Fairfax Murder

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Anonymous wrote:I maintain that if the husband stabbed the wife and the second guy didn’t, it would be super obvious from the blood evidence.

this among other reasons is why the case is not closed. The case remains open as the investigation continues. If the evidence showed the husband and au pair in the clear the case would be closed. It is very much open.

Something off with the 13 mins between the first call and 2nd to 911 from the au pair. She obviously knew something was concerning enough to call the first time. What happened I those 13 mins? Clean up, moved bodies, gas lighting?

if someone stabbed your wife and you walked in on it, after you shot the person you claim is stabbing you do not wait 13 minutes to let your wife die, unless you are the killer. It's clear to me that the 13 minute call lapse is one of the most damning pieces of evidence. Clearly it's totally suspect behavior and I believe the husband and the au pair killed both Christine, and Joe.

I think you’re wrong. Suppose the first call is when the guy arrives, or the au pair hears arguing or whatever. Maybe she hangs up because she’s not sure or the wife tells her to. Maybe she runs to hide. Who knows? But your conclusion isn’t supported by the gap in the calls.

If you watched the video with the police chief he seems to differ with your opinion. It is not normal to just hang up and call 13 minutes later after you watched your wife being stabbed. I think the husband is totally guilty and the call is just one part of why I think this.

Usually if you call and hang up, they call back. If you don’t answer, they come to your door. Did this not happen in this case?

As stated many times, the cell phone call could not be traced. Maybe she had location services turned off. But did they try to call her back?

There has been no news or comment about that. Only reported was a hang up call with no speaking, then a 13 minute gap and a call where the Au Pair calls, her voice, saying something then the husband demands the phone and says he shot Ryan, using his name, that he found him stabbing his wife. Thats all we heard in any reports about the calls. Seems bad for the husband and Au Pair, but thats my opinion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi everybody. I just stumbled upon this page looking up this case. I used to work with Joe doing manual labor and admittedly I did not know him well. We worked together about 3 months and he was a scary dude. He was definitely mentally unstable and would throw adult temper tantrums if a job didn't go his way, and threaten anybody who disagreed with him. He seemed stuck in his childhood days...always talking about pot, fights he got in, etc. I stayed away... but when I heard this story I was not shocked at all that this is how he went out.

I love how everybody just glossed over this guy's post because it doesn't fit your narrative.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi everybody. I just stumbled upon this page looking up this case. I used to work with Joe doing manual labor and admittedly I did not know him well. We worked together about 3 months and he was a scary dude. He was definitely mentally unstable and would throw adult temper tantrums if a job didn't go his way, and threaten anybody who disagreed with him. He seemed stuck in his childhood days...always talking about pot, fights he got in, etc. I stayed away... but when I heard this story I was not shocked at all that this is how he went out.

I love how everybody just glossed over this guy's post because it doesn't fit your narrative.

I think the nanny leaving and coming back and the discussion about the 13 minutes between 911 calls is the hot topic right now

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hi everybody. I just stumbled upon this page looking up this case. I used to work with Joe doing manual labor and admittedly I did not know him well. We worked together about 3 months and he was a scary dude. He was definitely mentally unstable and would throw adult temper tantrums if a job didn't go his way, and threaten anybody who disagreed with him. He seemed stuck in his childhood days...always talking about pot, fights he got in, etc. I stayed away... but when I heard this story I was not shocked at all that this is how he went out.

I love how everybody just glossed over this guy's post because it doesn't fit your narrative.

We have no idea if this is true. It doesn’t align with a single thing posted about Joe on here, nextdoor, Reddit, Facebook, etc. Some dude who did manual labor with him “stumbled” upon DCUM months after the murder? Questionable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hi everybody. I just stumbled upon this page looking up this case. I used to work with Joe doing manual labor and admittedly I did not know him well. We worked together about 3 months and he was a scary dude. He was definitely mentally unstable and would throw adult temper tantrums if a job didn't go his way, and threaten anybody who disagreed with him. He seemed stuck in his childhood days...always talking about pot, fights he got in, etc. I stayed away... but when I heard this story I was not shocked at all that this is how he went out.

I love how everybody just glossed over this guy's post because it doesn't fit your narrative.

+1.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hi everybody. I just stumbled upon this page looking up this case. I used to work with Joe doing manual labor and admittedly I did not know him well. We worked together about 3 months and he was a scary dude. He was definitely mentally unstable and would throw adult temper tantrums if a job didn't go his way, and threaten anybody who disagreed with him. He seemed stuck in his childhood days...always talking about pot, fights he got in, etc. I stayed away... but when I heard this story I was not shocked at all that this is how he went out.

I love how everybody just glossed over this guy's post because it doesn't fit your narrative.

We have no idea if this is true. It doesn’t align with a single thing posted about Joe on here, nextdoor, Reddit, Facebook, etc. Some dude who did manual labor with him “stumbled” upon DCUM months after the murder? Questionable.

Joe had no criminal record, he didn't get into fights. The poster who said he didn't know him well said he talked about getting in fights. He didn't get into fights, his lack of criminal records proves this not accurate. Who even calls their work manual labor. Which Joe had very few labor jobs. Questionable for sure. It doesn't at all line up with who Joe was supposed to be. Now people pop on the forum to push this one tiny post or any post that tries to discredit him as a person. None of that makes him a good candidate for randomly killing a woman for no reason. This was a crime a passion, so that means you are a violent person who likes to kill women, or you killed this woman because you had some passionate reason to do so. Acts like this don't usually happen from a 39 yr old that has never assaulted or stalked a woman in their life times. Smoking pot doesn't make you a killer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: I know the family. There is nothing online about the husband’s professional career, because he has a high profile security job with the federal government.

