Court: TJ's New Admission Policy Does Not Discriminate

[Anonymous]

TRUE! Affirmative Action (now defunct) only benefits rich blacks and Latinos, who desperately needed it to sneak into TJ.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The insistence with which folks deny reality in this Curie matter just shows how devastating it is to their case. All of the surrounding evidence points to how important the boutique test prep industry is to securing favorable admissions outcomes for Asian and specifically South Asian families.

For 15 years the percentage of Asian students in incoming freshmen classes increased, steadily and consistently, until the first set of changes to the admissions process came for the Class of 2022. That's when the new, supposedly "unpreppable" Quant-Q was introduced into the equation.

The Class of 2021 saw a record 74.9% of offers extended to Asian students, with an additional 6% extended to multi-racial students - who at TJ, are nearly exclusively white/Asian. The new exam suite, developed and deployed at great expense, resulted in a drop for the first time in recent history to 65.2% of offers extended to Asian students. <b> There can be no doubt that the change in exams was directly responsible for the lack of success of Asian students for the Class of 2022. </b> For the first time during that year, Curie published their infamous list of first and last names on Facebook of their students achieving admissions success to TJ, AOS, and AET. The total number of 2022 students at TJ that they claimed was 50.

In the following year, Curie published their new, improved flagship TJ Prep course - as always, at a cost of about $5,000 per student. They promised preparation for the new Quant-Q exam - hard to see how, given that everyone who sees that exam, whether as a student or as a proctor, is required to sign an NDA. It should surprise no one that the Class of 2023 was 72.3% Asian and that Curie claimed 97 TJ admits in that class, and that the following year, the Class of 2024 was 73.5% Asian with 133 Curie admits.

Think about that for a moment - Curie cleared nearly half a million in 2023 and nearly three quarters of a million in 2024 in receipts just on the kids who were admitted to TJ, to say nothing of the families that invested the $5K and ended up at AOS, AET, or elsewhere.

When you pair those statistics with all of the stuff that's been confirmed on TJ Vents by named students who were on the Curie lists, you have to be an ostrich burying your head in the sand not to acknowledge the reality of the situation. Carry on denying if you must, but understand that you'll be perceived as unserious.

And it will almost certainly never be confirmed, because there's no reason that anyone is ever going to open a legitimate investigation into what happened. The admissions process has already been changed to severely limit the impact of boutique test prep. But to deny that reality is to spit on the brave TJ students (who were all South Asian, by the way) that were willing to admit to their colleagues what went on during that time period.

Do you know Asian parents sacrifice personal entertainment to pay for children’s studies? In Fairfax, tons of blacks and Latinos are middle classes and they are as rich as Asians, just because you do not care your children’s studies, now you want to manipulate the processes to take advantage of races?
Most of blacks and Latinos attending TJ are not poor at all, so your arguments is basically bs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NAACP is a racist organization that needs to be dismantled. Rotten to the core

Stop using certain words if you don't know their meaning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The insistence with which folks deny reality in this Curie matter just shows how devastating it is to their case. All of the surrounding evidence points to how important the boutique test prep industry is to securing favorable admissions outcomes for Asian and specifically South Asian families.

For 15 years the percentage of Asian students in incoming freshmen classes increased, steadily and consistently, until the first set of changes to the admissions process came for the Class of 2022. That's when the new, supposedly "unpreppable" Quant-Q was introduced into the equation.

The Class of 2021 saw a record 74.9% of offers extended to Asian students, with an additional 6% extended to multi-racial students - who at TJ, are nearly exclusively white/Asian. The new exam suite, developed and deployed at great expense, resulted in a drop for the first time in recent history to 65.2% of offers extended to Asian students. <b> There can be no doubt that the change in exams was directly responsible for the lack of success of Asian students for the Class of 2022. </b> For the first time during that year, Curie published their infamous list of first and last names on Facebook of their students achieving admissions success to TJ, AOS, and AET. The total number of 2022 students at TJ that they claimed was 50.

In the following year, Curie published their new, improved flagship TJ Prep course - as always, at a cost of about $5,000 per student. They promised preparation for the new Quant-Q exam - hard to see how, given that everyone who sees that exam, whether as a student or as a proctor, is required to sign an NDA. It should surprise no one that the Class of 2023 was 72.3% Asian and that Curie claimed 97 TJ admits in that class, and that the following year, the Class of 2024 was 73.5% Asian with 133 Curie admits.

