To people frustrated with Biden who say they won’t vote in 2024

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I don't believe Trump would handle this situation better. I do believe there would be a high, if not certain, likelihood that we would not be in this position.

Oh really? How - with his awesomeness? Reminder: he threw fuel on the fire by moving the US embassy to Jerusalem, thereby removing the US as a good faith arbiter.

DP.

My cynical side says he would throw Ukraine to Russia, in exchange for Israel (iran and Russia fund Hamas).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

I don't believe Trump would handle this situation better. I do believe there would be a high, if not certain, likelihood that we would not be in this position.

Oh really? How - with his awesomeness? Reminder: he threw fuel on the fire by moving the US embassy to Jerusalem, thereby removing the US as a good faith arbiter.

Biden said he was a Zionist, covered up Israel bombing the hospital, gave Israel a green light to kill as many Palestinians as they want with unlimited US weapons, is all in on removing Palestinians from Israel, denied any Palestinians have been killed in Gaza, joked about Palestinians deaths, said the Palestinian( not Hamas) needs to aim better, does not recognize Palestinians right to exist, etc, etc.

Biden can do that without my vote.

SMH. Could you at least criticize using reality instead of fantasy?

The reality is that people like PP finally feel comfortable letting their anti-semitism out in public. Used to be only Republicans felt good about that - now unfortunately we've got the far feeling pretty good saying out loud the hateful things they used to have to hide, too.

+1

The far left has a long and vulgar history of anti-Semitism, and we're seeing it on full display.

Show your work. Otherwise you’re full of it.

I mean have you heard of the Black Panthers? Farrakhan? The SNCC?

Marx? (Hint: "On the Jewish Question")

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And the “vote Biden or you’re a Trumper” folks need to realize that, should Biden lose in ‘24, no one is going to wring their hands about how they voted third party.

They’re going to say— we told you a year ago you were on the wrong path. We yelled it. We screamed it. We said it in polls. And you ignored us at your peril.

Here’s the one year warning: do better. Stop marginalizing people. Stop characterizing criticism and dissent as Trumpism.

Because no matter how many times you say “blue no matter who” you will have no one to blame but yourselves. Everyone sees this coming.

I think the polling data from the past few weeks is something the DNC won't ignore. The alarm bells are ringing. It will be interesting to see the messaging that comes out of the Biden campaign in the coming weeks. If there is any chance of Biden being convinced to back out of the race for a second term, it would be best if that decision and announcement is made much sooner than later. If Biden were replaced by a normal candidate, the RNC's hand could be forced into getting Trump off the ticket mode as they will quickly realize Trump would have zero chance against a normal Dem candidate.

I really hope the bolded is true.

I don’t need Biden to drop out. I need him to take the opportunity to take the opportunity. Course-correct right now on Israel. Course-correct right now on support for women. Because I think second-term Presidents can take more risks knowing there’s no third term, I’d rather have a Biden-as-promised second term than a Booker first term.

But I won’t vote for someone who hears people questioning whether 3000 dead children is worth it and says that they’re on the wrong side here for having scruples.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I don't believe Trump would handle this situation better. I do believe there would be a high, if not certain, likelihood that we would not be in this position.

Oh really? How - with his awesomeness? Reminder: he threw fuel on the fire by moving the US embassy to Jerusalem, thereby removing the US as a good faith arbiter.

DP.

My cynical side says he would throw Ukraine to Russia, in exchange for Israel (iran and Russia fund Hamas).

You don't need to be cynical. He already gave Russia Donbas without raising an eyebrow.

[Anonymous]

What more support for women do you want, without a Senate willing to pass a Roe Bill?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What more support for women do you want, without a Senate willing to pass a Roe Bill?

Right?

I mean this is "wave a magic wand" level of fantasy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I don't believe Trump would handle this situation better. I do believe there would be a high, if not certain, likelihood that we would not be in this position.

Oh really? How - with his awesomeness? Reminder: he threw fuel on the fire by moving the US embassy to Jerusalem, thereby removing the US as a good faith arbiter.

DP.

My cynical side says he would throw Ukraine to Russia, in exchange for Israel (iran and Russia fund Hamas).

Ukraine would never be invaded on Trump's watch. They would negotiate some kind of deal. Russia would keep the occupy territory (that they still have despite almost two years of war), but at least there would not be thousands of dead Ukrainians and millions of displayed Ukrainians.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I don't believe Trump would handle this situation better. I do believe there would be a high, if not certain, likelihood that we would not be in this position.

Oh really? How - with his awesomeness? Reminder: he threw fuel on the fire by moving the US embassy to Jerusalem, thereby removing the US as a good faith arbiter.

Biden said he was a Zionist, covered up Israel bombing the hospital, gave Israel a green light to kill as many Palestinians as they want with unlimited US weapons, is all in on removing Palestinians from Israel, denied any Palestinians have been killed in Gaza, joked about Palestinians deaths, said the Palestinian( not Hamas) needs to aim better, does not recognize Palestinians right to exist, etc, etc.

Biden can do that without my vote.

SMH. Could you at least criticize using reality instead of fantasy?

The reality is that people like PP finally feel comfortable letting their anti-semitism out in public. Used to be only Republicans felt good about that - now unfortunately we've got the far feeling pretty good saying out loud the hateful things they used to have to hide, too.