Christine was the nicest and most generous person I have ever met, and I am deeply sad and shocked with this tragedy.

He does, and she was.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hi everybody. I just stumbled upon this page looking up this case. I used to work with Joe doing manual labor and admittedly I did not know him well. We worked together about 3 months and he was a scary dude. He was definitely mentally unstable and would throw adult temper tantrums if a job didn't go his way, and threaten anybody who disagreed with him. He seemed stuck in his childhood days...always talking about pot, fights he got in, etc. I stayed away... but when I heard this story I was not shocked at all that this is how he went out.

I love how everybody just glossed over this guy's post because it doesn't fit your narrative.

Well, I've asked him about Joe's age. If he was like 21, things could have changed a lot since then. But if this was 1-2 years ago -- that's concerning. The fact that he changed so many jobs makes me wonder if he was just hired to do some repair work in their home.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hi everybody. I just stumbled upon this page looking up this case. I used to work with Joe doing manual labor and admittedly I did not know him well. We worked together about 3 months and he was a scary dude. He was definitely mentally unstable and would throw adult temper tantrums if a job didn't go his way, and threaten anybody who disagreed with him. He seemed stuck in his childhood days...always talking about pot, fights he got in, etc. I stayed away... but when I heard this story I was not shocked at all that this is how he went out.

I love how everybody just glossed over this guy's post because it doesn't fit your narrative.

I think the nanny leaving and coming back and the discussion about the 13 minutes between 911 calls is the hot topic right now

I don’t understand why this doesn’t fit what the nanny and husband said. The first call is the beginning of the incident and then it gets disconnected for whatever reason (running for safety, who knows) and then the second call is when it’s all over.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hi everybody. I just stumbled upon this page looking up this case. I used to work with Joe doing manual labor and admittedly I did not know him well. We worked together about 3 months and he was a scary dude. He was definitely mentally unstable and would throw adult temper tantrums if a job didn't go his way, and threaten anybody who disagreed with him. He seemed stuck in his childhood days...always talking about pot, fights he got in, etc. I stayed away... but when I heard this story I was not shocked at all that this is how he went out.

I love how everybody just glossed over this guy's post because it doesn't fit your narrative.

Well, I've asked him about Joe's age. If he was like 21, things could have changed a lot since then. But if this was 1-2 years ago -- that's concerning. The fact that he changed so many jobs makes me wonder if he was just hired to do some repair work in their home.

No dude. Come on. Repair work? They met on the kink dating site.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hi everybody. I just stumbled upon this page looking up this case. I used to work with Joe doing manual labor and admittedly I did not know him well. We worked together about 3 months and he was a scary dude. He was definitely mentally unstable and would throw adult temper tantrums if a job didn't go his way, and threaten anybody who disagreed with him. He seemed stuck in his childhood days...always talking about pot, fights he got in, etc. I stayed away... but when I heard this story I was not shocked at all that this is how he went out.

I love how everybody just glossed over this guy's post because it doesn't fit your narrative.

I think the nanny leaving and coming back and the discussion about the 13 minutes between 911 calls is the hot topic right now

I don’t understand why this doesn’t fit what the nanny and husband said. The first call is the beginning of the incident and then it gets disconnected for whatever reason (running for safety, who knows) and then the second call is when it’s all over.

it took the husband 13 minutes to shoot the man stabbing his wife?

[Anonymous]

I also wonder if he was hired to do some repair work at their home? Maybe he became obsessed with either the au pair or Christine? It could explain how they all knew one another.

These are all just guesses. None of us have a clue what really happened and we may never find out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I also wonder if he was hired to do some repair work at their home? Maybe he became obsessed with either the au pair or Christine? It could explain how they all knew one another.

These are all just guesses. None of us have a clue what really happened and we may never find out.

people that do have inside information know that JR did not do any home repair work ever. They also know that the couple were known to JR by a social kink website. That has been established. So the things you are saying make zero sense at all. Read over the forum, this is ridiculous.

Stop blaming the victim for whatever odd reason you have. JR and Christine were both victims here.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi everybody. I just stumbled upon this page looking up this case. I used to work with Joe doing manual labor and admittedly I did not know him well. We worked together about 3 months and he was a scary dude. He was definitely mentally unstable and would throw adult temper tantrums if a job didn't go his way, and threaten anybody who disagreed with him. He seemed stuck in his childhood days...always talking about pot, fights he got in, etc. I stayed away... but when I heard this story I was not shocked at all that this is how he went out.

I love how everybody just glossed over this guy's post because it doesn't fit your narrative.

I think the nanny leaving and coming back and the discussion about the 13 minutes between 911 calls is the hot topic right now

I don’t understand why this doesn’t fit what the nanny and husband said. The first call is the beginning of the incident and then it gets disconnected for whatever reason (running for safety, who knows) and then the second call is when it’s all over.

it took the husband 13 minutes to shoot the man stabbing his wife?

it took 13 minutes to hope Christine was past surviving, and to clean up a little after killing two people. They didn't need to change their clothes they can say they were trying to save her or whatever, they just needed to make sure Joe was dead, and likely thought she was dead also before calling 911. It sure doesn't take 13 minutes to shoot someone and then dial 911.

[Anonymous]

people that do have inside information know that JR did not do any home repair work ever. They also know that the couple were known to JR by a social kink website. That has been established. So the things you are saying make zero sense at all. Read over the forum, this is ridiculous.

Stop blaming the victim for whatever odd reason you have. JR and Christine were both victims here.

Established by what? Its all word of mouth. Any thing that came from the police was within 24 hours so who knows if that's even accurate. Literally everything here is speculative. People can have their theories and some may have known one of the parties... great, but don't say anything had been established, or is a fact because besides anyone directly involved we all simply don't know