Think about that for a moment - Curie cleared nearly half a million in 2023 and nearly three quarters of a million in 2024 in receipts just on the kids who were admitted to TJ, to say nothing of the families that invested the $5K and ended up at AOS, AET, or elsewhere.

When you pair those statistics with all of the stuff that's been confirmed on TJ Vents by named students who were on the Curie lists, you have to be an ostrich burying your head in the sand not to acknowledge the reality of the situation. Carry on denying if you must, but understand that you'll be perceived as unserious.

And it will almost certainly never be confirmed, because there's no reason that anyone is ever going to open a legitimate investigation into what happened. The admissions process has already been changed to severely limit the impact of boutique test prep. But to deny that reality is to spit on the brave TJ students (who were all South Asian, by the way) that were willing to admit to their colleagues what went on during that time period.

Do you know Asian parents sacrifice personal entertainment to pay for children’s studies? In Fairfax, tons of blacks and Latinos are middle classes and they are as rich as Asians, just because you do not care your children’s studies, now you want to manipulate the processes to take advantage of races?
Most of blacks and Latinos attending TJ are not poor at all, so your arguments is basically bs

1) You may have some idea of how Asian families behave on a broad scale, but you do not have a strong grasp about how groups other than yours behave. To say that other groups “do not care your children’s studies” is a semantically improper way to suggest that the only parents who value education are Asians, and that’s just flat out racist. Full stop.

2) Under the previous admissions process, your statement about most “Blacks and Latinos attending TJ are not poor at all” would have been true, if for no other reason that it was virtually impossible for economically disadvantaged students of ANY race to be admitted to TJ - in large part because of boutique test prep. Under the new process, many of the Black and Latino families at TJ do in fact belong in the economically disadvantaged category.

This is also a good time to remember that poor Asian students were the single largest demographic beneficiary of the new admissions process for c/o 2025.

3) To claim that Black and Latino families in Northern Virginia are “just as rich as Asians” is cataclysmically incorrect. By FAR the wealthiest demographic in the area is South Asians and it is therefore no surprise that the old, exam-dependent process favored that group most of all - at the expense of every other group (including, importantly, East and Southeast Asians, whose numbers have plummeted since the 90s and early 2000s). That’s not something you’d know unless you were intimately familiar with TJ, but it’s been a fairly obvious trend in recent years.

What’s wild is that the South Asian cohort has co-opted the East and Southeast Asian cohort in this holy war against equity when the latter group has been the most impacted by recent admissions trends.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The insistence with which folks deny reality in this Curie matter just shows how devastating it is to their case. All of the surrounding evidence points to how important the boutique test prep industry is to securing favorable admissions outcomes for Asian and specifically South Asian families.

For 15 years the percentage of Asian students in incoming freshmen classes increased, steadily and consistently, until the first set of changes to the admissions process came for the Class of 2022. That's when the new, supposedly "unpreppable" Quant-Q was introduced into the equation.

The Class of 2021 saw a record 74.9% of offers extended to Asian students, with an additional 6% extended to multi-racial students - who at TJ, are nearly exclusively white/Asian. The new exam suite, developed and deployed at great expense, resulted in a drop for the first time in recent history to 65.2% of offers extended to Asian students. <b> There can be no doubt that the change in exams was directly responsible for the lack of success of Asian students for the Class of 2022. </b> For the first time during that year, Curie published their infamous list of first and last names on Facebook of their students achieving admissions success to TJ, AOS, and AET. The total number of 2022 students at TJ that they claimed was 50.

In the following year, Curie published their new, improved flagship TJ Prep course - as always, at a cost of about $5,000 per student. They promised preparation for the new Quant-Q exam - hard to see how, given that everyone who sees that exam, whether as a student or as a proctor, is required to sign an NDA. It should surprise no one that the Class of 2023 was 72.3% Asian and that Curie claimed 97 TJ admits in that class, and that the following year, the Class of 2024 was 73.5% Asian with 133 Curie admits.

Think about that for a moment - Curie cleared nearly half a million in 2023 and nearly three quarters of a million in 2024 in receipts just on the kids who were admitted to TJ, to say nothing of the families that invested the $5K and ended up at AOS, AET, or elsewhere.