+1

The far left has a long and vulgar history of anti-Semitism, and we're seeing it on full display.

Show your work. Otherwise you’re full of it.

I mean have you heard of the Black Panthers? Farrakhan? The SNCC?

Marx? (Hint: "On the Jewish Question")

Marx is classic, all Americans jewish should read it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And the “vote Biden or you’re a Trumper” folks need to realize that, should Biden lose in ‘24, no one is going to wring their hands about how they voted third party.

They’re going to say— we told you a year ago you were on the wrong path. We yelled it. We screamed it. We said it in polls. And you ignored us at your peril.

Here’s the one year warning: do better. Stop marginalizing people. Stop characterizing criticism and dissent as Trumpism.

Because no matter how many times you say “blue no matter who” you will have no one to blame but yourselves. Everyone sees this coming.

I think the polling data from the past few weeks is something the DNC won't ignore. The alarm bells are ringing. It will be interesting to see the messaging that comes out of the Biden campaign in the coming weeks. If there is any chance of Biden being convinced to back out of the race for a second term, it would be best if that decision and announcement is made much sooner than later. If Biden were replaced by a normal candidate, the RNC's hand could be forced into getting Trump off the ticket mode as they will quickly realize Trump would have zero chance against a normal Dem candidate.

I will not vote for a Democratic presidential candidate unless they present a transition team free of neocon members from the Biden and Obama admins.

But you will be happy to enable the rise of a Christian-fascist leader in the alternative. Bravo!

The lesser of two evils.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What more support for women do you want, without a Senate willing to pass a Roe Bill?

I have laid it out earlier in the thread. All stuff he could do tomorrow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What more support for women do you want, without a Senate willing to pass a Roe Bill?

Can I say as well— there’s more he could
do that isn’t abortion.

What if he stopped trying to roll back workplace flexibility for Feds since all of the data shows those are especially valuable to…women?

What if he did more on childcare or any of the items that got dropped?

Again just spitballing here but what if he did anything to suggest he understands they’re critical to his reelection?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don’t care. Biden has done some good but his failures to protect voting rights and choosing Israel over the interest of the US is just too much. I am done with him. It is not 1985.

So, you want Trump??

He wants to require the military to pledge allegiance to him personally!

He wants to dismantle most of the Federal government, including the EPA, the FDA, everything. Are you OK with no one inspecting the food you eat? Are you OK with giving corporations free reign to pollute as much as they want?

Are you OK with climate change continuing until it completely destroys the Earth?

That's who you are voting for when you refuse to vote for Biden.

I'm not happy with Biden in some ways, but I will vote for him no matter what.

I fear for the future of our country if Trump wins, and you should too.

Hold your nose and vote for Biden.

Thank you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I don't believe Trump would handle this situation better. I do believe there would be a high, if not certain, likelihood that we would not be in this position.

Oh really? How - with his awesomeness? Reminder: he threw fuel on the fire by moving the US embassy to Jerusalem, thereby removing the US as a good faith arbiter.

DP.

My cynical side says he would throw Ukraine to Russia, in exchange for Israel (iran and Russia fund Hamas).

Ukraine would never be invaded on Trump's watch. They would negotiate some kind of deal. Russia would keep the occupy territory (that they still have despite almost two years of war), but at least there would not be thousands of dead Ukrainians and millions of displayed Ukrainians.

Right? There would just be less Ukraine, and Russia would have the warm weather ports it had been seeking for hundreds of years. Ya, let's just annex all countries! Let's give Alaska back to Russia and Mexico can have California, Texas, New Mexico and Arizona!. And while we are at it, Canada can have Wisconsin, Minnesota and Vermont.

Any other bright ideas?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t care. Biden has done some good but his failures to protect voting rights and choosing Israel over the interest of the US is just too much. I am done with him. It is not 1985.

So, you want Trump??

He wants to require the military to pledge allegiance to him personally!

He wants to dismantle most of the Federal government, including the EPA, the FDA, everything. Are you OK with no one inspecting the food you eat? Are you OK with giving corporations free reign to pollute as much as they want?

Are you OK with climate change continuing until it completely destroys the Earth?

That's who you are voting for when you refuse to vote for Biden.

I'm not happy with Biden in some ways, but I will vote for him no matter what.

I fear for the future of our country if Trump wins, and you should too.

Hold your nose and vote for Biden.

Thank you.

It’s a year away! Why not work to make Biden better instead of telling voters now that they need to have lower standards?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I don't believe Trump would handle this situation better. I do believe there would be a high, if not certain, likelihood that we would not be in this position.

Oh really? How - with his awesomeness? Reminder: he threw fuel on the fire by moving the US embassy to Jerusalem, thereby removing the US as a good faith arbiter.

DP.

My cynical side says he would throw Ukraine to Russia, in exchange for Israel (iran and Russia fund Hamas).

Ukraine would never be invaded on Trump's watch. They would negotiate some kind of deal. Russia would keep the occupy territory (that they still have despite almost two years of war), but at least there would not be thousands of dead Ukrainians and millions of displayed Ukrainians.

Russia literally took Donbas ON TRUMPS WATCH and it was never raised as an issue from the White House.