accolades.

Haha! DP here, and I lived in Alpharetta- neighbors with Deion Sanders.

And rich and famous as he is, he would not be included in those circles. It’s all about family lineage.

Uh, the point is Alpharetta is an outlier. It's high tech, transient (people move in and out due to jobs so you see people many backgrounds) and many athletes live there. Its not a good ole boy town.

ok, and? Do you think good ole boy towns only exist in the south?

Man, some of ya'll are DUMB dumb.

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^yet there are educated lawyers right there

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't read through all these pages but I don't think he did it. They found unidentified DNA under the wife's fingernails. The motive, that he was trying to distract people away from his embezzlement, seems like a very weak motive to use to kill your own child (I know murdering wives is more common). I believe what he said, that he lied about his being at the kennel because he knew the police already thought he did it and he was scared to say anything. The guy is definitely a bad person, but I think the investigation was very lazy and never looked hard at anyone else.

You didn’t hear the video that Paw-Paw sent Ro-Ro about Cash the dog. In it you can clearly hear Mags’ and Elick’s voices talking about a chicken in Bubba’s mouth. This was 5 minutes b4 they were killed. To me, this was the damming piece of evidence.

That and how he tried to intimidate his mother's caretaker into agreeing he had been at his mother's house for 45 minutes and tried to intimidate his housekeeper into agreeing with what shirt he told her he was wearing when she saw him earlier. Also the fact that they didn't have anyone else to point the finger at. The finding of the gun casings was interesting but not completely compelling.

And don’t forget about the blue jacket he tried to hide with the gunshot residue on it.

The murders happened on HIS property with HIS guns that had HIS bullets, to HIS wife and HIS kid in front of HIS dogs.

What makes anyone think HE didn’t do this??! The man is a convicted murderer, liar, thief and drug addict. He admitted to all of that under OATH and on the witness stand, with his own words. He should never be free in society ever again. He is innocent of nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:This case is pretty much every Old South stereotype come to life. What a disgusting “culture.”

Interesting how we can judge the entire region by one person wrongdoing. Shall we apply the same judgement to the north culture based on Epstein conviction? And west culture based on Harvey Weinstein's crimes?

+1 Thank you. Or the mafia in NJ and NY? And nY culrure giving us Trump?

I mean it has every Southern trope except a down on her luck waitress mistress and some moonshine. Come on. This man was done in by a dog named Bubba and a heroic, sacrificial, unnamed chicken.

PP here. I don't disageee with what ypu've said here. I'm just saying it is not representative of southern culture.

But it is. There were scores of people we saw that were a part of this lifestyle. Is it ALL southern culture, no, but that stuff with the guns and dogs,small town nonsense, silly nicknames is for real the same way the NYC has a bunch of mooks named Jimmy Two Finger and Fat Sal at a pizza parlor. It’s not from nothing.

PP here. I guess I can only say I've lived in the south all my life, as did both my parents and their families; and I've never known anyone personally like this crowd.

Are you in Alpharetta? Because if you lived almost anywhere else in the south, you would know these families. They run the smaller cities and towns with the power of their granddaddy’s name and insular social circles. Their kids get away with everything and get all the accolades.

Haha! DP here, and I lived in Alpharetta- neighbors with Deion Sanders.

And rich and famous as he is, he would not be included in those circles. It’s all about family lineage.

Uh, the point is Alpharetta is an outlier. It's high tech, transient (people move in and out due to jobs so you see people many backgrounds) and many athletes live there. Its not a good ole boy town.

ok, and? Do you think good ole boy towns only exist in the south?

Man, some of ya'll are DUMB dumb.

No dum dum, keep up. I was commiserating with a PP about Alpharetta.

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There was a blue item in the front passenger seat of Alex’s black suburban on the night of the murders. You see the responding officer walk over and shine his flashlight on it, then to the back seat. Was it a towel, maybe the blue raincoat? Look back on the video, you will see it

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't read through all these pages but I don't think he did it. They found unidentified DNA under the wife's fingernails. The motive, that he was trying to distract people away from his embezzlement, seems like a very weak motive to use to kill your own child (I know murdering wives is more common). I believe what he said, that he lied about his being at the kennel because he knew the police already thought he did it and he was scared to say anything. The guy is definitely a bad person, but I think the investigation was very lazy and never looked hard at anyone else.

You didn’t hear the video that Paw-Paw sent Ro-Ro about Cash the dog. In it you can clearly hear Mags’ and Elick’s voices talking about a chicken in Bubba’s mouth. This was 5 minutes b4 they were killed. To me, this was the damming piece of evidence.

and I like when "Mags" cries gleefully "He's got a bird in his mouth!" about the dog. #GoodTimes

Bubba had a guinea in his mouth!