When you pair those statistics with all of the stuff that's been confirmed on TJ Vents by named students who were on the Curie lists, you have to be an ostrich burying your head in the sand not to acknowledge the reality of the situation. Carry on denying if you must, but understand that you'll be perceived as unserious.

And it will almost certainly never be confirmed, because there's no reason that anyone is ever going to open a legitimate investigation into what happened. The admissions process has already been changed to severely limit the impact of boutique test prep. But to deny that reality is to spit on the brave TJ students (who were all South Asian, by the way) that were willing to admit to their colleagues what went on during that time period.

Do you know Asian parents sacrifice personal entertainment to pay for children’s studies? In Fairfax, tons of blacks and Latinos are middle classes and they are as rich as Asians, just because you do not care your children’s studies, now you want to manipulate the processes to take advantage of races?
Most of blacks and Latinos attending TJ are not poor at all, so your arguments is basically bs

1) You may have some idea of how Asian families behave on a broad scale, but you do not have a strong grasp about how groups other than yours behave. To say that other groups “do not care your children’s studies” is a semantically improper way to suggest that the only parents who value education are Asians, and that’s just flat out racist. Full stop.

2) Under the previous admissions process, your statement about most “Blacks and Latinos attending TJ are not poor at all” would have been true, if for no other reason that it was virtually impossible for economically disadvantaged students of ANY race to be admitted to TJ - in large part because of boutique test prep. Under the new process, many of the Black and Latino families at TJ do in fact belong in the economically disadvantaged category.

This is also a good time to remember that poor Asian students were the single largest demographic beneficiary of the new admissions process for c/o 2025.

3) To claim that Black and Latino families in Northern Virginia are “just as rich as Asians” is cataclysmically incorrect. By FAR the wealthiest demographic in the area is South Asians and it is therefore no surprise that the old, exam-dependent process favored that group most of all - at the expense of every other group (including, importantly, East and Southeast Asians, whose numbers have plummeted since the 90s and early 2000s). That’s not something you’d know unless you were intimately familiar with TJ, but it’s been a fairly obvious trend in recent years.

What’s wild is that the South Asian cohort has co-opted the East and Southeast Asian cohort in this holy war against equity when the latter group has been the most impacted by recent admissions trends.

Can I just say I love watching clueless people get dismantled by whoever wrote the above

[Anonymous]

New TJ lawsuit incoming in 3...2...1...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:New TJ lawsuit incoming in 3...2...1...

Regarding what, precisely?

[Anonymous]

Establishing an admissions system which indirectly discriminates against asians (see page 39, paragraph 3 of the SCOTUS AA ruling). There is now a new basis for more lawsuits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Establishing an admissions system which indirectly discriminates against asians (see page 39, paragraph 3 of the SCOTUS AA ruling). There is now a new basis for more lawsuits.

...there is one lawsuit which is on its way to the Supreme Court. The Court may or may not grant certiorari to hear the case, as the facts of it are relatively weak to establish new ground in the matter.

[Anonymous]

someone said the same thing when the lawsuit (now victorious and historic) against Harvard was filed to the Supreme Court last year.

no lesson learned?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
...there is one lawsuit which is on its way to the Supreme Court. The Court may or may not grant certiorari to hear the case, as the facts of it are relatively weak to establish new ground in the matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The insistence with which folks deny reality in this Curie matter just shows how devastating it is to their case. All of the surrounding evidence points to how important the boutique test prep industry is to securing favorable admissions outcomes for Asian and specifically South Asian families.

For 15 years the percentage of Asian students in incoming freshmen classes increased, steadily and consistently, until the first set of changes to the admissions process came for the Class of 2022. That's when the new, supposedly "unpreppable" Quant-Q was introduced into the equation.

The Class of 2021 saw a record 74.9% of offers extended to Asian students, with an additional 6% extended to multi-racial students - who at TJ, are nearly exclusively white/Asian. The new exam suite, developed and deployed at great expense, resulted in a drop for the first time in recent history to 65.2% of offers extended to Asian students. <b> There can be no doubt that the change in exams was directly responsible for the lack of success of Asian students for the Class of 2022. </b> For the first time during that year, Curie published their infamous list of first and last names on Facebook of their students achieving admissions success to TJ, AOS, and AET. The total number of 2022 students at TJ that they claimed was 50.

In the following year, Curie published their new, improved flagship TJ Prep course - as always, at a cost of about $5,000 per student. They promised preparation for the new Quant-Q exam - hard to see how, given that everyone who sees that exam, whether as a student or as a proctor, is required to sign an NDA. It should surprise no one that the Class of 2023 was 72.3% Asian and that Curie claimed 97 TJ admits in that class, and that the following year, the Class of 2024 was 73.5% Asian with 133 Curie admits.

Think about that for a moment - Curie cleared nearly half a million in 2023 and nearly three quarters of a million in 2024 in receipts just on the kids who were admitted to TJ, to say nothing of the families that invested the $5K and ended up at AOS, AET, or elsewhere.

When you pair those statistics with all of the stuff that's been confirmed on TJ Vents by named students who were on the Curie lists, you have to be an ostrich burying your head in the sand not to acknowledge the reality of the situation. Carry on denying if you must, but understand that you'll be perceived as unserious.

And it will almost certainly never be confirmed, because there's no reason that anyone is ever going to open a legitimate investigation into what happened. The admissions process has already been changed to severely limit the impact of boutique test prep. But to deny that reality is to spit on the brave TJ students (who were all South Asian, by the way) that were willing to admit to their colleagues what went on during that time period.

Do you know Asian parents sacrifice personal entertainment to pay for children’s studies? In Fairfax, tons of blacks and Latinos are middle classes and they are as rich as Asians, just because you do not care your children’s studies, now you want to manipulate the processes to take advantage of races?
Most of blacks and Latinos attending TJ are not poor at all, so your arguments is basically bs

1) You may have some idea of how Asian families behave on a broad scale, but you do not have a strong grasp about how groups other than yours behave. To say that other groups “do not care your children’s studies” is a semantically improper way to suggest that the only parents who value education are Asians, and that’s just flat out racist. Full stop.

2) Under the previous admissions process, your statement about most “Blacks and Latinos attending TJ are not poor at all” would have been true, if for no other reason that it was virtually impossible for economically disadvantaged students of ANY race to be admitted to TJ - in large part because of boutique test prep. Under the new process, many of the Black and Latino families at TJ do in fact belong in the economically disadvantaged category.

This is also a good time to remember that poor Asian students were the single largest demographic beneficiary of the new admissions process for c/o 2025.

3) To claim that Black and Latino families in Northern Virginia are “just as rich as Asians” is cataclysmically incorrect. By FAR the wealthiest demographic in the area is South Asians and it is therefore no surprise that the old, exam-dependent process favored that group most of all - at the expense of every other group (including, importantly, East and Southeast Asians, whose numbers have plummeted since the 90s and early 2000s). That’s not something you’d know unless you were intimately familiar with TJ, but it’s been a fairly obvious trend in recent years.

What’s wild is that the South Asian cohort has co-opted the East and Southeast Asian cohort in this holy war against equity when the latter group has been the most impacted by recent admissions trends.

Asians are not stupid at all, and they now know how to deal with new system, No matter what you argue, next year, it is guaranteed that most of admissions are provided to asians again. let's seat and watch what you guys will be crying next year. complaining again the new system? lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The insistence with which folks deny reality in this Curie matter just shows how devastating it is to their case. All of the surrounding evidence points to how important the boutique test prep industry is to securing favorable admissions outcomes for Asian and specifically South Asian families.

For 15 years the percentage of Asian students in incoming freshmen classes increased, steadily and consistently, until the first set of changes to the admissions process came for the Class of 2022. That's when the new, supposedly "unpreppable" Quant-Q was introduced into the equation.

The Class of 2021 saw a record 74.9% of offers extended to Asian students, with an additional 6% extended to multi-racial students - who at TJ, are nearly exclusively white/Asian. The new exam suite, developed and deployed at great expense, resulted in a drop for the first time in recent history to 65.2% of offers extended to Asian students. <b> There can be no doubt that the change in exams was directly responsible for the lack of success of Asian students for the Class of 2022. </b> For the first time during that year, Curie published their infamous list of first and last names on Facebook of their students achieving admissions success to TJ, AOS, and AET. The total number of 2022 students at TJ that they claimed was 50.