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Anonymous wrote:In 10 days defense will file an appeal. Seems like there are multiple reasons that it is merited.

Also how could he get a fair and impartial jury in that small town with so much press, shows and documentaries out there?

He testified in his own defense. What possible appeal is going to overcome that??

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Anonymous wrote:This case is pretty much every Old South stereotype come to life. What a disgusting “culture.”

Interesting how we can judge the entire region by one person wrongdoing. Shall we apply the same judgement to the north culture based on Epstein conviction? And west culture based on Harvey Weinstein's crimes?

+1 Thank you. Or the mafia in NJ and NY? And nY culrure giving us Trump?

I mean it has every Southern trope except a down on her luck waitress mistress and some moonshine. Come on. This man was done in by a dog named Bubba and a heroic, sacrificial, unnamed chicken.

PP here. I don't disageee with what ypu've said here. I'm just saying it is not representative of southern culture.

But it is. There were scores of people we saw that were a part of this lifestyle. Is it ALL southern culture, no, but that stuff with the guns and dogs,small town nonsense, silly nicknames is for real the same way the NYC has a bunch of mooks named Jimmy Two Finger and Fat Sal at a pizza parlor. It’s not from nothing.

PP here. I guess I can only say I've lived in the south all my life, as did both my parents and their families; and I've never known anyone personally like this crowd.

Are you in Alpharetta? Because if you lived almost anywhere else in the south, you would know these families. They run the smaller cities and towns with the power of their granddaddy’s name and insular social circles. Their kids get away with everything and get all the accolades.

Haha! DP here, and I lived in Alpharetta- neighbors with Deion Sanders.

And rich and famous as he is, he would not be included in those circles. It’s all about family lineage.

Uh, the point is Alpharetta is an outlier. It's high tech, transient (people move in and out due to jobs so you see people many backgrounds) and many athletes live there. Its not a good ole boy town.

ok, and? Do you think good ole boy towns only exist in the south?

Man, some of ya'll are DUMB dumb.

Just look at good ole boy College Park today. Their mayor was trafficking child porn for years and years!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This case is pretty much every Old South stereotype come to life. What a disgusting “culture.”

Amen, PP. This case--and all the related documentaries about the family--have laid bare for all to see the inner workings of the good ol' boy culture that has always been stacked against poor whites and non-whites. Mind you, the North also has entitled family dynasties (the Trumps come to mind), but this case exemplifies upper-class male privilege on steroids. I hope the families of all his family's victims go after his estate for every penny they can get.

Funny you didn't mention the Kennedys, the most entitled family in U.S. history.

Probably because the Kennedys represent both sides of the coin: Scandals and debauchery, but also public service and charitable works. The Trumps have never given a damn about other people and have contributed nothing of value to this country.

What type of public service worth a human life? Or lobotomy of your own child? What is that value that Kennedis added to this country that you can put on the scale with one human life?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't read through all these pages but I don't think he did it. They found unidentified DNA under the wife's fingernails. The motive, that he was trying to distract people away from his embezzlement, seems like a very weak motive to use to kill your own child (I know murdering wives is more common). I believe what he said, that he lied about his being at the kennel because he knew the police already thought he did it and he was scared to say anything. The guy is definitely a bad person, but I think the investigation was very lazy and never looked hard at anyone else.

You didn’t hear the video that Paw-Paw sent Ro-Ro about Cash the dog. In it you can clearly hear Mags’ and Elick’s voices talking about a chicken in Bubba’s mouth. This was 5 minutes b4 they were killed. To me, this was the damming piece of evidence.

and I like when "Mags" cries gleefully "He's got a bird in his mouth!" about the dog. #GoodTimes

From the photos, I believe is was a dog toy/stuffed animal, not a live bird/chicken.

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Anonymous wrote:In 10 days defense will file an appeal. Seems like there are multiple reasons that it is merited.

Also how could he get a fair and impartial jury in that small town with so much press, shows and documentaries out there?

He testified in his own defense. What possible appeal is going to overcome that??

Are you an attorney? I hope there is none but the defense sure will be looking for one. I am stunned by what the judge said to murdaugh: that people have received the death penalty for less than what he did. I almost thought that he was going to recommend that sentence. I thought the closing argument by John Meadors sealed the guilty verdict, coupled with the defenses, which was terrible. A juror said that it took only about 45 minutes to an hour to come to an agreement. When they started it was 9 guilty, 2 not guilty and 1 undecided.