In the following year, Curie published their new, improved flagship TJ Prep course - as always, at a cost of about $5,000 per student. They promised preparation for the new Quant-Q exam - hard to see how, given that everyone who sees that exam, whether as a student or as a proctor, is required to sign an NDA. It should surprise no one that the Class of 2023 was 72.3% Asian and that Curie claimed 97 TJ admits in that class, and that the following year, the Class of 2024 was 73.5% Asian with 133 Curie admits.

Think about that for a moment - Curie cleared nearly half a million in 2023 and nearly three quarters of a million in 2024 in receipts just on the kids who were admitted to TJ, to say nothing of the families that invested the $5K and ended up at AOS, AET, or elsewhere.

When you pair those statistics with all of the stuff that's been confirmed on TJ Vents by named students who were on the Curie lists, you have to be an ostrich burying your head in the sand not to acknowledge the reality of the situation. Carry on denying if you must, but understand that you'll be perceived as unserious.

And it will almost certainly never be confirmed, because there's no reason that anyone is ever going to open a legitimate investigation into what happened. The admissions process has already been changed to severely limit the impact of boutique test prep. But to deny that reality is to spit on the brave TJ students (who were all South Asian, by the way) that were willing to admit to their colleagues what went on during that time period.

Do you know Asian parents sacrifice personal entertainment to pay for children’s studies? In Fairfax, tons of blacks and Latinos are middle classes and they are as rich as Asians, just because you do not care your children’s studies, now you want to manipulate the processes to take advantage of races?
Most of blacks and Latinos attending TJ are not poor at all, so your arguments is basically bs

1) You may have some idea of how Asian families behave on a broad scale, but you do not have a strong grasp about how groups other than yours behave. To say that other groups “do not care your children’s studies” is a semantically improper way to suggest that the only parents who value education are Asians, and that’s just flat out racist. Full stop.

2) Under the previous admissions process, your statement about most “Blacks and Latinos attending TJ are not poor at all” would have been true, if for no other reason that it was virtually impossible for economically disadvantaged students of ANY race to be admitted to TJ - in large part because of boutique test prep. Under the new process, many of the Black and Latino families at TJ do in fact belong in the economically disadvantaged category.

This is also a good time to remember that poor Asian students were the single largest demographic beneficiary of the new admissions process for c/o 2025.

3) To claim that Black and Latino families in Northern Virginia are “just as rich as Asians” is cataclysmically incorrect. By FAR the wealthiest demographic in the area is South Asians and it is therefore no surprise that the old, exam-dependent process favored that group most of all - at the expense of every other group (including, importantly, East and Southeast Asians, whose numbers have plummeted since the 90s and early 2000s). That’s not something you’d know unless you were intimately familiar with TJ, but it’s been a fairly obvious trend in recent years.

What’s wild is that the South Asian cohort has co-opted the East and Southeast Asian cohort in this holy war against equity when the latter group has been the most impacted by recent admissions trends.

Asians are not stupid at all, and they now know how to deal with new system, No matter what you argue, next year, it is guaranteed that most of admissions are provided to asians again. let's seat and watch what you guys will be crying next year. complaining again the new system? lol

What point were you even trying to make here? There isn’t going to be a new system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The insistence with which folks deny reality in this Curie matter just shows how devastating it is to their case. All of the surrounding evidence points to how important the boutique test prep industry is to securing favorable admissions outcomes for Asian and specifically South Asian families.

For 15 years the percentage of Asian students in incoming freshmen classes increased, steadily and consistently, until the first set of changes to the admissions process came for the Class of 2022. That's when the new, supposedly "unpreppable" Quant-Q was introduced into the equation.

The Class of 2021 saw a record 74.9% of offers extended to Asian students, with an additional 6% extended to multi-racial students - who at TJ, are nearly exclusively white/Asian. The new exam suite, developed and deployed at great expense, resulted in a drop for the first time in recent history to 65.2% of offers extended to Asian students. <b> There can be no doubt that the change in exams was directly responsible for the lack of success of Asian students for the Class of 2022. </b> For the first time during that year, Curie published their infamous list of first and last names on Facebook of their students achieving admissions success to TJ, AOS, and AET. The total number of 2022 students at TJ that they claimed was 50.

In the following year, Curie published their new, improved flagship TJ Prep course - as always, at a cost of about $5,000 per student. They promised preparation for the new Quant-Q exam - hard to see how, given that everyone who sees that exam, whether as a student or as a proctor, is required to sign an NDA. It should surprise no one that the Class of 2023 was 72.3% Asian and that Curie claimed 97 TJ admits in that class, and that the following year, the Class of 2024 was 73.5% Asian with 133 Curie admits.

Think about that for a moment - Curie cleared nearly half a million in 2023 and nearly three quarters of a million in 2024 in receipts just on the kids who were admitted to TJ, to say nothing of the families that invested the $5K and ended up at AOS, AET, or elsewhere.

When you pair those statistics with all of the stuff that's been confirmed on TJ Vents by named students who were on the Curie lists, you have to be an ostrich burying your head in the sand not to acknowledge the reality of the situation. Carry on denying if you must, but understand that you'll be perceived as unserious.

And it will almost certainly never be confirmed, because there's no reason that anyone is ever going to open a legitimate investigation into what happened. The admissions process has already been changed to severely limit the impact of boutique test prep. But to deny that reality is to spit on the brave TJ students (who were all South Asian, by the way) that were willing to admit to their colleagues what went on during that time period.

Do you know Asian parents sacrifice personal entertainment to pay for children’s studies? In Fairfax, tons of blacks and Latinos are middle classes and they are as rich as Asians, just because you do not care your children’s studies, now you want to manipulate the processes to take advantage of races?
Most of blacks and Latinos attending TJ are not poor at all, so your arguments is basically bs

1) You may have some idea of how Asian families behave on a broad scale, but you do not have a strong grasp about how groups other than yours behave. To say that other groups “do not care your children’s studies” is a semantically improper way to suggest that the only parents who value education are Asians, and that’s just flat out racist. Full stop.

2) Under the previous admissions process, your statement about most “Blacks and Latinos attending TJ are not poor at all” would have been true, if for no other reason that it was virtually impossible for economically disadvantaged students of ANY race to be admitted to TJ - in large part because of boutique test prep. Under the new process, many of the Black and Latino families at TJ do in fact belong in the economically disadvantaged category.

This is also a good time to remember that poor Asian students were the single largest demographic beneficiary of the new admissions process for c/o 2025.

3) To claim that Black and Latino families in Northern Virginia are “just as rich as Asians” is cataclysmically incorrect. By FAR the wealthiest demographic in the area is South Asians and it is therefore no surprise that the old, exam-dependent process favored that group most of all - at the expense of every other group (including, importantly, East and Southeast Asians, whose numbers have plummeted since the 90s and early 2000s). That’s not something you’d know unless you were intimately familiar with TJ, but it’s been a fairly obvious trend in recent years.

What’s wild is that the South Asian cohort has co-opted the East and Southeast Asian cohort in this holy war against equity when the latter group has been the most impacted by recent admissions trends.

Asians are not stupid at all, and they now know how to deal with new system, No matter what you argue, next year, it is guaranteed that most of admissions are provided to asians again. let's seat and watch what you guys will be crying next year. complaining again the new system? lol

What point were you even trying to make here? There isn’t going to be a new system.

That's what Havad said when they were sued.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The insistence with which folks deny reality in this Curie matter just shows how devastating it is to their case. All of the surrounding evidence points to how important the boutique test prep industry is to securing favorable admissions outcomes for Asian and specifically South Asian families.

For 15 years the percentage of Asian students in incoming freshmen classes increased, steadily and consistently, until the first set of changes to the admissions process came for the Class of 2022. That's when the new, supposedly "unpreppable" Quant-Q was introduced into the equation.

The Class of 2021 saw a record 74.9% of offers extended to Asian students, with an additional 6% extended to multi-racial students - who at TJ, are nearly exclusively white/Asian. The new exam suite, developed and deployed at great expense, resulted in a drop for the first time in recent history to 65.2% of offers extended to Asian students. <b> There can be no doubt that the change in exams was directly responsible for the lack of success of Asian students for the Class of 2022. </b> For the first time during that year, Curie published their infamous list of first and last names on Facebook of their students achieving admissions success to TJ, AOS, and AET. The total number of 2022 students at TJ that they claimed was 50.

In the following year, Curie published their new, improved flagship TJ Prep course - as always, at a cost of about $5,000 per student. They promised preparation for the new Quant-Q exam - hard to see how, given that everyone who sees that exam, whether as a student or as a proctor, is required to sign an NDA. It should surprise no one that the Class of 2023 was 72.3% Asian and that Curie claimed 97 TJ admits in that class, and that the following year, the Class of 2024 was 73.5% Asian with 133 Curie admits.

Think about that for a moment - Curie cleared nearly half a million in 2023 and nearly three quarters of a million in 2024 in receipts just on the kids who were admitted to TJ, to say nothing of the families that invested the $5K and ended up at AOS, AET, or elsewhere.

When you pair those statistics with all of the stuff that's been confirmed on TJ Vents by named students who were on the Curie lists, you have to be an ostrich burying your head in the sand not to acknowledge the reality of the situation. Carry on denying if you must, but understand that you'll be perceived as unserious.

And it will almost certainly never be confirmed, because there's no reason that anyone is ever going to open a legitimate investigation into what happened. The admissions process has already been changed to severely limit the impact of boutique test prep. But to deny that reality is to spit on the brave TJ students (who were all South Asian, by the way) that were willing to admit to their colleagues what went on during that time period.

Do you know Asian parents sacrifice personal entertainment to pay for children’s studies? In Fairfax, tons of blacks and Latinos are middle classes and they are as rich as Asians, just because you do not care your children’s studies, now you want to manipulate the processes to take advantage of races?
Most of blacks and Latinos attending TJ are not poor at all, so your arguments is basically bs

1) You may have some idea of how Asian families behave on a broad scale, but you do not have a strong grasp about how groups other than yours behave. To say that other groups “do not care your children’s studies” is a semantically improper way to suggest that the only parents who value education are Asians, and that’s just flat out racist. Full stop.

2) Under the previous admissions process, your statement about most “Blacks and Latinos attending TJ are not poor at all” would have been true, if for no other reason that it was virtually impossible for economically disadvantaged students of ANY race to be admitted to TJ - in large part because of boutique test prep. Under the new process, many of the Black and Latino families at TJ do in fact belong in the economically disadvantaged category.

This is also a good time to remember that poor Asian students were the single largest demographic beneficiary of the new admissions process for c/o 2025.

3) To claim that Black and Latino families in Northern Virginia are “just as rich as Asians” is cataclysmically incorrect. By FAR the wealthiest demographic in the area is South Asians and it is therefore no surprise that the old, exam-dependent process favored that group most of all - at the expense of every other group (including, importantly, East and Southeast Asians, whose numbers have plummeted since the 90s and early 2000s). That’s not something you’d know unless you were intimately familiar with TJ, but it’s been a fairly obvious trend in recent years.

What’s wild is that the South Asian cohort has co-opted the East and Southeast Asian cohort in this holy war against equity when the latter group has been the most impacted by recent admissions trends.

Asians are not stupid at all, and they now know how to deal with new system, No matter what you argue, next year, it is guaranteed that most of admissions are provided to asians again. let's seat and watch what you guys will be crying next year. complaining again the new system? lol

What point were you even trying to make here? There isn’t going to be a new system.

That's what Havad said when they were sued.

And it’s what FCPS said when they were sued. And there have now been three full classes selected and seated by the new system in the interim.

The only way you get a new system that actually changes the dynamic is if a new School Board is elected that is favorable to a new system. And when conspiracy theorists and wife beaters are the best that the Fairfax GOP can come up with, that seems unlikely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Establishing an admissions system which indirectly discriminates against asians (see page 39, paragraph 3 of the SCOTUS AA ruling). There is now a new basis for more lawsuits.

Asians are not discriminated against in TJ admissions. They have the highest acceptance rate and highest representation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Establishing an admissions system which indirectly discriminates against asians (see page 39, paragraph 3 of the SCOTUS AA ruling). There is now a new basis for more lawsuits.

Asians are not discriminated against in TJ admissions. They have the highest acceptance rate and highest representation.

So you do not understand how the current Supreme Court thinks about equal protection? If they believe there was a deliberate, racially motivated effort to reduce the percentage of Asian kids at a school, they may well declare the system contrary to the Constitution, regardless of whether Asians are still statistically “over-represented.”

I suspect you do know this, but believe that you’ll convince people otherwise if you just copy and paste often enough.